Microsoft doesn't appear to care about our computer security!!!!

If they did care:

*Microsoft Update would work. (It doesn't for me. See my last two
posts in this forum. They happened almost a month ago and no one seemed
to care at the time.)

*Automatic Updates would encourage users to use Microsoft Update rather
than the other way around.

*They would not wait for a handy Tuesday to release their security fixes.

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Will Pittenger wrote:
> If they did care:
>
> *Microsoft Update would work. (It doesn't for me. See my last two
> posts in this forum. They happened almost a month ago and no one seemed
> to care at the time.)
>
> *Automatic Updates would encourage users to use Microsoft Update rather
> than the other way around.
>
> *They would not wait for a handy Tuesday to release their security fixes.
>
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> Will Pittenger
> [will dot pittenger at globespeed dot com]
> Send large attachments to [will dot pittenger 1 at gmail dot com]
> My homepage (which includes links to all of my sites):
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Windows Update is the default but Microsoft is given as an easy option
if not already installed.
If Microsoft Update is installed, you need to look to disable since it
is not as visible.
Some do not want Microsoft Update and they would resent Microsoft
forcing that change if it were automatic.

When updates came out as available, many complained since at times,
they were always updating which had a significant impact on their
production.
For most businesses, the scheduled 2nd Tuesday was exactly what they
had asked for a long time.
This greatly simplifies their scheduling.
Microsoft can and does on occasion post an update out of cycle if
conditions warrant.

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http://www.dts-l.org


"Will Pittenger" <will.pittenger@see_my_signature.net> wrote in
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> If they did care:
>
> *Microsoft Update would work. (It doesn't for me. See my last two
> posts in this forum. They happened almost a month ago and no one
> seemed to care at the time.)
>
> *Automatic Updates would encourage users to use Microsoft Update
> rather than the other way around.
>
> *They would not wait for a handy Tuesday to release their security
> fixes.
>
> ------
> Will Pittenger
> [will dot pittenger at globespeed dot com]
> Send large attachments to [will dot pittenger 1 at gmail dot com]
> My homepage (which includes links to all of my sites):
> http://will.pittenger1.googlepages.com/home

On Thu, 10 May 2007 22:11:13 -0500, Will Pittenger
<will.pittenger@see_my_signature.net> wrote:

>*Microsoft Update would work. (It doesn't for me. See my last two
>posts in this forum. They happened almost a month ago and no one seemed
>to care at the time.)
>
>*Automatic Updates would encourage users to use Microsoft Update rather
>than the other way around.
>
>*They would not wait for a handy Tuesday to release their security fixes.

I have had no problems with updates for Windows XP. Microsoft has
chosen to release updates on the second Tuesday of each month, unless
a 'super critical' update is needed.

I don't use automatic updates at all, but I check them manually on
update Tuesday, or if I see comments in this group or the WindowsXP
help group about an update being released early.

I don't understand your second sentence, "Automatic Updates would
encourage users...."

--
Zilbandy

1. Microsoft Update **was** working but is not anymore.
2. I don't think Windows Update works either. It was just reminding me
to upgrade to MU.
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Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
> Windows Update is the default but Microsoft is given as an easy option
> if not already installed.
> If Microsoft Update is installed, you need to look to disable since it
> is not as visible.
> Some do not want Microsoft Update and they would resent Microsoft
> forcing that change if it were automatic.
>
> When updates came out as available, many complained since at times, they
> were always updating which had a significant impact on their production.
> For most businesses, the scheduled 2nd Tuesday was exactly what they had
> asked for a long time.
> This greatly simplifies their scheduling.
> Microsoft can and does on occasion post an update out of cycle if
> conditions warrant.
>

BTW: I don't see the business connection. What is to prevent MS from
releasing the update ASAP and allowing business to wait? Note they
would have to do so at their own risk!
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Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
> Windows Update is the default but Microsoft is given as an easy option
> if not already installed.
> If Microsoft Update is installed, you need to look to disable since it
> is not as visible.
> Some do not want Microsoft Update and they would resent Microsoft
> forcing that change if it were automatic.
>
> When updates came out as available, many complained since at times, they
> were always updating which had a significant impact on their production.
> For most businesses, the scheduled 2nd Tuesday was exactly what they had
> asked for a long time.
> This greatly simplifies their scheduling.
> Microsoft can and does on occasion post an update out of cycle if
> conditions warrant.
>

Often the bad guys lack the information about a vulnerability to
exploit it.
Once the patch is released, to anyone, they get it and can start
reverse engineering to determine the vulnerability.
At the point of patch release, everybody becomes more vulnerable since
the vulnerability is more widely known to those wanting to take
control of your computer.
For that and other reasons, once a security patch is released, it is
to everyone's benefit to evaluate and install the patch immediately.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Will Pittenger" <will.pittenger@see_my_signature.net> wrote in
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> BTW: I don't see the business connection. What is to prevent MS
> from releasing the update ASAP and allowing business to wait? Note
> they would have to do so at their own risk!
> ------
> Will Pittenger
> [will dot pittenger at globespeed dot com]
> Send large attachments to [will dot pittenger 1 at gmail dot com]
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>
>
> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>> Windows Update is the default but Microsoft is given as an easy
>> option if not already installed.
>> If Microsoft Update is installed, you need to look to disable since
>> it is not as visible.
>> Some do not want Microsoft Update and they would resent Microsoft
>> forcing that change if it were automatic.
>>
>> When updates came out as available, many complained since at times,
>> they were always updating which had a significant impact on their
>> production.
>> For most businesses, the scheduled 2nd Tuesday was exactly what
>> they had asked for a long time.
>> This greatly simplifies their scheduling.
>> Microsoft can and does on occasion post an update out of cycle if
>> conditions warrant.
>>

Yeah, and I have to wait and wait and wait. I still have this week's
downloads coming down.
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Ye

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
> Often the bad guys lack the information about a vulnerability to exploit
> it.
> Once the patch is released, to anyone, they get it and can start reverse
> engineering to determine the vulnerability.
> At the point of patch release, everybody becomes more vulnerable since
> the vulnerability is more widely known to those wanting to take control
> of your computer.
> For that and other reasons, once a security patch is released, it is to
> everyone's benefit to evaluate and install the patch immediately.
>

Microsoft received huge numbers of complaints almost every time a
patch was released since it was unpredictable and often a few days a
week.
That caused unacceptable interruptions to production for many.
Now the updates can generally be planned in advance thus improving
production.

No matter how Microsoft does it, there will always be some that prefer
it differently.

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http://www.dts-l.org


"Will Pittenger" <will.pittenger@see_my_signature.net> wrote in
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> Yeah, and I have to wait and wait and wait. I still have this
> week's downloads coming down.
> ------
> Will Pittenger
> [will dot pittenger at globespeed dot com]
> Send large attachments to [will dot pittenger 1 at gmail dot com]
> My homepage (which includes links to all of my sites):
> http://will.pittenger1.googlepages.com/home
> Ye
>
> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>> Often the bad guys lack the information about a vulnerability to
>> exploit it.
>> Once the patch is released, to anyone, they get it and can start
>> reverse engineering to determine the vulnerability.
>> At the point of patch release, everybody becomes more vulnerable
>> since the vulnerability is more widely known to those wanting to
>> take control of your computer.
>> For that and other reasons, once a security patch is released, it
>> is to everyone's benefit to evaluate and install the patch
>> immediately.
>>

Hello to all,

I wonder why my fully up to date computers with different soft- and hardware
configurations are still running fine? Even with what most more advanced
users see as the most dramatic software you mght install: Norton Systemworks
2005 Installed

I have to admit that I skip anything that has to do with IE, because
installing it and really not liking it at all and so removing it the proper
way made me have to revive my windows setup the difficult way.

I have installed quite some systems and still regularry do so and update
them all and have hardly any problems, must be blind luck I guess? Or does
Micrososoft expect the user(s) to be a little more carefull like I am?

Anyway I forgot to mention I skip any driver update from MS and so far I
must say that XP is a little buggy but getting to know the bugs and the
workaround you can work fine with it: after 4 years I have made a clean
install and updated all and it works 99 % okay.

Best regards,
Michel Denie






"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Microsoft received huge numbers of complaints almost every time a patch
> was released since it was unpredictable and often a few days a week.
> That caused unacceptable interruptions to production for many.
> Now the updates can generally be planned in advance thus improving
> production.
>
> No matter how Microsoft does it, there will always be some that prefer it
> differently.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Will Pittenger" <will.pittenger@see_my_signature.net> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Yeah, and I have to wait and wait and wait. I still have this week's
>> downloads coming down.
>> ------
>> Will Pittenger
>> [will dot pittenger at globespeed dot com]
>> Send large attachments to [will dot pittenger 1 at gmail dot com]
>> My homepage (which includes links to all of my sites):
>> http://will.pittenger1.googlepages.com/home
>> Ye
>>
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>>> Often the bad guys lack the information about a vulnerability to exploit
>>> it.
>>> Once the patch is released, to anyone, they get it and can start reverse
>>> engineering to determine the vulnerability.
>>> At the point of patch release, everybody becomes more vulnerable since
>>> the vulnerability is more widely known to those wanting to take control
>>> of your computer.
>>> For that and other reasons, once a security patch is released, it is to
>>> everyone's benefit to evaluate and install the patch immediately.
>>>
>