Microsoft Update trying to ruin our machines?

Why is Microsoft Update offering Via Primary & Secondary IDE Channel update
to someone who doesn't use VIA?

I inadvertently took it as I was distracted at the time and my machine
immediately became unbootable.
Thank God I managed to get into the F8 menu and pick "Last known good
configuration".

Reference: VIA - Storage - Primary IDE Channel
Date last published: 2/16/2007
VIA Storage software update released in June, 2006
System Requirements
Recommended CPU: Not specified.
Recommended memory: Not specified.
Recommended hard disk space: Not specified.
Get help and support
http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=hub
More information

http://winqual.microsoft.com/support/?driverid=20000477




--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

Hi there,

Never take MS updates for drivers unless you like problems take them from
the manufacturers site IF REALLY NEEDED.

Best regards,
Michel Denie

"Peter" <ex-brit AT rogers DOT com> wrote in message
news:%...
> Why is Microsoft Update offering Via Primary & Secondary IDE Channel
> update to someone who doesn't use VIA?
>
> I inadvertently took it as I was distracted at the time and my machine
> immediately became unbootable.
> Thank God I managed to get into the F8 menu and pick "Last known good
> configuration".
>
> Reference: VIA - Storage - Primary IDE Channel
> Date last published: 2/16/2007
> VIA Storage software update released in June, 2006
> System Requirements
> Recommended CPU: Not specified.
> Recommended memory: Not specified.
> Recommended hard disk space: Not specified.
> Get help and support
> http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=hub
> More information
>
> http://winqual.microsoft.com/support/?driverid=20000477
>
>
>
>
> --
> Peter
> Toronto, Canada
> XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
> P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
> ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
> Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
>
>

And what if they already did?

I've a client who just called me with the same problem...only this idiot had
disabled the System Restore for some reason. Now he has no rollback option.

Anyone know where I can get him a set of older drivers?



"realcestmoi" wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Never take MS updates for drivers unless you like problems take them from
> the manufacturers site IF REALLY NEEDED.
>
> Best regards,
> Michel Denie
>
> "Peter" <ex-brit AT rogers DOT com> wrote in message
> news:%...
> > Why is Microsoft Update offering Via Primary & Secondary IDE Channel
> > update to someone who doesn't use VIA?
> >
> > I inadvertently took it as I was distracted at the time and my machine
> > immediately became unbootable.
> > Thank God I managed to get into the F8 menu and pick "Last known good
> > configuration".
> >
> > Reference: VIA - Storage - Primary IDE Channel
> > Date last published: 2/16/2007
> > VIA Storage software update released in June, 2006
> > System Requirements
> > Recommended CPU: Not specified.
> > Recommended memory: Not specified.
> > Recommended hard disk space: Not specified.
> > Get help and support
> > http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=hub
> > More information
> >
> > http://winqual.microsoft.com/support/?driverid=20000477
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Peter
> > Toronto, Canada
> > XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
> > P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
> > ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
> > Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
> >
> >
>
>
>

Roll back on the driver

Download if needed from the manufacturers website.


"Sean" <> wrote in message
news:B823E218-A04B-4C6B-87A9-...
> And what if they already did?
>
> I've a client who just called me with the same problem...only this idiot
> had
> disabled the System Restore for some reason. Now he has no rollback
> option.
>
> Anyone know where I can get him a set of older drivers?
>
>
>
> "realcestmoi" wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Never take MS updates for drivers unless you like problems take them
>> from
>> the manufacturers site IF REALLY NEEDED.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Michel Denie
>>
>> "Peter" <ex-brit AT rogers DOT com> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>> > Why is Microsoft Update offering Via Primary & Secondary IDE Channel
>> > update to someone who doesn't use VIA?
>> >
>> > I inadvertently took it as I was distracted at the time and my machine
>> > immediately became unbootable.
>> > Thank God I managed to get into the F8 menu and pick "Last known good
>> > configuration".
>> >
>> > Reference: VIA - Storage - Primary IDE Channel
>> > Date last published: 2/16/2007
>> > VIA Storage software update released in June, 2006
>> > System Requirements
>> > Recommended CPU: Not specified.
>> > Recommended memory: Not specified.
>> > Recommended hard disk space: Not specified.
>> > Get help and support
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=hub
>> > More information
>> >
>> > http://winqual.microsoft.com/support/?driverid=20000477
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Peter
>> > Toronto, Canada
>> > XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
>> > P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
>> > ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
>> > Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>

Not what Microsoft says --

Their site says "The best place to start is the Microsoft Windows Update
Web site:
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com (http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com)
Click Scan for updates in the left column, and then click Driver Updates."

and

"If you cannot find the driver that you require on the Windows Update
Web site, you can check your hardware manufacturer's Web site."

and

"Remember that some drivers that are available on manufacturer Web sites
may not have passed Microsoft compatibility testing and might damage
your computer."

I just checked, and MS Update is offering me the "Alps Pointing-device"
for my Dell Dimension 4800 PC. I don't even know what an "Alps" is, let
alone have one.

But I am not an IDIOT -- I would never install a MS offered driver on my
computer. BECAUSE I RUINED MY WINDOWS 98 COMPUTER THAT WAY. (Shouting
intentional).

Jim



realcestmoi wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Never take MS updates for drivers unless you like problems take them from
> the manufacturers site IF REALLY NEEDED.
>
> Best regards,
> Michel Denie

Rollback didn't work, nor did downloading and installing the original drivers.

Is there any way to determine the exact file names and registry entries that
the VIA IDE update put in? I can walk through and manually remove them, and
allow it to only find the ones I provide if i know what these defective ones
are.



"realcestmoi" wrote:

> Roll back on the driver
>
> Download if needed from the manufacturers website.
>
>
> "Sean" <> wrote in message
> news:B823E218-A04B-4C6B-87A9-...
> > And what if they already did?
> >
> > I've a client who just called me with the same problem...only this idiot
> > had
> > disabled the System Restore for some reason. Now he has no rollback
> > option.
> >
> > Anyone know where I can get him a set of older drivers?
> >
> >
> >
> > "realcestmoi" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >> Never take MS updates for drivers unless you like problems take them
> >> from
> >> the manufacturers site IF REALLY NEEDED.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Michel Denie
> >>
> >> "Peter" <ex-brit AT rogers DOT com> wrote in message
> >> news:%...
> >> > Why is Microsoft Update offering Via Primary & Secondary IDE Channel
> >> > update to someone who doesn't use VIA?
> >> >
> >> > I inadvertently took it as I was distracted at the time and my machine
> >> > immediately became unbootable.
> >> > Thank God I managed to get into the F8 menu and pick "Last known good
> >> > configuration".
> >> >
> >> > Reference: VIA - Storage - Primary IDE Channel
> >> > Date last published: 2/16/2007
> >> > VIA Storage software update released in June, 2006
> >> > System Requirements
> >> > Recommended CPU: Not specified.
> >> > Recommended memory: Not specified.
> >> > Recommended hard disk space: Not specified.
> >> > Get help and support
> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=hub
> >> > More information
> >> >
> >> > http://winqual.microsoft.com/support/?driverid=20000477
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Peter
> >> > Toronto, Canada
> >> > XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
> >> > P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
> >> > ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
> >> > Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Remove the windows update Via driver from the installed software list or run
system restore choose a date before the error occured if possible.


"Sean" <> wrote in message
news:39C2BCBE-87AE-45B9-A203-...
> Rollback didn't work, nor did downloading and installing the original
> drivers.
>
> Is there any way to determine the exact file names and registry entries
> that
> the VIA IDE update put in? I can walk through and manually remove them,
> and
> allow it to only find the ones I provide if i know what these defective
> ones
> are.
>
>
>
> "realcestmoi" wrote:
>
>> Roll back on the driver
>>
>> Download if needed from the manufacturers website.
>>
>>
>> "Sean" <> wrote in message
>> news:B823E218-A04B-4C6B-87A9-...
>> > And what if they already did?
>> >
>> > I've a client who just called me with the same problem...only this
>> > idiot
>> > had
>> > disabled the System Restore for some reason. Now he has no rollback
>> > option.
>> >
>> > Anyone know where I can get him a set of older drivers?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "realcestmoi" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi there,
>> >>
>> >> Never take MS updates for drivers unless you like problems take them
>> >> from
>> >> the manufacturers site IF REALLY NEEDED.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Michel Denie
>> >>
>> >> "Peter" <ex-brit AT rogers DOT com> wrote in message
>> >> news:%...
>> >> > Why is Microsoft Update offering Via Primary & Secondary IDE Channel
>> >> > update to someone who doesn't use VIA?
>> >> >
>> >> > I inadvertently took it as I was distracted at the time and my
>> >> > machine
>> >> > immediately became unbootable.
>> >> > Thank God I managed to get into the F8 menu and pick "Last known
>> >> > good
>> >> > configuration".
>> >> >
>> >> > Reference: VIA - Storage - Primary IDE Channel
>> >> > Date last published: 2/16/2007
>> >> > VIA Storage software update released in June, 2006
>> >> > System Requirements
>> >> > Recommended CPU: Not specified.
>> >> > Recommended memory: Not specified.
>> >> > Recommended hard disk space: Not specified.
>> >> > Get help and support
>> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=hub
>> >> > More information
>> >> >
>> >> > http://winqual.microsoft.com/support/?driverid=20000477
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Peter
>> >> > Toronto, Canada
>> >> > XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
>> >> > P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
>> >> > ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
>> >> > Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Do you even read the posts before you reply, or do you just reply to hear
yourself talk?

As I stated earlier, the System Restore option had been disabled.

You know, you really aren't much help. All you seem to do is go around
telling people they shouldn't have done what they did, and to read other
posts for solutions.

If you aren't going to contribute to the solutions, stop wasting our time.

Do you get some sort of prize for a big post count or something?

"realcestmoi" wrote:

> Remove the windows update Via driver from the installed software list or run
> system restore choose a date before the error occured if possible.
>
>
> "Sean" <> wrote in message
> news:39C2BCBE-87AE-45B9-A203-...
> > Rollback didn't work, nor did downloading and installing the original
> > drivers.
> >
> > Is there any way to determine the exact file names and registry entries
> > that
> > the VIA IDE update put in? I can walk through and manually remove them,
> > and
> > allow it to only find the ones I provide if i know what these defective
> > ones
> > are.
> >
> >
> >
> > "realcestmoi" wrote:
> >
> >> Roll back on the driver
> >>
> >> Download if needed from the manufacturers website.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Sean" <> wrote in message
> >> news:B823E218-A04B-4C6B-87A9-...
> >> > And what if they already did?
> >> >
> >> > I've a client who just called me with the same problem...only this
> >> > idiot
> >> > had
> >> > disabled the System Restore for some reason. Now he has no rollback
> >> > option.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone know where I can get him a set of older drivers?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "realcestmoi" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi there,
> >> >>
> >> >> Never take MS updates for drivers unless you like problems take them
> >> >> from
> >> >> the manufacturers site IF REALLY NEEDED.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best regards,
> >> >> Michel Denie
> >> >>
> >> >> "Peter" <ex-brit AT rogers DOT com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:%...
> >> >> > Why is Microsoft Update offering Via Primary & Secondary IDE Channel
> >> >> > update to someone who doesn't use VIA?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I inadvertently took it as I was distracted at the time and my
> >> >> > machine
> >> >> > immediately became unbootable.
> >> >> > Thank God I managed to get into the F8 menu and pick "Last known
> >> >> > good
> >> >> > configuration".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Reference: VIA - Storage - Primary IDE Channel
> >> >> > Date last published: 2/16/2007
> >> >> > VIA Storage software update released in June, 2006
> >> >> > System Requirements
> >> >> > Recommended CPU: Not specified.
> >> >> > Recommended memory: Not specified.
> >> >> > Recommended hard disk space: Not specified.
> >> >> > Get help and support
> >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=hub
> >> >> > More information
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://winqual.microsoft.com/support/?driverid=20000477
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Peter
> >> >> > Toronto, Canada
> >> >> > XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
> >> >> > P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
> >> >> > ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
> >> >> > Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

See my last post under "DAY 2 OF The VIA Nightware Still Tons IF Dead
Laptops ..."
"Sean" wrote:

> Rollback didn't work, nor did downloading and installing the original drivers.
>
> Is there any way to determine the exact file names and registry entries that
> the VIA IDE update put in? I can walk through and manually remove them, and
> allow it to only find the ones I provide if i know what these defective ones
> are.
>
>
>
> "realcestmoi" wrote:
>
> > Roll back on the driver
> >
> > Download if needed from the manufacturers website.
> >
> >
> > "Sean" <> wrote in message
> > news:B823E218-A04B-4C6B-87A9-...
> > > And what if they already did?
> > >
> > > I've a client who just called me with the same problem...only this idiot
> > > had
> > > disabled the System Restore for some reason. Now he has no rollback
> > > option.
> > >
> > > Anyone know where I can get him a set of older drivers?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "realcestmoi" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi there,
> > >>
> > >> Never take MS updates for drivers unless you like problems take them
> > >> from
> > >> the manufacturers site IF REALLY NEEDED.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> Michel Denie
> > >>
> > >> "Peter" <ex-brit AT rogers DOT com> wrote in message
> > >> news:%...
> > >> > Why is Microsoft Update offering Via Primary & Secondary IDE Channel
> > >> > update to someone who doesn't use VIA?
> > >> >
> > >> > I inadvertently took it as I was distracted at the time and my machine
> > >> > immediately became unbootable.
> > >> > Thank God I managed to get into the F8 menu and pick "Last known good
> > >> > configuration".
> > >> >
> > >> > Reference: VIA - Storage - Primary IDE Channel
> > >> > Date last published: 2/16/2007
> > >> > VIA Storage software update released in June, 2006
> > >> > System Requirements
> > >> > Recommended CPU: Not specified.
> > >> > Recommended memory: Not specified.
> > >> > Recommended hard disk space: Not specified.
> > >> > Get help and support
> > >> > http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=hub
> > >> > More information
> > >> >
> > >> > http://winqual.microsoft.com/support/?driverid=20000477
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Peter
> > >> > Toronto, Canada
> > >> > XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
> > >> > P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
> > >> > ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
> > >> > Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >

If you take your own advice and read you could trying to remove the update
under installed software, without wasting my time.

I do not get paid or get bonusses, just putting some valued time in trying
to help people and no no need to say thanks for trying.

You could use a driver cleaner and remove the audio drivers for via.

So hope you read better this time and stop pretending like you know it all
so well, if that was the fact you would have solved the problem yourself i
guess.


"Sean" <> wrote in message
news:8EBB1ED7-5872-412D-95AA-...
> Do you even read the posts before you reply, or do you just reply to hear
> yourself talk?
>
> As I stated earlier, the System Restore option had been disabled.
>
> You know, you really aren't much help. All you seem to do is go around
> telling people they shouldn't have done what they did, and to read other
> posts for solutions.
>
> If you aren't going to contribute to the solutions, stop wasting our time.
>
> Do you get some sort of prize for a big post count or something?
>
> "realcestmoi" wrote:
>
>> Remove the windows update Via driver from the installed software list or
>> run
>> system restore choose a date before the error occured if possible.
>>
>>
>> "Sean" <> wrote in message
>> news:39C2BCBE-87AE-45B9-A203-...
>> > Rollback didn't work, nor did downloading and installing the original
>> > drivers.
>> >
>> > Is there any way to determine the exact file names and registry entries
>> > that
>> > the VIA IDE update put in? I can walk through and manually remove them,
>> > and
>> > allow it to only find the ones I provide if i know what these defective
>> > ones
>> > are.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "realcestmoi" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Roll back on the driver
>> >>
>> >> Download if needed from the manufacturers website.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Sean" <> wrote in message
>> >> news:B823E218-A04B-4C6B-87A9-...
>> >> > And what if they already did?
>> >> >
>> >> > I've a client who just called me with the same problem...only this
>> >> > idiot
>> >> > had
>> >> > disabled the System Restore for some reason. Now he has no rollback
>> >> > option.
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyone know where I can get him a set of older drivers?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "realcestmoi" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi there,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Never take MS updates for drivers unless you like problems take
>> >> >> them
>> >> >> from
>> >> >> the manufacturers site IF REALLY NEEDED.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best regards,
>> >> >> Michel Denie
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Peter" <ex-brit AT rogers DOT com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:%...
>> >> >> > Why is Microsoft Update offering Via Primary & Secondary IDE
>> >> >> > Channel
>> >> >> > update to someone who doesn't use VIA?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I inadvertently took it as I was distracted at the time and my
>> >> >> > machine
>> >> >> > immediately became unbootable.
>> >> >> > Thank God I managed to get into the F8 menu and pick "Last known
>> >> >> > good
>> >> >> > configuration".
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Reference: VIA - Storage - Primary IDE Channel
>> >> >> > Date last published: 2/16/2007
>> >> >> > VIA Storage software update released in June, 2006
>> >> >> > System Requirements
>> >> >> > Recommended CPU: Not specified.
>> >> >> > Recommended memory: Not specified.
>> >> >> > Recommended hard disk space: Not specified.
>> >> >> > Get help and support
>> >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=hub
>> >> >> > More information
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://winqual.microsoft.com/support/?driverid=20000477
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Peter
>> >> >> > Toronto, Canada
>> >> >> > XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
>> >> >> > P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
>> >> >> > ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
>> >> >> > Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>