Microsoft bows to pressure of the hated new OS Vista

http://www.crn.com/software/202102410

Good news for me and the other MS Partners that think Vista is not ready
yet.
Microsoft To Extend Windows XP Deadline For OEMs
By Kevin McLaughlin, CMP Channel
2:51 PM EDT Thu. Sep. 27, 2007

Microsoft will announce late Thursday that it will give OEMs six additional
months to sell PCs with Windows XP installed, CRN has learned.
Microsoft is extending the deadline for sales of new direct OEM PCs with
Windows XP installed from January 31, 2008 to June 30, 2008, according to
sources close to the company.

"The named accounts, the ones that have volume, have complained about the
end of life for XP, and that's because adoption of Windows Vista has been
slow," said one Microsoft partner who requested anonymity. "This is a pretty
important development for larger partners, and it's also somewhat surprising
because it shows that they've been listening to us."

The move comes as little surprise to VARs and system builders who have been
ripping Windows Vista off the desktops and notebooks they sell and replacing
it with Windows XP ever since the next generation operating system debuted
in January.

"We don't really do anything with Vista right now, the requests are few and
far between," said Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at
BostonTech Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider.

Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its momentum
is unprecedented. However, the fact that Microsoft has been working on a
third service pack for Windows XP, currently slated for release in the first
half of 2008, is a reflection of the still-strong demand for the OS,
according to system builders.

"The problem is that XP is too good of a product," said one Microsoft system
builder partner who requested anonymity. "XP has become so embedded in
peoples' environments, it's extremely difficult to get them to switch to
Vista."



Clark...

On the contrary--I skipped XP and went right to Vista and I'm glad I did.

John

"Clark" <> wrote in message
news:scaLi.30$...
> http://www.crn.com/software/202102410
>
> Good news for me and the other MS Partners that think Vista is not ready
> yet.
> Microsoft To Extend Windows XP Deadline For OEMs
> By Kevin McLaughlin, CMP Channel
> 2:51 PM EDT Thu. Sep. 27, 2007
>
> Microsoft will announce late Thursday that it will give OEMs six
> additional months to sell PCs with Windows XP installed, CRN has learned.
> Microsoft is extending the deadline for sales of new direct OEM PCs with
> Windows XP installed from January 31, 2008 to June 30, 2008, according to
> sources close to the company.
>
> "The named accounts, the ones that have volume, have complained about the
> end of life for XP, and that's because adoption of Windows Vista has been
> slow," said one Microsoft partner who requested anonymity. "This is a
> pretty important development for larger partners, and it's also somewhat
> surprising because it shows that they've been listening to us."
>
> The move comes as little surprise to VARs and system builders who have
> been ripping Windows Vista off the desktops and notebooks they sell and
> replacing it with Windows XP ever since the next generation operating
> system debuted in January.
>
> "We don't really do anything with Vista right now, the requests are few
> and far between," said Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business
> development at BostonTech Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider.
>
> Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its
> momentum is unprecedented. However, the fact that Microsoft has been
> working on a third service pack for Windows XP, currently slated for
> release in the first half of 2008, is a reflection of the still-strong
> demand for the OS, according to system builders.
>
> "The problem is that XP is too good of a product," said one Microsoft
> system builder partner who requested anonymity. "XP has become so embedded
> in peoples' environments, it's extremely difficult to get them to switch
> to Vista."
>
>
>
> Clark...
>
>

Glad someone likes it.

Clark

John wrote:
> On the contrary--I skipped XP and went right to Vista and I'm glad I
> did.
> John
>
> "Clark" <> wrote in message
> news:scaLi.30$...
>> http://www.crn.com/software/202102410
>>
>> Good news for me and the other MS Partners that think Vista is not
>> ready yet.
>> Microsoft To Extend Windows XP Deadline For OEMs
>> By Kevin McLaughlin, CMP Channel
>> 2:51 PM EDT Thu. Sep. 27, 2007
>>
>> Microsoft will announce late Thursday that it will give OEMs six
>> additional months to sell PCs with Windows XP installed, CRN has
>> learned. Microsoft is extending the deadline for sales of new direct
>> OEM PCs with Windows XP installed from January 31, 2008 to June 30,
>> 2008, according to sources close to the company.
>>
>> "The named accounts, the ones that have volume, have complained
>> about the end of life for XP, and that's because adoption of Windows
>> Vista has been slow," said one Microsoft partner who requested
>> anonymity. "This is a pretty important development for larger
>> partners, and it's also somewhat surprising because it shows that
>> they've been listening to us." The move comes as little surprise to VARs
>> and system builders who
>> have been ripping Windows Vista off the desktops and notebooks they
>> sell and replacing it with Windows XP ever since the next generation
>> operating system debuted in January.
>>
>> "We don't really do anything with Vista right now, the requests are
>> few and far between," said Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business
>> development at BostonTech Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution
>> provider. Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and
>> its
>> momentum is unprecedented. However, the fact that Microsoft has been
>> working on a third service pack for Windows XP, currently slated for
>> release in the first half of 2008, is a reflection of the
>> still-strong demand for the OS, according to system builders.
>>
>> "The problem is that XP is too good of a product," said one Microsoft
>> system builder partner who requested anonymity. "XP has become so
>> embedded in peoples' environments, it's extremely difficult to get
>> them to switch to Vista."
>>
>>
>>
>> Clark...

its on my laptop and is decent...but Vista is a memory hog and I hate the
UAC control, i finally shut the damn thing off...annoying...hopefully Vista
Service Pack 1 will fix some issues

"Clark" <> wrote in message
news:d9NLi.9$_...
>
> Glad someone likes it.
>
> Clark
>
> John wrote:
>> On the contrary--I skipped XP and went right to Vista and I'm glad I
>> did.
>> John
>>
>> "Clark" <> wrote in message
>> news:scaLi.30$...
>>> http://www.crn.com/software/202102410
>>>
>>> Good news for me and the other MS Partners that think Vista is not
>>> ready yet.
>>> Microsoft To Extend Windows XP Deadline For OEMs
>>> By Kevin McLaughlin, CMP Channel
>>> 2:51 PM EDT Thu. Sep. 27, 2007
>>>
>>> Microsoft will announce late Thursday that it will give OEMs six
>>> additional months to sell PCs with Windows XP installed, CRN has
>>> learned. Microsoft is extending the deadline for sales of new direct
>>> OEM PCs with Windows XP installed from January 31, 2008 to June 30,
>>> 2008, according to sources close to the company.
>>>
>>> "The named accounts, the ones that have volume, have complained
>>> about the end of life for XP, and that's because adoption of Windows
>>> Vista has been slow," said one Microsoft partner who requested
>>> anonymity. "This is a pretty important development for larger
>>> partners, and it's also somewhat surprising because it shows that
>>> they've been listening to us." The move comes as little surprise to VARs
>>> and system builders who
>>> have been ripping Windows Vista off the desktops and notebooks they
>>> sell and replacing it with Windows XP ever since the next generation
>>> operating system debuted in January.
>>>
>>> "We don't really do anything with Vista right now, the requests are
>>> few and far between," said Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business
>>> development at BostonTech Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution
>>> provider. Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and
>>> its
>>> momentum is unprecedented. However, the fact that Microsoft has been
>>> working on a third service pack for Windows XP, currently slated for
>>> release in the first half of 2008, is a reflection of the
>>> still-strong demand for the OS, according to system builders.
>>>
>>> "The problem is that XP is too good of a product," said one Microsoft
>>> system builder partner who requested anonymity. "XP has become so
>>> embedded in peoples' environments, it's extremely difficult to get
>>> them to switch to Vista."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Clark...
>
>

"Dave Phillips" <> wrote in message
news:. ..
> its on my laptop and is decent...but Vista is a memory hog and I hate the
> UAC control, i finally shut the damn thing off...annoying...hopefully
> Vista Service Pack 1 will fix some issues



What exactly makes you think it's a memory hog? If it's because you see
aproximately 50% of your ram in use all the time, that's by design and
operates differently than XP. I'm not saying Vista doesn't have some issues
to be ironed out over the next year or two as it matures, but smarter use of
ram isn't one of them.


>
> "Clark" <> wrote in message
> news:d9NLi.9$_...
>>
>> Glad someone likes it.
>>
>> Clark
>>
>> John wrote:
>>> On the contrary--I skipped XP and went right to Vista and I'm glad I
>>> did.
>>> John
>>>
>>> "Clark" <> wrote in message
>>> news:scaLi.30$...
>>>> http://www.crn.com/software/202102410
>>>>
>>>> Good news for me and the other MS Partners that think Vista is not
>>>> ready yet.
>>>> Microsoft To Extend Windows XP Deadline For OEMs
>>>> By Kevin McLaughlin, CMP Channel
>>>> 2:51 PM EDT Thu. Sep. 27, 2007
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft will announce late Thursday that it will give OEMs six
>>>> additional months to sell PCs with Windows XP installed, CRN has
>>>> learned. Microsoft is extending the deadline for sales of new direct
>>>> OEM PCs with Windows XP installed from January 31, 2008 to June 30,
>>>> 2008, according to sources close to the company.
>>>>
>>>> "The named accounts, the ones that have volume, have complained
>>>> about the end of life for XP, and that's because adoption of Windows
>>>> Vista has been slow," said one Microsoft partner who requested
>>>> anonymity. "This is a pretty important development for larger
>>>> partners, and it's also somewhat surprising because it shows that
>>>> they've been listening to us." The move comes as little surprise to
>>>> VARs and system builders who
>>>> have been ripping Windows Vista off the desktops and notebooks they
>>>> sell and replacing it with Windows XP ever since the next generation
>>>> operating system debuted in January.
>>>>
>>>> "We don't really do anything with Vista right now, the requests are
>>>> few and far between," said Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business
>>>> development at BostonTech Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution
>>>> provider. Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista
>>>> and its
>>>> momentum is unprecedented. However, the fact that Microsoft has been
>>>> working on a third service pack for Windows XP, currently slated for
>>>> release in the first half of 2008, is a reflection of the
>>>> still-strong demand for the OS, according to system builders.
>>>>
>>>> "The problem is that XP is too good of a product," said one Microsoft
>>>> system builder partner who requested anonymity. "XP has become so
>>>> embedded in peoples' environments, it's extremely difficult to get
>>>> them to switch to Vista."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Clark...
>>
>>
>
>

In article <2gxZi.282$>, says...
>
> "Dave Phillips" <> wrote in message
> news:. ..
> > its on my laptop and is decent...but Vista is a memory hog and I hate the
> > UAC control, i finally shut the damn thing off...annoying...hopefully
> > Vista Service Pack 1 will fix some issues
>
>
>
> What exactly makes you think it's a memory hog? If it's because you see
> aproximately 50% of your ram in use all the time, that's by design and
> operates differently than XP. I'm not saying Vista doesn't have some issues
> to be ironed out over the next year or two as it matures, but smarter use of
> ram isn't one of them.

It's a hog. I say that because it runs like a dog with "only" 512mb. XP
would be more than happy with that.

"Mike Roman" <> wrote in message
news: ing.com...
> In article <2gxZi.282$>, says...
>>
>> "Dave Phillips" <> wrote in message
>> news:. ..
>> > its on my laptop and is decent...but Vista is a memory hog and I hate
>> > the
>> > UAC control, i finally shut the damn thing off...annoying...hopefully
>> > Vista Service Pack 1 will fix some issues
>>
>>
>>
>> What exactly makes you think it's a memory hog? If it's because you see
>> aproximately 50% of your ram in use all the time, that's by design and
>> operates differently than XP. I'm not saying Vista doesn't have some
>> issues
>> to be ironed out over the next year or two as it matures, but smarter use
>> of
>> ram isn't one of them.
>
> It's a hog. I say that because it runs like a dog with "only" 512mb. XP
> would be more than happy with that.

Well..considering my cell phone has a 2gb memory card in it these days I'd
say....up your ram a bit if it's available for your laptop.

So would Win95.


"Mike Roman" <> wrote in message
news: ing.com...
> In article <2gxZi.282$>, says...
>>
>> "Dave Phillips" <> wrote in message
>> news:. ..
>> > its on my laptop and is decent...but Vista is a memory hog and I hate
>> > the
>> > UAC control, i finally shut the damn thing off...annoying...hopefully
>> > Vista Service Pack 1 will fix some issues
>>
>>
>>
>> What exactly makes you think it's a memory hog? If it's because you see
>> aproximately 50% of your ram in use all the time, that's by design and
>> operates differently than XP. I'm not saying Vista doesn't have some
>> issues
>> to be ironed out over the next year or two as it matures, but smarter use
>> of
>> ram isn't one of them.
>
> It's a hog. I say that because it runs like a dog with "only" 512mb. XP
> would be more than happy with that.