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michellestorm
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      07-14-2009
I just bought a "new" computer (IBM Thinkpad R40, windows vista) and in the
last two days it has installed almost 200 updates, it takes hours every time
and when i start it up later it starts acting up, configuring updates it says
and then one of the updates wont answer so it dies, sometimes it just wont
start at all, sometimes it says something about windows wont start, trying to
restore the computer to the point when it was actually working, all this
started when i got internet and all the updates came, before that, no
problem. When i finally get it to start up it works fine.
What should i do?? Help,
 
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      07-14-2009
Please state your full Windows version (e.g., Vista SP1; Vista x64 SP2) when
posting to this newsgroup.

Assuming it's a brand-new (vs. used/new-to-you) computer and SP2 has not
been installed yet...

Free unlimited installation and compatibility support is available for
Windows Vista, but only for Service Pack 2 (SP2). This support for Windows
Vista Service Pack 2 (SP2) is valid until November 26, 2009. Availability of
chat or e-mail support differs depending on your geographic location. Go to
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...4&gprid=582034 &
select appropriate category (e.g., Installation).

Description of the Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008 installation
software feature update released April 28, 2009:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/955430

================================================== ==========

Installation Tips:

• Your computer will restart several times during the installation process:
Make certain you've saved your work and closed all open applications before
beginning the install.

• Disable (1) your anti-virus application, (2) any real-time system
protections afforded by any anti-spyware applications (except Defender), &
(3) your third-party firewall (if any) and then (4) enable the Windows
Firewall _before installing or uninstalling_ Vista SP2.

• The installation process can take an hour or more: If you're installing
SP2 on a portable computer, make sure that you plug-in the power cord and
have the battery inserted into its bay.

• Vista SP1 is a prerequisite for installing SP2. If you use Windows Update
or the Automatic Update feature in Windows Vista, you will not be offered
the option to install SP2 until you first install SP1.

================================================== ============

HOW TO install SP2 manually

<QP>
Generally, these errors can occur if the system files are corrupted.

To make clear the current situation, I recommend downloading Windows Vista
Service Pack 2] in Normal Mode and installing it in Clean Boot Mode. Please
follow the steps below.

Note: This SP2 installation can be affected by certain third party programs
running in the background. If you are running any third party applications
such as Spyblocker, Internet or web accelerators (programs designed to boost
the speed of the Internet connection), security or anti-virus programs
(McAfee, Norton, etc.), I recommend we temporarily disable or shut them down
during our troubleshooting process. Please be sure to enable them again when
the update process has been completed.

Step 1: Download Windows Vista Service Pack 2 Standalone Installer
================================================== =
1. Download Windows Vista SP2 from the link below according to your System
Type:

....Windows Vista Service Pack 2 - Five Language Standalone for x32-based
systems (Size: 348.3 MB)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...2-a5c3199ea2b3

....Windows Vista Service Pack 2 - Five Language Standalone for x64-based
systems (Size: 577.4MB)
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...-X64-wave0.exe

2. Save the download to your desktop, do not Run it!

Step 2: Install Windows Vista SP2 in Clean Boot mode
========================================
Please disable all startup items and third party services when booting to
avoid conflict when installing Vista SP1:

1. Click "Start", type: MSCONFIG in the search box and press Enter.

Note: Please click "Continue" if the "User Account Control" window pops up.

2. Click "Services", check the "Hide All Microsoft Services" box and click
"Disable All" (if it is not gray).
3. Click "Startup", click "Disable All" and click "OK".

Note: Temporarily disabling the Startup Group only prevents the startup
programs from loading at startup. This shouldn't affect the system or other
programs. We can manually run these programs later. Go ahead and reboot your
system when prompted as you are exiting MsConfig.

4. After rebooting, right-click on the downloaded Windows Vista Service Pack
2 Standalone Installer, select "Run as Administrator" (if necessary) and
follow the instructions to install Windows Vista SP2.

To restore the computer to use a Normal Startup, repeat step 1 above. Then
click "Normal Startup" on the General tab, click "OK", and then restart the
computer.
</QP>
Modified from original MS Support source as quoted in
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...-fb58c5da5ad0/
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


michellestorm wrote:
> I just bought a "new" computer (IBM Thinkpad R40, windows vista) and in
> the
> last two days it has installed almost 200 updates, it takes hours every
> time
> and when i start it up later it starts acting up, configuring updates it
> says and then one of the updates wont answer so it dies, sometimes it just
> wont start at all, sometimes it says something about windows wont start,
> trying to restore the computer to the point when it was actually working,
> all this started when i got internet and all the updates came, before
> that,
> no problem. When i finally get it to start up it works fine.
> What should i do?? Help,


 
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      07-14-2009
michellestorm wrote:

> I just bought a "new" computer (IBM Thinkpad R40, windows vista) and in the
> last two days it has installed almost 200 updates, it takes hours every time
> and when i start it up later it starts acting up, configuring updates it says
> and then one of the updates wont answer so it dies, sometimes it just wont
> start at all, sometimes it says something about windows wont start, trying to
> restore the computer to the point when it was actually working, all this
> started when i got internet and all the updates came, before that, no
> problem. When i finally get it to start up it works fine.
> What should i do?? Help,


Define "new". If the laptop is under warranty, then contact the
manufacturer. If it is not, then suggest you format the Hard Drive and
reinstall Vista then install Vista SP1 and SP2.

First step is to download both Service Packs and save them to an
external Hard Drive or a USB thumb drive -

Download and save Vista Service Pack 1 x86(32bit):
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...9-cb3d06d12674

Do the same for Vista SP2 x86 (32bit):
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...2-a5c3199ea2b3

DISCONNECT they system from the internet.
Install Vista.
Then install Vista SP 1 with all of the required rebooting being done.
Then install Vista SP2, again, doing all of the required rebooting.
This will negate the need to install most of the updates.

Now connect the system to the internet and Activate the copy of Vista.

Then install all of the ***reliability and performance updates first***.
Then install all of the Security updates that are left.

Now install an antivirus.
You're done.

MowGreen [aka Mr. 7 ! }
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============
 
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      07-14-2009


"MowGreen" wrote:

> michellestorm wrote:
>
> > I just bought a "new" computer (IBM Thinkpad R40, windows vista) and in the
> > last two days it has installed almost 200 updates, it takes hours every time
> > and when i start it up later it starts acting up, configuring updates it says
> > and then one of the updates wont answer so it dies, sometimes it just wont
> > start at all, sometimes it says something about windows wont start, trying to
> > restore the computer to the point when it was actually working, all this
> > started when i got internet and all the updates came, before that, no
> > problem. When i finally get it to start up it works fine.
> > What should i do?? Help,


Sorry, my bad, it's not new, its very old i think (as u might have guessed
'm no compouterwiz) I have no idea what SP I have if i even have one, i
bought it like it is, no cds no papers no nothing.
>
> Define "new". If the laptop is under warranty, then contact the
> manufacturer. If it is not, then suggest you format the Hard Drive and
> reinstall Vista then install Vista SP1 and SP2.
>
> First step is to download both Service Packs and save them to an
> external Hard Drive or a USB thumb drive -
>
> Download and save Vista Service Pack 1 x86(32bit):
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...9-cb3d06d12674
>
> Do the same for Vista SP2 x86 (32bit):
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...2-a5c3199ea2b3
>
> DISCONNECT they system from the internet.
> Install Vista.
> Then install Vista SP 1 with all of the required rebooting being done.
> Then install Vista SP2, again, doing all of the required rebooting.
> This will negate the need to install most of the updates.
>
> Now connect the system to the internet and Activate the copy of Vista.
>
> Then install all of the ***reliability and performance updates first***.
> Then install all of the Security updates that are left.
>
> Now install an antivirus.
> You're done.
>
> MowGreen [aka Mr. 7 ! }
> ===============
> *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ===============
>

 
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      07-14-2009


"michellestorm" wrote:

> I just bought a "new" computer (IBM Thinkpad R40, windows vista) and in the
> last two days it has installed almost 200 updates, it takes hours every time
> and when i start it up later it starts acting up, configuring updates it says
> and then one of the updates wont answer so it dies, sometimes it just wont
> start at all, sometimes it says something about windows wont start, trying to
> restore the computer to the point when it was actually working, all this
> started when i got internet and all the updates came, before that, no
> problem. When i finally get it to start up it works fine.
> What should i do?? Help,


I guess i messed up, but how do i check wich kind i have? I'm really off
base here and i appreciate all the help i can get.
 
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      07-14-2009


michellestorm wrote:
> "MowGreen" wrote:
>
>> michellestorm wrote:
>>
>>> I just bought a "new" computer (IBM Thinkpad R40, windows vista) and in
>>> the last two days it has installed almost 200 updates, it takes hours
>>> every time and when i start it up later it starts acting up, configuring
>>> updates it says and then one of the updates wont answer so it dies,
>>> sometimes it just wont start at all, sometimes it says something about
>>> windows wont start, trying to restore the computer to the point when it
>>> was actually working, all this started when i got internet and all the
>>> updates came, before that, no problem. When i finally get it to start up
>>> it works fine.
>>> What should i do?? Help,

>
>> Define "new". If the laptop is under warranty, then contact the
>> manufacturer. If it is not, then suggest you format the Hard Drive and
>> reinstall Vista then install Vista SP1 and SP2.
>>
>> First step is to download both Service Packs and save them to an
>> external Hard Drive or a USB thumb drive -
>>
>> Download and save Vista Service Pack 1 x86(32bit):
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...9-cb3d06d12674
>>
>> Do the same for Vista SP2 x86 (32bit):
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...2-a5c3199ea2b3
>>
>> DISCONNECT they system from the internet.
>> Install Vista.
>> Then install Vista SP 1 with all of the required rebooting being done.
>> Then install Vista SP2, again, doing all of the required rebooting.
>> This will negate the need to install most of the updates.
>>
>> Now connect the system to the internet and Activate the copy of Vista.
>>
>> Then install all of the ***reliability and performance updates first***.
>> Then install all of the Security updates that are left.
>>
>> Now install an antivirus.
>> You're done.

>
> Sorry, my bad, it's not new, its very old i think (as u might have guessed
> 'm no compouterwiz) I have no idea what SP I have if i even have one, i
> bought it like it is, no cds no papers no nothing.


<kibbitz>

Backup any of YOUR personal data, then do a format & clean install of
Windows. Please note that a Repair Install (AKA in-place upgrade) will NOT
fix this!

NB: If the computer doesn't have a hidden Recovery partition, you're out of
luck and it is not safe for you to use this computer in its current state.

After the clean install, you'll have the equivalent of a "new computer" so
take care of everything on the following page before otherwise connecting
the machine to the internet or a network and before using a USB key that
isn't brand-new or hasn't been freshly formatted:

5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
http://www.microsoft.com/protect/com...nced/xppc.mspx

HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully patched
(after a clean install)
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...5afa8ed33e121c

HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP1(a) or SP2 fully patched (after a
clean install)
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...66ae41add7dd2b

Also see:

Steps To Help Prevent Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/protect/com...e/prevent.mspx

Rogue Security Software - Microsoft Security:
http://www.microsoft.com/protect/com...ses/rogue.mspx

</kibbitz>
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~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

 
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      07-14-2009

Please list all of the "millions" of updates.
We'll wait.

"michellestorm" <> wrote in message
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:I just bought a "new" computer (IBM Thinkpad R40, windows vista) and in the
: last two days it has installed almost 200 updates, it takes hours every
time
: and when i start it up later it starts acting up, configuring updates it
says
: and then one of the updates wont answer so it dies, sometimes it just wont
: start at all, sometimes it says something about windows wont start, trying
to
: restore the computer to the point when it was actually working, all this
: started when i got internet and all the updates came, before that, no
: problem. When i finally get it to start up it works fine.
: What should i do?? Help,


 
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      07-14-2009


"michellestorm" <> wrote in message
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:
: :
: I guess i messed up, but how do i check wich kind i have? I'm really off
: base here and i appreciate all the help i can get.

Which kind of what?


 
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michellestorm
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      07-14-2009
I have no idea if i have a recoverypartion on it, and i have no vistacds
either, i do have a couple of XP cds, is it possible to install XP instead, i
have never used vista before and i quite liked xp. it says on the computer
that it is designed for XP but someone probably decided to switch to vista
somewhere along the road, i have heard some people having trouble switching
between them. thanks for the help guys, I'm not to good at computers AND i'm
from sweden, does it get much worse? :/

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>
>
> michellestorm wrote:
> > "MowGreen" wrote:
> >
> >> michellestorm wrote:
> >>
> >>> I just bought a "new" computer (IBM Thinkpad R40, windows vista) and in
> >>> the last two days it has installed almost 200 updates, it takes hours
> >>> every time and when i start it up later it starts acting up, configuring
> >>> updates it says and then one of the updates wont answer so it dies,
> >>> sometimes it just wont start at all, sometimes it says something about
> >>> windows wont start, trying to restore the computer to the point when it
> >>> was actually working, all this started when i got internet and all the
> >>> updates came, before that, no problem. When i finally get it to start up
> >>> it works fine.
> >>> What should i do?? Help,

> >
> >> Define "new". If the laptop is under warranty, then contact the
> >> manufacturer. If it is not, then suggest you format the Hard Drive and
> >> reinstall Vista then install Vista SP1 and SP2.
> >>
> >> First step is to download both Service Packs and save them to an
> >> external Hard Drive or a USB thumb drive -
> >>
> >> Download and save Vista Service Pack 1 x86(32bit):
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...9-cb3d06d12674
> >>
> >> Do the same for Vista SP2 x86 (32bit):
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...2-a5c3199ea2b3
> >>
> >> DISCONNECT they system from the internet.
> >> Install Vista.
> >> Then install Vista SP 1 with all of the required rebooting being done.
> >> Then install Vista SP2, again, doing all of the required rebooting.
> >> This will negate the need to install most of the updates.
> >>
> >> Now connect the system to the internet and Activate the copy of Vista.
> >>
> >> Then install all of the ***reliability and performance updates first***.
> >> Then install all of the Security updates that are left.
> >>
> >> Now install an antivirus.
> >> You're done.

> >
> > Sorry, my bad, it's not new, its very old i think (as u might have guessed
> > 'm no compouterwiz) I have no idea what SP I have if i even have one, i
> > bought it like it is, no cds no papers no nothing.

>
> <kibbitz>
>
> Backup any of YOUR personal data, then do a format & clean install of
> Windows. Please note that a Repair Install (AKA in-place upgrade) will NOT
> fix this!
>
> NB: If the computer doesn't have a hidden Recovery partition, you're out of
> luck and it is not safe for you to use this computer in its current state.
>
> After the clean install, you'll have the equivalent of a "new computer" so
> take care of everything on the following page before otherwise connecting
> the machine to the internet or a network and before using a USB key that
> isn't brand-new or hasn't been freshly formatted:
>
> 5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/com...nced/xppc.mspx
>
> HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully patched
> (after a clean install)
> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...5afa8ed33e121c
>
> HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP1(a) or SP2 fully patched (after a
> clean install)
> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...66ae41add7dd2b
>
> Also see:
>
> Steps To Help Prevent Spyware
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/com...e/prevent.mspx
>
> Rogue Security Software - Microsoft Security:
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/com...ses/rogue.mspx
>
> </kibbitz>
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>
>

 
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      07-14-2009
sorry :P ServicePack

"Tom Willett" wrote:

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> "michellestorm" <> wrote in message
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> :
> : :
> : I guess i messed up, but how do i check wich kind i have? I'm really off
> : base here and i appreciate all the help i can get.
>
> Which kind of what?
>
>
>

 
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