Message List text size - any way to enlarge or make less faint?

I though I posted this before but maybe not. Apologies if I did.
Is there any way of getting WLM to display the Message List either larger or
with a darker font? When messages have been read its insanely faint. I
work with my brightness often turned way down so perhaps mine is worst than
most. Still this seems to be a very much requested issue. I can adjust the
Message body fine by zooming with Control and the mousewheel (as long as the
focus is on the message of course or the message is displayed in its own
window). But it sure would be great to be able to adjust the readability of
the Message List.

Hi, Richard.

Yes, this did get posted twice. See the responses to the other one.

RC
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San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
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"Richard Z" <> wrote in message
news:e163D9H#...
> I though I posted this before but maybe not. Apologies if I did.
> Is there any way of getting WLM to display the Message List either larger
> or with a darker font? When messages have been read its insanely faint.
> I work with my brightness often turned way down so perhaps mine is worst
> than most. Still this seems to be a very much requested issue. I can
> adjust the Message body fine by zooming with Control and the mousewheel
> (as long as the focus is on the message of course or the message is
> displayed in its own window). But it sure would be great to be able to
> adjust the readability of the Message List.

>> I though I posted this before but maybe not. Apologies if I did.
>> Is there any way of getting WLM to display the Message List either larger
>> or
>> with a darker font? When messages have been read its insanely faint. I
>> work with my brightness often turned way down so perhaps mine is worst
>> than
>> most. Still this seems to be a very much requested issue. I can adjust
>> the
>> Message body fine by zooming with Control and the mousewheel (as long as
>> the
>> focus is on the message of course or the message is displayed in its own
>> window). But it sure would be great to be able to adjust the readability
>> of
>> the Message List.

> Which OS?

XP Pro SP3

> The font colour of the Message List (in One-line view) can be changed for
> Read messages.

I can't remember how to get to that....I remember seeing Auto, 1 line or 2
line view options. arghhhh

> In Vista, it is actually the color of the Windows 'Disabled Item' Font
> ('Advanced Appearance' options in Windows 'Display Properties') that
> corresponds to the color of 'Read' messages in WLMail (in One-line view).
> (Windows Vista Home Premium SP2 with IE7 & Windows Live Mail 2009
> 14.0.8064.0206)

Must be different for XP.

Hi, Richard.

Peter and I are talking about the same thing, but I haven't run WinXP in
about 3 years so I've forgotten the details of how to get to the Display
Properties in XP. Vista is different - and Win7 is more different.

> I can't remember how to get to that....I remember seeing Auto, 1 line or 2
> line view options. arghhhh

No, this 1-line or 2-line setting is in WLM. (View | Layout | Message List)
But the "Disabled Item" font setting that Peter is talking about is NOT in
WLM at all! It is in WINDOWS Display Properties. You know, where you set
the colors of the borders around the window that has focus.

That's why I said I have to use trial and error to find out which item in
Windows' Display Properties corresponds with which display element in WLM.
Peter has identified at least this one item:
>> In Vista, it is actually the color of the Windows 'Disabled Item' Font
>> ('Advanced Appearance' options in Windows 'Display Properties') that
>> corresponds to the color of 'Read' messages in WLMail (in One-line view).

In other words, to change the color of "Read" messages INSIDE WLM, you must
adjust something OUTSIDE WLM - in Windows Display Properties.

That's what makes this so hard to explain - and to understand - and to do.
WLM responds to outside forces for these settings.

But it's not new. We always had to do it this way with OE, too. But we
forget.

> Must be different for XP.

Yep. Different. But similar. Only the details have changed. The general
pattern is the same.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

"Richard Z" <> wrote in message
news:#AakyWO#...
>>> I though I posted this before but maybe not. Apologies if I did.
>>> Is there any way of getting WLM to display the Message List either
>>> larger or
>>> with a darker font? When messages have been read its insanely faint. I
>>> work with my brightness often turned way down so perhaps mine is worst
>>> than
>>> most. Still this seems to be a very much requested issue. I can adjust
>>> the
>>> Message body fine by zooming with Control and the mousewheel (as long as
>>> the
>>> focus is on the message of course or the message is displayed in its own
>>> window). But it sure would be great to be able to adjust the
>>> readability of
>>> the Message List.
>
>> Which OS?
>
> XP Pro SP3
>
>> The font colour of the Message List (in One-line view) can be changed for
>> Read messages.
>
> I can't remember how to get to that....I remember seeing Auto, 1 line or 2
> line view options. arghhhh
>
>> In Vista, it is actually the color of the Windows 'Disabled Item' Font
>> ('Advanced Appearance' options in Windows 'Display Properties') that
>> corresponds to the color of 'Read' messages in WLMail (in One-line view).
>> (Windows Vista Home Premium SP2 with IE7 & Windows Live Mail 2009
>> 14.0.8064.0206)
>
> Must be different for XP.

> Peter and I are talking about the same thing, but I haven't run WinXP in
> about 3 years so I've forgotten the details of how to get to the Display
> Properties in XP. Vista is different - and Win7 is more different.
>
>> I can't remember how to get to that....I remember seeing Auto, 1 line or
>> 2 line view options. arghhhh
>
> No, this 1-line or 2-line setting is in WLM. (View | Layout | Message
> List)

Thank you. Layout....how obvious could it be?

> But the "Disabled Item" font setting that Peter is talking about is NOT in
> WLM at all! It is in WINDOWS Display Properties. You know, where you set
> the colors of the borders around the window that has focus.

Right. Display, Appearance, Advanced, Item.
Nothing there for Disabled Items or anything similar. These are the
possibilities in that they have font adjustment.
Active Title Bar
Icon
Inactive Title Bar
Menu
Message Box
Palette Title
Selected Items
Tooltip

If anyone has any clue as to which one might control the Message List font
(if any) please speak up!

Now wouldn't it be pleasant if everyone played nice and agreed on the
standard text size adjustment shortcut most commonly used:
Control + Mousewheel.
So wherever you have the focus, it works there. Life could be so easy if
everyone just got along.

> That's why I said I have to use trial and error to find out which item in
> Windows' Display Properties corresponds with which display element in WLM.
> Peter has identified at least this one item:

>>> In Vista, it is actually the color of the Windows 'Disabled Item' Font
>>> ('Advanced Appearance' options in Windows 'Display Properties') that
>>> corresponds to the color of 'Read' messages in WLMail (in One-line
>>> view).
>
> In other words, to change the color of "Read" messages INSIDE WLM, you
> must adjust something OUTSIDE WLM - in Windows Display Properties.
>
> That's what makes this so hard to explain - and to understand - and to do.
> WLM responds to outside forces for these settings.
>
> But it's not new. We always had to do it this way with OE, too. But we
> forget.
>
>> Must be different for XP.
>
> Yep. Different. But similar. Only the details have changed. The
> general pattern is the same.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
>
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100
>
> "Richard Z" <> wrote in message
> news:#AakyWO#...
>>>> I though I posted this before but maybe not. Apologies if I did.
>>>> Is there any way of getting WLM to display the Message List either
>>>> larger or
>>>> with a darker font? When messages have been read its insanely faint.
>>>> I
>>>> work with my brightness often turned way down so perhaps mine is worst
>>>> than
>>>> most. Still this seems to be a very much requested issue. I can
>>>> adjust the
>>>> Message body fine by zooming with Control and the mousewheel (as long
>>>> as the
>>>> focus is on the message of course or the message is displayed in its
>>>> own
>>>> window). But it sure would be great to be able to adjust the
>>>> readability of
>>>> the Message List.
>>
>>> Which OS?
>>
>> XP Pro SP3
>>
>>> The font colour of the Message List (in One-line view) can be changed
>>> for Read messages.
>>
>> I can't remember how to get to that....I remember seeing Auto, 1 line or
>> 2 line view options. arghhhh
>>
>>> In Vista, it is actually the color of the Windows 'Disabled Item' Font
>>> ('Advanced Appearance' options in Windows 'Display Properties') that
>>> corresponds to the color of 'Read' messages in WLMail (in One-line
>>> view).
>>> (Windows Vista Home Premium SP2 with IE7 & Windows Live Mail 2009
>>> 14.0.8064.0206)
>>
>> Must be different for XP.
>

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The 'Disabled Items' is available in Vista and later..

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"Richard Z" <> wrote in message news:uY2BmtQ#...
>> Peter and I are talking about the same thing, but I haven't run WinXP in
>> about 3 years so I've forgotten the details of how to get to the Display
>> Properties in XP. Vista is different - and Win7 is more different.
>>
>>> I can't remember how to get to that....I remember seeing Auto, 1 line or
>>> 2 line view options. arghhhh
>>
>> No, this 1-line or 2-line setting is in WLM. (View | Layout | Message
>> List)
>
> Thank you. Layout....how obvious could it be?
>
>> But the "Disabled Item" font setting that Peter is talking about is NOT in
>> WLM at all! It is in WINDOWS Display Properties. You know, where you set
>> the colors of the borders around the window that has focus.
>
> Right. Display, Appearance, Advanced, Item.
> Nothing there for Disabled Items or anything similar. These are the
> possibilities in that they have font adjustment.
> Active Title Bar
> Icon
> Inactive Title Bar
> Menu
> Message Box
> Palette Title
> Selected Items
> Tooltip
>
> If anyone has any clue as to which one might control the Message List font
> (if any) please speak up!
>
> Now wouldn't it be pleasant if everyone played nice and agreed on the
> standard text size adjustment shortcut most commonly used:
> Control + Mousewheel.
> So wherever you have the focus, it works there. Life could be so easy if
> everyone just got along.
>
>> That's why I said I have to use trial and error to find out which item in
>> Windows' Display Properties corresponds with which display element in WLM.
>> Peter has identified at least this one item:
>
>>>> In Vista, it is actually the color of the Windows 'Disabled Item' Font
>>>> ('Advanced Appearance' options in Windows 'Display Properties') that
>>>> corresponds to the color of 'Read' messages in WLMail (in One-line
>>>> view).
>>
>> In other words, to change the color of "Read" messages INSIDE WLM, you
>> must adjust something OUTSIDE WLM - in Windows Display Properties.
>>
>> That's what makes this so hard to explain - and to understand - and to do.
>> WLM responds to outside forces for these settings.
>>
>> But it's not new. We always had to do it this way with OE, too. But we
>> forget.
>>
>>> Must be different for XP.
>>
>> Yep. Different. But similar. Only the details have changed. The
>> general pattern is the same.
>>
>> RC
>> --
>> R. C. White, CPA
>> San Marcos, TX
>>
>> Microsoft Windows MVP
>> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100
>>
>> "Richard Z" <> wrote in message
>> news:#AakyWO#...
>>>>> I though I posted this before but maybe not. Apologies if I did.
>>>>> Is there any way of getting WLM to display the Message List either
>>>>> larger or
>>>>> with a darker font? When messages have been read its insanely faint.
>>>>> I
>>>>> work with my brightness often turned way down so perhaps mine is worst
>>>>> than
>>>>> most. Still this seems to be a very much requested issue. I can
>>>>> adjust the
>>>>> Message body fine by zooming with Control and the mousewheel (as long
>>>>> as the
>>>>> focus is on the message of course or the message is displayed in its
>>>>> own
>>>>> window). But it sure would be great to be able to adjust the
>>>>> readability of
>>>>> the Message List.
>>>
>>>> Which OS?
>>>
>>> XP Pro SP3
>>>
>>>> The font colour of the Message List (in One-line view) can be changed
>>>> for Read messages.
>>>
>>> I can't remember how to get to that....I remember seeing Auto, 1 line or
>>> 2 line view options. arghhhh
>>>
>>>> In Vista, it is actually the color of the Windows 'Disabled Item' Font
>>>> ('Advanced Appearance' options in Windows 'Display Properties') that
>>>> corresponds to the color of 'Read' messages in WLMail (in One-line
>>>> view).
>>>> (Windows Vista Home Premium SP2 with IE7 & Windows Live Mail 2009
>>>> 14.0.8064.0206)
>>>
>>> Must be different for XP.
>>

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"R. C. White" <> wrote in message news:ODNKh$P#...
> Hi, Richard.
>
> Peter and I are talking about the same thing, but I haven't run WinXP in
> about 3 years so I've forgotten the details of how to get to the Display
> Properties in XP. Vista is different - and Win7 is more different.
>


This is where knowing shortcuts can be better than knowing the UI. <eg>
In all 3 OS (and in earlier ones too): Win-D, right-click, Properties.
Actually, in XP, I don't even need to use a mouse to do this:
Win-D, Menu, r ; )


FYI

Robert
---

Hi, Robert.

> This is where knowing shortcuts can be better than knowing the UI. <eg>

Until the shortcuts get changed. :^{

In Win7, <Win>+D clears the desktop. Right-click on the desktop brings up
the menu - but Properties is not on the menu. There's Personalize, instead.
But this is not your father's Oldsmobile! The options are different.
You'll see when you move up to Win7. :^}

RC
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San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

"Robert Aldwinckle" <> wrote in message
news:1F20F942-FFA8-4389-9CD5-...
>
>
> "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
> news:ODNKh$P#...
>> Hi, Richard.
>>
>> Peter and I are talking about the same thing, but I haven't run WinXP in
>> about 3 years so I've forgotten the details of how to get to the Display
>> Properties in XP. Vista is different - and Win7 is more different.
>>
>
>
> This is where knowing shortcuts can be better than knowing the UI. <eg>
> In all 3 OS (and in earlier ones too): Win-D, right-click, Properties.
> Actually, in XP, I don't even need to use a mouse to do this:
> Win-D, Menu, r ; )
>
>
> FYI
>
> Robert

Ditto on Vista..

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ms-mvp mail

"R. C. White" <> wrote in message news:e8S$zJb#...
> Hi, Robert.
>
>> This is where knowing shortcuts can be better than knowing the UI. <eg>
>
> Until the shortcuts get changed. :^{
>
> In Win7, <Win>+D clears the desktop. Right-click on the desktop brings up
> the menu - but Properties is not on the menu. There's Personalize, instead.
> But this is not your father's Oldsmobile! The options are different.
> You'll see when you move up to Win7. :^}
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
>
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100
>
> "Robert Aldwinckle" <> wrote in message
> news:1F20F942-FFA8-4389-9CD5-...
>>
>>
>> "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
>> news:ODNKh$P#...
>>> Hi, Richard.
>>>
>>> Peter and I are talking about the same thing, but I haven't run WinXP in
>>> about 3 years so I've forgotten the details of how to get to the Display
>>> Properties in XP. Vista is different - and Win7 is more different.
>>>
>>
>>
>> This is where knowing shortcuts can be better than knowing the UI. <eg>
>> In all 3 OS (and in earlier ones too): Win-D, right-click, Properties.
>> Actually, in XP, I don't even need to use a mouse to do this:
>> Win-D, Menu, r ; )
>>
>>
>> FYI
>>
>> Robert
>

"R. C. White" <> wrote in message news:e8S$zJb#...
> Hi, Robert.
>
>> This is where knowing shortcuts can be better than knowing the UI. <eg>
>
> Until the shortcuts get changed. :^{


Did you try it? Win-D, Menu, r Same shortcut in all OS.
Considering what short shrift usability compatibility is given
in both Vista and W7 (especially) that seems amazing!
In Vista it gets me closer to the equivalent of the Appearance tab
--just a Tab press away. In W7, it got me there (or as close as
it seems I can get) right away. ; )


Robert
---


>
> In Win7, <Win>+D clears the desktop. Right-click on the desktop brings up the menu - but Properties is not on the menu. There's
> Personalize, instead. But this is not your father's Oldsmobile! The options are different. You'll see when you move up to Win7.
> :^}
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
>
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100
>
> "Robert Aldwinckle" <> wrote in message news:1F20F942-FFA8-4389-9CD5-...
>>
>>
>> "R. C. White" <> wrote in message news:ODNKh$P#...
>>> Hi, Richard.
>>>
>>> Peter and I are talking about the same thing, but I haven't run WinXP in
>>> about 3 years so I've forgotten the details of how to get to the Display
>>> Properties in XP. Vista is different - and Win7 is more different.
>>>
>>
>>
>> This is where knowing shortcuts can be better than knowing the UI. <eg>
>> In all 3 OS (and in earlier ones too): Win-D, right-click, Properties.
>> Actually, in XP, I don't even need to use a mouse to do this:
>> Win-D, Menu, r ; )
>>
>>
>> FYI
>>
>> Robert
>