Microsoft Backup

If one uses the Microsoft backup system offered with Vista Home Premium, is
an external, separate program, such as Maxtor, needed?

Hi,

No, but I would suggest that you test both to see which one you prefer.

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"Felicita" <> wrote in message
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> If one uses the Microsoft backup system offered with Vista Home Premium,
> is
> an external, separate program, such as Maxtor, needed?

I didn't like the M-backup as it didn't give me any choice on what drives I
wanted backed up with their full backup. I have the C:, D: and E: is the
disaster recovery drive that Dell put on my new computer. Both C and D are
seperate 1TB drives and when I tried to backup my system it wanted to backup
all three drives even though I wanted to backup just C: to D: and saw no
reason for backing up E as this drives puts the computer back to what it was
when I bought it and so never changes.

"Felicita" <> wrote in message
news:15473198-B21A-480E-BC17-...
> If one uses the Microsoft backup system offered with Vista Home Premium,
> is
> an external, separate program, such as Maxtor, needed?

Felicita wrote:
> If one uses the Microsoft backup system offered with Vista Home Premium, is
> an external, separate program, such as Maxtor, needed?

Hi,

I do use an external h.d. backup for one reason. If your internal h.d.
fails, then your original files plus your Microsoft backup files are all
gone.

Morton Linder

Felicita wrote:

> If one uses the Microsoft backup system offered with Vista Home Premium, is
> an external, separate program, such as Maxtor, needed?

Vista's built-in backup is a very restrictive PoS. NTBACKUP, XP's built-in
backup app, was *far far* better.

One of several reasons to not migrate from XP to Vista IMHO.
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Cheers, Bob

"alslush" wrote on microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup that
recovery disk instructions say you are supposed to back up your data to a CD
or DVD, not to an external disk drive.

I'm still trying to understand that. That would be a monstrosity with all
the CDs/DVDs needed. Mess up on one and good bye backup!

Anyway, supposedly with the Vista backup, you should be able to do a full
system restore from what you backed up to "Full Computer Backup."

Since you can't test it until a crash happens, I still wish there was a
utility that would tell me I have an intact backup there in case I need it.
My confidence is shaky.

John

"Felicita" <> wrote in message
news:15473198-B21A-480E-BC17-...
> If one uses the Microsoft backup system offered with Vista Home Premium,
> is
> an external, separate program, such as Maxtor, needed?

In article <>,
Bob Willard <> wrote:
>
>Vista's built-in backup is a very restrictive PoS. NTBACKUP, XP's built-in
>backup app, was *far far* better.
>

You can just copy ntbackup.exe from an XP box and it runs just fine.

the wharf rat wrote:
> In article <>,
> Bob Willard <> wrote:
>
>>Vista's built-in backup is a very restrictive PoS. NTBACKUP, XP's built-in
>>backup app, was *far far* better.
>>
>
>
> You can just copy ntbackup.exe from an XP box and it runs just fine.
>

I copied ntbackup.exe from my XP PRO PC's \WINDOWS\system32 folder to my
Vista Home Premium PC's \Windows\System32 folder and then invoked it, but
Vista complained that ntbackup.exe could not find NTMSAPI.DLL.

There is a copy of ntmsapi.dll in Vista's \Windows\winsxs\x86... folder,
but I don't know how to get ntbackup.exe to find it. I tried copying that
..DLL to the \System32 folder, which fixed that problem, but Vista then
complained about yet another .DLL.

Do you know where to park ntbackup.exe in a Vista PC so that it can find
all of the .DLLs it needs? Or, should some set of .DLLs be copied from a
XP PC along with the .exe?
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Thanks & Cheers, Bob

In article <>,
Bob Willard <> wrote:
>
>Do you know where to park ntbackup.exe in a Vista PC so that it can find
>all of the .DLLs it needs? Or, should some set of .DLLs be copied from a
>XP PC along with the .exe?

You'll need to copy ntbackup.exe, ntmsapi.dll, vssapi.dll,
ntbackup.chm, and ntbackup.hlp to their own seperate directory. You'll
also have to disable VSS (voulme shadow copy) for your backups because the
Vista version is different and incompatible. It also won't save the system
state so you'll still need to run the Vista backup at least occasionally.

I know that kind of sucks, but there ya go...

the wharf rat wrote:
> In article <>,
> Bob Willard <> wrote:
>
>>Do you know where to park ntbackup.exe in a Vista PC so that it can find
>>all of the .DLLs it needs? Or, should some set of .DLLs be copied from a
>>XP PC along with the .exe?
>
>
> You'll need to copy ntbackup.exe, ntmsapi.dll, vssapi.dll,
> ntbackup.chm, and ntbackup.hlp to their own seperate directory. You'll
> also have to disable VSS (voulme shadow copy) for your backups because the
> Vista version is different and incompatible. It also won't save the system
> state so you'll still need to run the Vista backup at least occasionally.
>
> I know that kind of sucks, but there ya go...
>
>

Thanks a bunch.

Arrrgh. Running Vista backup is just not acceptable for me. Sounds like it
is time to buy a backup app for Vista; what a pile of crud.

But, thanks for your time and the info.
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Cheers, Bob