When is Microsoft going to fix the issue with Routers that do SPI?

Some routers that have stateful packet inspection have an issue with Vista,
Vista is taking five minutes or more to acquire the routers IP address.
Apparently it is caused by SPI in the router and the suggested fix is to
disable SPI. That's if your router allows you to disable SPI. One of the
reasons I bought a router was for SPI so there is no way in hell I am
disabling it. There is no way in hell I am buying a new router to fix it
either. This issie existed in Vista beta and it is still there in the
final. How is this an improved network stack? This is unacceptable so get
off your ass and fix it Microsoft. Please!

On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:55:33 GMT, Pipboy <> spake
thusly:

>This is unacceptable so get off your ass and fix it Microsoft. Please!

You tell 'em boy!
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On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:58:34 GMT, Scott wrote:


> You tell 'em boy!

Hehe..you think thay sat up and took note?

Not that it's a desirable fix if you have a laptop, but if there are just
desktop machines, are you oppose to just giving them a hard coded IP address
? I'm sure I'm the odd man out here, but except for my laptop, all the PCs
(4), Xbox360 and Wii got a hard IP address.

Maybe your router will have to have a firmware update or maybe they will
address it in windows. Hard to say where the problem lies


"Pipboy" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Some routers that have stateful packet inspection have an issue with
> Vista,
> Vista is taking five minutes or more to acquire the routers IP address.
> Apparently it is caused by SPI in the router and the suggested fix is to
> disable SPI. That's if your router allows you to disable SPI. One of the
> reasons I bought a router was for SPI so there is no way in hell I am
> disabling it. There is no way in hell I am buying a new router to fix it
> either. This issie existed in Vista beta and it is still there in the
> final. How is this an improved network stack? This is unacceptable so get
> off your ass and fix it Microsoft. Please!

On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 07:27:08 GMT, Pipboy <> spake
thusly:

>On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:58:34 GMT, Scott wrote:
>
>
>> You tell 'em boy!
>
>Hehe..you think thay sat up and took note?

Quite the opposite, actually......
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Guy's, what is SPI?
stevek

"Dale White" <> wrote in message
news: m...
> Not that it's a desirable fix if you have a laptop, but if there are just
> desktop machines, are you oppose to just giving them a hard coded IP
> address ? I'm sure I'm the odd man out here, but except for my laptop, all
> the PCs (4), Xbox360 and Wii got a hard IP address.
>
> Maybe your router will have to have a firmware update or maybe they will
> address it in windows. Hard to say where the problem lies
>
>
> "Pipboy" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Some routers that have stateful packet inspection have an issue with
>> Vista,
>> Vista is taking five minutes or more to acquire the routers IP address.
>> Apparently it is caused by SPI in the router and the suggested fix is to
>> disable SPI. That's if your router allows you to disable SPI. One of the
>> reasons I bought a router was for SPI so there is no way in hell I am
>> disabling it. There is no way in hell I am buying a new router to fix it
>> either. This issie existed in Vista beta and it is still there in the
>> final. How is this an improved network stack? This is unacceptable so get
>> off your ass and fix it Microsoft. Please!
>
>

"Pipboy" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Some routers that have stateful packet inspection have an issue with
> Vista,
> Vista is taking five minutes or more to acquire the routers IP address.
> Apparently it is caused by SPI in the router and the suggested fix is to
> disable SPI. That's if your router allows you to disable SPI. One of the
> reasons I bought a router was for SPI so there is no way in hell I am
> disabling it. There is no way in hell I am buying a new router to fix it
> either. This issie existed in Vista beta and it is still there in the
> final. How is this an improved network stack? This is unacceptable so get
> off your ass and fix it Microsoft. Please!

In message <> "Steve"
<> wrote:

>Guy's, what is SPI?

Stateful packet inspection.
--
Insert something clever here.

Seriously, have you considered enhancing your current level of security?
simple solution for a simple quandary.

MS has has accomplished their part, regarding enhancing security, the
remainder (enhancing security) is on your end.
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Become Part of The Legacy!



"Pipboy" wrote:

> Some routers that have stateful packet inspection have an issue with Vista,
> Vista is taking five minutes or more to acquire the routers IP address.
> Apparently it is caused by SPI in the router and the suggested fix is to
> disable SPI. That's if your router allows you to disable SPI. One of the
> reasons I bought a router was for SPI so there is no way in hell I am
> disabling it. There is no way in hell I am buying a new router to fix it
> either. This issie existed in Vista beta and it is still there in the
> final. How is this an improved network stack? This is unacceptable so get
> off your ass and fix it Microsoft. Please!
>

Pipboy wrote:
> Some routers that have stateful packet inspection have an issue with Vista,
> Vista is taking five minutes or more to acquire the routers IP address.
> Apparently it is caused by SPI in the router and the suggested fix is to
> disable SPI. That's if your router allows you to disable SPI. One of the
> reasons I bought a router was for SPI so there is no way in hell I am
> disabling it.

That's your choice.

> There is no way in hell I am buying a new router to fix it
> either.

That's your choice.

> This issie existed in Vista beta and it is still there in the
> final.

So it's not a new thing - maybe it's by design?

> How is this an improved network stack? This is unacceptable so get
> off your ass and fix it Microsoft. Please!

Surely it's also your choice to purchase, install and use Vista.

To be honest, I have no idea about the SPI problem - but I suggest you
appear to have 3 options:

1.) Turn off SPI in your current router (if you can)
2.) Buy a new router
3.) Don't use Vista.

It's your choice.

D