Menus and widgets that disappears when a lot of windows are opened

Windows Vista is said to use a lot of system RAM, in regard of this I wish
to make a question...
Practically, as I have seen, despite the SuperPrefetch and the mechanisms
concern the memory utilization, the Shell Memory is limited.
To be more precise, I have 2gb of RAM, then, I open about 50 istances of
Windows Explorer, the used RAM is about 700mb.
Now, for example I right click on a file, but there aren't many options...
(such as "open", "edit", "send to")... like there isn't enough memory (but I
still have 1300mb free memory).
Furthermore, I can't open new istances or new programs, and many widgets
(textboxes, menus, buttons, windows and tabs) disappear...
How can I modify this behavior and to do so that I can open many windows
contemporarily?

Thanks in advance,
Carmine

I take it that you are testing the limitations of Vista, and nothing more.
In over 15 years of using Windows, I can not see why anyone would need 50
instances of explorer open simultaneously. You can get anything to fail if
you try hard enough.

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)



"Carmine [www.thetotalsite.it]" <> wrote in message
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> Windows Vista is said to use a lot of system RAM, in regard of this I wish
> to make a question...
> Practically, as I have seen, despite the SuperPrefetch and the mechanisms
> concern the memory utilization, the Shell Memory is limited.
> To be more precise, I have 2gb of RAM, then, I open about 50 istances of
> Windows Explorer, the used RAM is about 700mb.
> Now, for example I right click on a file, but there aren't many options...
> (such as "open", "edit", "send to")... like there isn't enough memory (but
> I still have 1300mb free memory).
> Furthermore, I can't open new istances or new programs, and many widgets
> (textboxes, menus, buttons, windows and tabs) disappear...
> How can I modify this behavior and to do so that I can open many windows
> contemporarily?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Carmine

"Richard Urban" <> ha scritto nel
messaggio news:...
>I take it that you are testing the limitations of Vista, and nothing more.
>In over 15 years of using Windows, I can not see why anyone would need 50
>instances of explorer open simultaneously. You can get anything to fail if
>you try hard enough.

The 50 istances of windows explorer were just an example.
The problem occurs even if I open 50-60 tabs in internet explorer and some
other programs, or if I open many various programs.
So, the limit isn't in the RAM, but in the windows shell, is it?
There isn't a option to reserve more memory to the windows shell?

Bye,
Carmine

50 to 60 tabs? Geez
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Carmine [www.thetotalsite.it]" <> wrote in message
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> "Richard Urban" <> ha scritto nel
> messaggio news:...
>>I take it that you are testing the limitations of Vista, and nothing more.
>>In over 15 years of using Windows, I can not see why anyone would need 50
>>instances of explorer open simultaneously. You can get anything to fail if
>>you try hard enough.
>
> The 50 istances of windows explorer were just an example.
> The problem occurs even if I open 50-60 tabs in internet explorer and some
> other programs, or if I open many various programs.
> So, the limit isn't in the RAM, but in the windows shell, is it?
> There isn't a option to reserve more memory to the windows shell?
>
> Bye,
> Carmine

The only way to know what devices limits you are reaching is to either
reduce the amount of RAM and see if you can still open windows or tabs
to the extreams you previously did. Then you can try adding more RAM(up
to 4GB) and see if the problem disapears. Either way you are definitly
overtaxing your system. Unless you are running an i680 chip or P35 or
975 chip and a quad core CPU and a decent video card I'm surprised you
got to 50. Using windows normaly I try not to open more then 8~10
instances of explorer and no more then 6~7 tabs.


--
joel406

"Carmine [www.thetotalsite.it]" <> wrote in message
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> "Richard Urban" <> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:...
>>I take it that you are testing the limitations of Vista, and nothing more. In over 15 years
>>of using Windows, I can not see why anyone would need 50 instances of explorer open
>>simultaneously. You can get anything to fail if you try hard enough.
>
> The 50 istances of windows explorer were just an example.
> The problem occurs even if I open 50-60 tabs in internet explorer and some other programs, or
> if I open many various programs.
> So, the limit isn't in the RAM, but in the windows shell, is it?
> There isn't a option to reserve more memory to the windows shell?

50 Windows Explorer windows... 50-60 IE tabs..... why?


-Michael

As I said, you can force anything to fail. What is your point? OK you were
successful. Your computer fails. Now start using it in a sane and sensible
way.

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)



"Carmine [www.thetotalsite.it]" <> wrote in message
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> "Richard Urban" <> ha scritto nel
> messaggio news:...
>>I take it that you are testing the limitations of Vista, and nothing more.
>>In over 15 years of using Windows, I can not see why anyone would need 50
>>instances of explorer open simultaneously. You can get anything to fail if
>>you try hard enough.
>
> The 50 istances of windows explorer were just an example.
> The problem occurs even if I open 50-60 tabs in internet explorer and some
> other programs, or if I open many various programs.
> So, the limit isn't in the RAM, but in the windows shell, is it?
> There isn't a option to reserve more memory to the windows shell?
>
> Bye,
> Carmine

Or give it to me, I will put it to good use.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
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> As I said, you can force anything to fail. What is your point? OK you were
> successful. Your computer fails. Now start using it in a sane and sensible
> way.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
>
>
> "Carmine [www.thetotalsite.it]" <> wrote in message
> news:3887D494-5C05-4873-93FE-...
>> "Richard Urban" <> ha scritto nel
>> messaggio news:...
>>>I take it that you are testing the limitations of Vista, and nothing
>>>more. In over 15 years of using Windows, I can not see why anyone would
>>>need 50 instances of explorer open simultaneously. You can get anything
>>>to fail if you try hard enough.
>>
>> The 50 istances of windows explorer were just an example.
>> The problem occurs even if I open 50-60 tabs in internet explorer and
>> some other programs, or if I open many various programs.
>> So, the limit isn't in the RAM, but in the windows shell, is it?
>> There isn't a option to reserve more memory to the windows shell?
>>
>> Bye,
>> Carmine
>

"Richard Urban" <> ha scritto nel
messaggio news:%...
> As I said, you can force anything to fail. What is your point? OK you were
> successful. Your computer fails. Now start using it in a sane and sensible
> way.

Yes, but I think this is quite strange.
For example, now I have got:
Photoshop CS, with a 6000x4800 file
Premiere Elements 3.0, which use around 700mb of memory
Visual Studio 2005 Professional, with 150mb used
Alcohol 120%
Audiograbber
Windows Live Writer
Publisher, Word and OneNote 2007
Windows Media Player
Windows Movie Maker
L&H Power Translator
Internet Explorer with 7 tabs
Windows Mail
DeepBurner
Avast! 4
GetRight
Windows Live Messenger
(and many other daemons in background).

The system, obviously, uses now 1,95gb of memory; and 2,5gb of swap file.
However, it works without problems.
Instead, when I open 50 tabs of IE, the system begin to give errors; and,
for example, when I right click the contextual menu doesn't appear, some
widgets vanish, etc...
It's curious, IMHO.

Bye,

"Carmine [www.thetotalsite.it]" <> wrote in message
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> "Richard Urban" <> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:%...
>> As I said, you can force anything to fail. What is your point? OK you were successful. Your
>> computer fails. Now start using it in a sane and sensible way.
>
> Yes, but I think this is quite strange.
> For example, now I have got:
> Photoshop CS, with a 6000x4800 file
> Premiere Elements 3.0, which use around 700mb of memory
> Visual Studio 2005 Professional, with 150mb used
> Alcohol 120%
> Audiograbber
> Windows Live Writer
> Publisher, Word and OneNote 2007
> Windows Media Player
> Windows Movie Maker
> L&H Power Translator
> Internet Explorer with 7 tabs
> Windows Mail
> DeepBurner
> Avast! 4
> GetRight
> Windows Live Messenger
> (and many other daemons in background).
>
> The system, obviously, uses now 1,95gb of memory; and 2,5gb of swap file.
> However, it works without problems.
> Instead, when I open 50 tabs of IE, the system begin to give errors; and, for example, when I
> right click the contextual menu doesn't appear, some widgets vanish, etc...

> It's curious, IMHO.

The only curious thing is why you'd even want to open 50 IE tabs
or 50 Explorer windows. The fact that you can open that many,
says something about Vista's overall stability and performance,
and your machine itself, IMO.


-Michael