Missing Angle Brackets

Since I upgraded to Windows Live 2011 those angle brackets in my
newsgroup replies have disappeared, while other people's show.
How can I bring them back?

Harry.

You can't bring these (>) back. MS did away with them in WLMail 2011. If
you see them in other peoples posts, they're not using WLMail 2011 as a
newsreader.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA


"webster72n" <> wrote in message
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> Since I upgraded to Windows Live 2011 those angle brackets in my
> newsgroup replies have disappeared, while other people's show.
> How can I bring them back?
>
> Harry.

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
news:ic9af6$c2o$...

You can't bring these (>) back. MS did away with them in WLMail 2011. If
you see them in other peoples posts, they're not using WLMail 2011 as a
newsreader.

That's fine, Bruce, but how do I distinguish my answer from the previous
post(s)?
I've tried moving to the right 5 spaces or so.
But sometimes I forget.
Is there another solution? <H>.

--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA


"webster72n" <> wrote in message
news:ic9a77$ruj$...
> Since I upgraded to Windows Live 2011 those angle brackets in my
> newsgroup replies have disappeared, while other people's show.
> How can I bring them back?
>
> Harry.

"webster72n" <> wrote in message
news:ic9b57$vt4$...
>
>
> "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
> news:ic9af6$c2o$...
>
> You can't bring these (>) back. MS did away with them in WLMail 2011. If
> you see them in other peoples posts, they're not using WLMail 2011 as a
> newsreader.
>
> That's fine, Bruce, but how do I distinguish my answer from the previous
> post(s)?
> I've tried moving to the right 5 spaces or so.
> But sometimes I forget.
> Is there another solution? <H>.
>


You'll just have to get in the habit of inserting a spearator of your own.
Something like a hyphen line.
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Or use a different program for news. FWIW, I didn't use WLMail for news at
all since the option to automatically get new news posts when checking for
e-mail every XX minutes was not continued. This is a Win7 machine and I
use Vista's Windows Mail for news, and Thunderbird for mail.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA





> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "webster72n" <> wrote in message
> news:ic9a77$ruj$...
>> Since I upgraded to Windows Live 2011 those angle brackets in my
>> newsgroup replies have disappeared, while other people's show.
>> How can I bring them back?
>>
>> Harry.
>

"Bruce Hagen" <> wrote in message
news:ic9c52$lpn$...
>
> "webster72n" <> wrote in message
> news:ic9b57$vt4$...
>>
>>
>> "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
>> news:ic9af6$c2o$...
>>
>> You can't bring these (>) back. MS did away with them in WLMail 2011. If
>> you see them in other peoples posts, they're not using WLMail 2011 as a
>> newsreader.
>>
>> That's fine, Bruce, but how do I distinguish my answer from the previous
>> post(s)?
>> I've tried moving to the right 5 spaces or so.
>> But sometimes I forget.
>> Is there another solution? <H>.
>>
>
>
> You'll just have to get in the habit of inserting a spearator of your own.
> Something like a hyphen line.
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Or use a different program for news. FWIW, I didn't use WLMail for news at
> all since the option to automatically get new news posts when checking for
> e-mail every XX minutes was not continued. This is a Win7 machine and I
> use Vista's Windows Mail for news, and Thunderbird for mail.
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ \_\_\_

be lbh pbhyq cbfg va EBG13 (or you could post in ROT13)

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>
>
>> --
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>>
>> "webster72n" <> wrote in message
>> news:ic9a77$ruj$...
>>> Since I upgraded to Windows Live 2011 those angle brackets in my
>>> newsgroup replies have disappeared, while other people's show.
>>> How can I bring them back?
>>>
>>> Harry.
>>
>
>

"Magnus" <> wrote in message
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>
> \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ \_\_\_
>
> be lbh pbhyq cbfg va EBG13 (or you could post in ROT13)
>
> \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ \_\_\_
>
>>



EBSY
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA








>>
>>> --
>>> Bruce Hagen
>>> MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>
>>>
>>> "webster72n" <> wrote in message
>>> news:ic9a77$ruj$...
>>>> Since I upgraded to Windows Live 2011 those angle brackets in my
>>>> newsgroup replies have disappeared, while other people's show.
>>>> How can I bring them back?
>>>>
>>>> Harry.
>>>
>>
>>
>

This situation is where top posting becomes preferred.
It's hard to mistake that this is the new text, as opposed to what follows.

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
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"webster72n" wrote in message news:ic9b57$vt4$...

That's fine, Bruce, but how do I distinguish my answer from the previous
post(s)?
I've tried moving to the right 5 spaces or so.
But sometimes I forget.
Is there another solution? <H>.

webster72n wrote:

> Bruce Hagen wrote ...
>
>> You can't bring these (>) back. MS did away with them in WLMail 2011.
>> If you see them in other peoples posts, they're not using WLMail
>> 2011 as a newsreader.
>
> That's fine, Bruce, but how do I distinguish my answer from the
> previous post(s)? I've tried moving to the right 5 spaces or so. But
> sometimes I forget. Is there another solution?

Go back to WLM 2010 (version 14), if you can find it from a place you
trust. Or remember to do your own insertion of ">" for proper indenting
of the quoted content (and watch the line length stays under 76 or 72
characters in length). Or use a different newsreader. Or wait until
and *if* Microsoft decides to provide an update to v15. Or wait until
the 2012 version to reinstate what Microsoft had in the v15 beta but
dropped in the v15 release.

From my reading, it isn't just newsgroup posts but also e-mail posts.
Microsoft screwed up by removing the quoting when using plain-text
format for your replies. If HTML is used then the DIV tag is used to
provide the vertical bar to show indentation of quoted content. That's
okay for e-mails by going to HTML format but not for Usenet where it is
considered rude to use HTML format (i.e., use plain text in Usenet).

On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:47:44 -0800, Bruce Hagen wrote:

> This is a Win7 machine and I use Vista's Windows Mail for news, and
> Thunderbird for mail.

Some of us went straight from Windows XP to Windows 7, bypassing Windows
Vista, and missing Windows Mail. I use 40tude Dialog for news, and Pegasus
Mail for email.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

"N. Miller" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:47:44 -0800, Bruce Hagen wrote:
>
>> This is a Win7 machine and I use Vista's Windows Mail for news, and
>> Thunderbird for mail.
>
> Some of us went straight from Windows XP to Windows 7, bypassing Windows
> Vista, and missing Windows Mail. I use 40tude Dialog for news, and
> Pegasus
> Mail for email.
>
> --
> Norman
> ~Oh Lord, why have you come
> ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum



I did too. I just snatched a msoe.dll file off a friend's Vista machine.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA