Microsoft exec: We know users hate UAC

http://blogs.computerworld.com/micro...users_hate_uac



Here's one of the more intriguing tidbits in the hundreds of pages of emails
released as part of the Vista "junk PC" lawsuit: A Microsoft exec freely
admits that users are so annoyed with User Account Control (UAC), that
they're turning it off en masse.

The recently unsealed Microsoft emails are part of the lawsuit against
Microsoft for a marketing scheme in which people claim that Microsoft misled
consumers into buying the Windows Vista Capable PCs, even though the PCs
couldn't run the most important features of Vista.

John Kalkman, who admitted in one of the emails that Microsoft launched the
Vista Capable PC scheme in order to help Intel meet its quarterly earnings,
had this to say about UAC in a February, 2007 email:

Biggest thing I'm worried about [concerning Vista uptake] is UAC (user
access control). It looks like more and more people are turning off (based
on advice from websites) for easier friction free use.

By the way, notice that even Microsoft execs can't remember the proper name
of this feature -- it's user account control, not user access control.

It's nice that Microsoft execs know people hate UAC. But nicer still would
be if they would fix it.






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What people are REALLY saying about Vista:
http://www.microsplot.com/news/2007/..._windows_vista

50 Ways to leave your Vista....

CHORUS:

You just format the drive , Clive
Get a New Mac , Jack
Y'don't need that crap toy, Roy
Just get yourself free
Boot from a *nix, Jix
You don't need to discuss much
Install XP, Lee
And get yourself free

Incompetent users and feeble minded folks hate UAC. They cannot appreciate
the fact that by turning it off they open the gateway for malware writers
and hackers to their computers. Instead of learning basics of new computing
they follow the advice of crooks who roam this NG and encourage people to
make their job easier.

Instead of acknowledging the problem MS should explain to the public what
UAC is all about, give statistics and charts.

"On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
news:...
> http://blogs.computerworld.com/micro...users_hate_uac
>
>
>
> Here's one of the more intriguing tidbits in the hundreds of pages of
> emails released as part of the Vista "junk PC" lawsuit: A Microsoft exec
> freely admits that users are so annoyed with User Account Control (UAC),
> that they're turning it off en masse.
>
> The recently unsealed Microsoft emails are part of the lawsuit against
> Microsoft for a marketing scheme in which people claim that Microsoft
> misled consumers into buying the Windows Vista Capable PCs, even though
> the PCs couldn't run the most important features of Vista.
>
> John Kalkman, who admitted in one of the emails that Microsoft launched
> the Vista Capable PC scheme in order to help Intel meet its quarterly
> earnings, had this to say about UAC in a February, 2007 email:
>
> Biggest thing I'm worried about [concerning Vista uptake] is UAC (user
> access control). It looks like more and more people are turning off (based
> on advice from websites) for easier friction free use.
>
> By the way, notice that even Microsoft execs can't remember the proper
> name of this feature -- it's user account control, not user access
> control.
>
> It's nice that Microsoft execs know people hate UAC. But nicer still would
> be if they would fix it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> What people are REALLY saying about Vista:
> http://www.microsplot.com/news/2007/..._windows_vista
>
> 50 Ways to leave your Vista....
>
> CHORUS:
>
> You just format the drive , Clive
> Get a New Mac , Jack
> Y'don't need that crap toy, Roy
> Just get yourself free
> Boot from a *nix, Jix
> You don't need to discuss much
> Install XP, Lee
> And get yourself free
>
>
>
>

AlexB wrote:

> Incompetent users and feeble minded folks hate UAC. They cannot appreciate
> the fact that by turning it off they open the gateway for malware writers
> and hackers to their computers. Instead of learning basics of new
> computing they follow the advice of crooks who roam this NG and encourage
> people to make their job easier.
>
> Instead of acknowledging the problem MS should explain to the public what
> UAC is all about, give statistics and charts.
>
OK, here's a chart:

Users Frustrated with UAC: --------------------------------------- 90%
Users Who Turn off UAC: ---------------------------------------- 90%
Computers Compromised: ------------------------------------------- 100%
People Who Believe MS Got It
Wrong: -------------------------------------------- 1000%
People Who Believe MS Can Create a Secure OS: - .05%
People Who Believe CNN Has The Best Political Team on TV: Wolf Blitzer

Cheers.

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http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/war...tm/compost.htm

Of course they'll hate it, but it's only like the elevation prompts in Mac
OSX and Linux.

I'm not convinced anything actually needs "fixing".

SteveT

NoStop wrote:
> AlexB wrote:
>
>
>>Incompetent users and feeble minded folks hate UAC. They cannot appreciate
>>the fact that by turning it off they open the gateway for malware writers
>>and hackers to their computers. Instead of learning basics of new
>>computing they follow the advice of crooks who roam this NG and encourage
>>people to make their job easier.
>>
>>Instead of acknowledging the problem MS should explain to the public what
>>UAC is all about, give statistics and charts.
>>
>
> OK, here's a chart:
>
> Users Frustrated with UAC: --------------------------------------- 90%
> Users Who Turn off UAC: ---------------------------------------- 90%
> Computers Compromised: ------------------------------------------- 100%
> People Who Believe MS Got It
> Wrong: -------------------------------------------- 1000%
> People Who Believe MS Can Create a Secure OS: - .05%
> People Who Believe CNN Has The Best Political Team on TV: Wolf Blitzer
>
> Cheers.
>
Geewiz...it sure does seem like you are a real MS hating POS lying linux
troll?
Is that true?
Frank

The only CROOK that roams the newsgroups is you.

Yes, AlexB, the Racist, the Dictator loving, hater of all unfortunate
souls.....


Everything about you is Crook. The way you think, talk, eat, sleep and the
sh&t you post in here.
Yes, AlexB, you can depend on him to HATE you.... if you are different.

You are a CROOK to human kind. Begone!!!



"AlexB" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Incompetent users and feeble minded folks hate UAC. They cannot appreciate
> the fact that by turning it off they open the gateway for malware writers
> and hackers to their computers. Instead of learning basics of new
> computing they follow the advice of crooks who roam this NG and encourage
> people to make their job easier.
>
> Instead of acknowledging the problem MS should explain to the public what
> UAC is all about, give statistics and charts.
>
> "On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
> news:...
>> http://blogs.computerworld.com/micro...users_hate_uac
>>
>>
>>
>> Here's one of the more intriguing tidbits in the hundreds of pages of
>> emails released as part of the Vista "junk PC" lawsuit: A Microsoft exec
>> freely admits that users are so annoyed with User Account Control (UAC),
>> that they're turning it off en masse.
>>
>> The recently unsealed Microsoft emails are part of the lawsuit against
>> Microsoft for a marketing scheme in which people claim that Microsoft
>> misled consumers into buying the Windows Vista Capable PCs, even though
>> the PCs couldn't run the most important features of Vista.
>>
>> John Kalkman, who admitted in one of the emails that Microsoft launched
>> the Vista Capable PC scheme in order to help Intel meet its quarterly
>> earnings, had this to say about UAC in a February, 2007 email:
>>
>> Biggest thing I'm worried about [concerning Vista uptake] is UAC (user
>> access control). It looks like more and more people are turning off
>> (based on advice from websites) for easier friction free use.
>>
>> By the way, notice that even Microsoft execs can't remember the proper
>> name of this feature -- it's user account control, not user access
>> control.
>>
>> It's nice that Microsoft execs know people hate UAC. But nicer still
>> would be if they would fix it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> What people are REALLY saying about Vista:
>> http://www.microsplot.com/news/2007/..._windows_vista
>>
>> 50 Ways to leave your Vista....
>>
>> CHORUS:
>>
>> You just format the drive , Clive
>> Get a New Mac , Jack
>> Y'don't need that crap toy, Roy
>> Just get yourself free
>> Boot from a *nix, Jix
>> You don't need to discuss much
>> Install XP, Lee
>> And get yourself free
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

UAC is more in your face than Ubuntus pass box.



"Steve Thackery" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Of course they'll hate it, but it's only like the elevation prompts in Mac
> OSX and Linux.
>
> I'm not convinced anything actually needs "fixing".
>
> SteveT

And then the question spins back to: and why are you/other random person
seeing UAC prompts all the time?

It's hard to argue that there are huge problems in the XP world that Vista
addresses via UAC. Many applications assumed they would always have admin
privileges, which makes them non-ideal for a locked down intranet
environment. Tools such as DropMyRights are interesting, but piecemeal.

I think one of the biggest challenges of Vista is that it does a number of
things (including UAC) that encourage better software. It's as if elements
of application verifier were now shipped with Windows. Net net, that's a
really good thing, and XP users benefit too as software quality improves
over time.

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
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"On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
news:47cc3442$...
> UAC is more in your face than Ubuntus pass box.

Frank wrote:

> NoStop wrote:
>> AlexB wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Incompetent users and feeble minded folks hate UAC. They cannot
>>>appreciate the fact that by turning it off they open the gateway for
>>>malware writers and hackers to their computers. Instead of learning
>>>basics of new computing they follow the advice of crooks who roam this NG
>>>and encourage people to make their job easier.
>>>
>>>Instead of acknowledging the problem MS should explain to the public what
>>>UAC is all about, give statistics and charts.
>>>
>>
>> OK, here's a chart:
>>
>> Users Frustrated with UAC: --------------------------------------- 90%
>> Users Who Turn off UAC: ---------------------------------------- 90%
>> Computers Compromised: ------------------------------------------- 100%
>> People Who Believe MS Got It
>> Wrong: -------------------------------------------- 1000%
>> People Who Believe MS Can Create a Secure OS: - .05%
>> People Who Believe CNN Has The Best Political Team on TV: Wolf Blitzer
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
> Geewiz...it sure does seem like you are a real MS hating POS lying linux
> troll?
> Is that true?
> Frank

No. But, I've told you that before numerous times. You seem to have a hard
time taking "No" for an answer. Maybe it would help if you took those meds
your doctor prescribed?

Cheers and LOL!

--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/war...tm/compost.htm

NoStop wrote:

>>Geewiz...it sure does seem like you are a real MS hating POS lying linux
>>troll?
>>Is that true?
>>Frank
>
>
> No.

No! Do you actually think anyone believes you? Oh, I know you don't care
if you lie. We all have seen your "act" many times in this ng.

But, I've told you that before numerous times.

Yeah, you've always lied about that in the past.

You seem to have a hard
> time taking "No" for an answer.

No about what? That you're not a liar or a troll? Your words prove
otherwise.

Maybe it would help if you took those meds
> your doctor prescribed?

Sorry pal, but I take no drugs...neither legal nor illegal. I'm in
excellent health. You however seem to be in a continuous mental state of
delusion and self denial as evidenced by the fact that you are even here.
Frank
>
> yeah, Cheers liar!
>