MessengerSays: Windows Live Messenger Protocol Handler

There is a new post on the Messenger blog:
http://messengersays.spaces.live.com...9E!22980.entry

Please make comments about this blog post in this thread.

Hi,

I really wish you could add a message to be said with the chat method. Like:
msnim:chat?contact=&message=Hello!

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
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<MessengerSays> wrote in message news:...
> There is a new post on the Messenger blog:
> http://messengersays.spaces.live.com...9E!22980.entry
>
> Please make comments about this blog post in this thread.
>

It seems that these protocols are not worked in Firefox and Opera. Is it a bug?
--
Franklin


"MessengerSays" wrote:

> There is a new post on the Messenger blog:
> http://messengersays.spaces.live.com...9E!22980.entry
>
> Please make comments about this blog post in this thread.
>
>
>

Hi Franklin,

I haven't tried it in Opera, but FireFox handles its own protocol handlers and ignores the
Windows ones.

I don't really consider it a bug, but more a suggestion. That or you might consider it a
suggestion for either FireFox or Opera to integrate with the protocol handlers in Windows as
opposed to just having their own.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
--

"Franklin Tse" <> wrote in message
news:61F31932-668E-4D47-A72D-...
> It seems that these protocols are not worked in Firefox and Opera. Is it a bug?
> --
> Franklin
>
>
> "MessengerSays" wrote:
>
>> There is a new post on the Messenger blog:
>> http://messengersays.spaces.live.com...9E!22980.entry
>>
>> Please make comments about this blog post in this thread.
>>
>>
>>

Great Suggestion!

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I really wish you could add a message to be said with the chat method. Like:
> msnim:chat?contact=&message=Hello!
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> --
>
> <MessengerSays> wrote in message news:...
> > There is a new post on the Messenger blog:
> > http://messengersays.spaces.live.com...9E!22980.entry
> >
> > Please make comments about this blog post in this thread.
> >
>
>

Actually, WLM's protocol is unregistered in the Operating system. That's why
Firefox and Opera can handle it.
--
Franklin


"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

> Hi Franklin,
>
> I haven't tried it in Opera, but FireFox handles its own protocol handlers and ignores the
> Windows ones.
>
> I don't really consider it a bug, but more a suggestion. That or you might consider it a
> suggestion for either FireFox or Opera to integrate with the protocol handlers in Windows as
> opposed to just having their own.
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> --
>
> "Franklin Tse" <> wrote in message
> news:61F31932-668E-4D47-A72D-...
> > It seems that these protocols are not worked in Firefox and Opera. Is it a bug?
> > --
> > Franklin
> >
> >
> > "MessengerSays" wrote:
> >
> >> There is a new post on the Messenger blog:
> >> http://messengersays.spaces.live.com...9E!22980.entry
> >>
> >> Please make comments about this blog post in this thread.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

We do register this in the the install of WLM and its protocol Handlers. To
get firefox or Opera working you will need to have them read the proper
regstry entries

"Franklin Tse" wrote:

> Actually, WLM's protocol is unregistered in the Operating system. That's why
> Firefox and Opera can handle it.
> --
> Franklin
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Hi Franklin,
> >
> > I haven't tried it in Opera, but FireFox handles its own protocol handlers and ignores the
> > Windows ones.
> >
> > I don't really consider it a bug, but more a suggestion. That or you might consider it a
> > suggestion for either FireFox or Opera to integrate with the protocol handlers in Windows as
> > opposed to just having their own.
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
> > You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> > --
> >
> > "Franklin Tse" <> wrote in message
> > news:61F31932-668E-4D47-A72D-...
> > > It seems that these protocols are not worked in Firefox and Opera. Is it a bug?
> > > --
> > > Franklin
> > >
> > >
> > > "MessengerSays" wrote:
> > >
> > >> There is a new post on the Messenger blog:
> > >> http://messengersays.spaces.live.com...9E!22980.entry
> > >>
> > >> Please make comments about this blog post in this thread.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >

0 attachments included... But looking at the setup code on our end we do
register on the system at setup time. It works in word, excell, outlook, OE.

James Baker
Program Manager
Windows Live Messenger

"Franklin Tse" wrote:

> Please refer to the attachment for why I said the protocol is unregistered.
>
> Franklin Tse
>
> "jb" <> wrote in message
> news:F81B7936-B146-4E1A-B064-...
> > We do register this in the the install of WLM and its protocol Handlers.
> > To
> > get firefox or Opera working you will need to have them read the proper
> > regstry entries
> >
> > "Franklin Tse" wrote:
> >
> >> Actually, WLM's protocol is unregistered in the Operating system. That's
> >> why
> >> Firefox and Opera can handle it.
> >> --
> >> Franklin
> >>
> >>
> >> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Franklin,
> >> >
> >> > I haven't tried it in Opera, but FireFox handles its own protocol
> >> > handlers and ignores the
> >> > Windows ones.
> >> >
> >> > I don't really consider it a bug, but more a suggestion. That or you
> >> > might consider it a
> >> > suggestion for either FireFox or Opera to integrate with the protocol
> >> > handlers in Windows as
> >> > opposed to just having their own.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Jonathan Kay
> >> > Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> >> > Associate Expert
> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >> > All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
> >> > You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > "Franklin Tse" <> wrote in message
> >> > news:61F31932-668E-4D47-A72D-...
> >> > > It seems that these protocols are not worked in Firefox and Opera. Is
> >> > > it a bug?
> >> > > --
> >> > > Franklin
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > "MessengerSays" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> There is a new post on the Messenger blog:
> >> > >> http://messengersays.spaces.live.com...9E!22980.entry
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Please make comments about this blog post in this thread.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >> >

Hi,

Not to barge in, but it's not showing because attachments aren't in the web-based viewer (for
security reasons, naturally). It's just a screenshot from Vista at the Set Associations
dialog where it shows the various protocols and allow you to change them.

Personally, I'm glad it doesn't show up there since then the handler could be changed and
then wouldn't be consistent on all installations.

But, MSNIM is still registered as a Protocol Handler in the registry :
HKLM\Software\Classes\Protocols\Handler\msimn

I think handlers need to be registered elsewhere (like HKCR) to show in that Vista dialog.

It seems that FireFox will just check HKCU and HKCR for the handlers. So if you do
aim:goim?screenname=whomever, it goes through HKCR, finds the open command under the aim key
and sends "aim:goim?screenname=notarealuser" to the executable. MSNIM isn't there, so it
doesn't work.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
--





"jb" <> wrote in message
newsCFA84FF-3D12-4421-9A0E-...
>0 attachments included... But looking at the setup code on our end we do
> register on the system at setup time. It works in word, excell, outlook, OE.
>
> James Baker
> Program Manager
> Windows Live Messenger
>
> "Franklin Tse" wrote:
>
>> Please refer to the attachment for why I said the protocol is unregistered.
>>
>> Franklin Tse
>>
>> "jb" <> wrote in message
>> news:F81B7936-B146-4E1A-B064-...
>> > We do register this in the the install of WLM and its protocol Handlers.
>> > To
>> > get firefox or Opera working you will need to have them read the proper
>> > regstry entries
>> >
>> > "Franklin Tse" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Actually, WLM's protocol is unregistered in the Operating system. That's
>> >> why
>> >> Firefox and Opera can handle it.
>> >> --
>> >> Franklin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi Franklin,
>> >> >
>> >> > I haven't tried it in Opera, but FireFox handles its own protocol
>> >> > handlers and ignores the
>> >> > Windows ones.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't really consider it a bug, but more a suggestion. That or you
>> >> > might consider it a
>> >> > suggestion for either FireFox or Opera to integrate with the protocol
>> >> > handlers in Windows as
>> >> > opposed to just having their own.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Jonathan Kay
>> >> > Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> >> > Associate Expert
>> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> >> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> >> > All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
>> >> > You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> > "Franklin Tse" <> wrote in message
>> >> > news:61F31932-668E-4D47-A72D-...
>> >> > > It seems that these protocols are not worked in Firefox and Opera. Is
>> >> > > it a bug?
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Franklin
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "MessengerSays" wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> There is a new post on the Messenger blog:
>> >> > >> http://messengersays.spaces.live.com...9E!22980.entry
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Please make comments about this blog post in this thread.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> >
>> >> >

Thanks jonathan. The screen shot you mentioned does not represent registered
protocol handlers. It just represents the ones which the OS surfaces via UI.


Registration in both hives is not what we do for messenger at all. But
thanks for the information about what Firefox honors for their commands.

Jonathan can you send me a e-mail directly with this information also so you
can get credit for the investigation. I will send you my address on via the
MVP channels.

Thanks
James.

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Not to barge in, but it's not showing because attachments aren't in the web-based viewer (for
> security reasons, naturally). It's just a screenshot from Vista at the Set Associations
> dialog where it shows the various protocols and allow you to change them.
>
> Personally, I'm glad it doesn't show up there since then the handler could be changed and
> then wouldn't be consistent on all installations.
>
> But, MSNIM is still registered as a Protocol Handler in the registry :
> HKLM\Software\Classes\Protocols\Handler\msimn
>
> I think handlers need to be registered elsewhere (like HKCR) to show in that Vista dialog.
>
> It seems that FireFox will just check HKCU and HKCR for the handlers. So if you do
> aim:goim?screenname=whomever, it goes through HKCR, finds the open command under the aim key
> and sends "aim:goim?screenname=notarealuser" to the executable. MSNIM isn't there, so it
> doesn't work.
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> --
>
>
>
>
>
> "jb" <> wrote in message
> newsCFA84FF-3D12-4421-9A0E-...
> >0 attachments included... But looking at the setup code on our end we do
> > register on the system at setup time. It works in word, excell, outlook, OE.
> >
> > James Baker
> > Program Manager
> > Windows Live Messenger
> >
> > "Franklin Tse" wrote:
> >
> >> Please refer to the attachment for why I said the protocol is unregistered.
> >>
> >> Franklin Tse
> >>
> >> "jb" <> wrote in message
> >> news:F81B7936-B146-4E1A-B064-...
> >> > We do register this in the the install of WLM and its protocol Handlers.
> >> > To
> >> > get firefox or Opera working you will need to have them read the proper
> >> > regstry entries
> >> >
> >> > "Franklin Tse" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Actually, WLM's protocol is unregistered in the Operating system. That's
> >> >> why
> >> >> Firefox and Opera can handle it.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Franklin
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hi Franklin,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I haven't tried it in Opera, but FireFox handles its own protocol
> >> >> > handlers and ignores the
> >> >> > Windows ones.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I don't really consider it a bug, but more a suggestion. That or you
> >> >> > might consider it a
> >> >> > suggestion for either FireFox or Opera to integrate with the protocol
> >> >> > handlers in Windows as
> >> >> > opposed to just having their own.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Jonathan Kay
> >> >> > Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> >> >> > Associate Expert
> >> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >> >> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >> >> > All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
> >> >> > You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> >> >> > --
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Franklin Tse" <> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:61F31932-668E-4D47-A72D-...
> >> >> > > It seems that these protocols are not worked in Firefox and Opera. Is
> >> >> > > it a bug?
> >> >> > > --
> >> >> > > Franklin
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "MessengerSays" wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> There is a new post on the Messenger blog:
> >> >> > >> http://messengersays.spaces.live.com...9E!22980.entry
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Please make comments about this blog post in this thread.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
>
>