Modal messages interfere with remote control?

If a modal message comes onscreen in my remote computer,
I lose control of that remote computer.

....because some person would have to "dismiss" the
modal message, but that can't happen because the remote
computer is unattended.

Is there any way for me to regain control of the remote PC?


I do not think that ANY remote control app' can handle modal
windows, but I might be wrong about that.

(Windows Vista on both computers, Windows Timbuktu 8.6.0
as the remote control application)

Mark-

It is my gut feeling that if you are using remote desktop and have
administrative privileges on the other machine a copy of that modal message
should appear at your desktop to take action.

Again, it is just a wild guess.

"Mark Conrad" <> wrote in message
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>
> If a modal message comes onscreen in my remote computer,
> I lose control of that remote computer.
>
> ...because some person would have to "dismiss" the
> modal message, but that can't happen because the remote
> computer is unattended.
>
> Is there any way for me to regain control of the remote PC?
>
>
> I do not think that ANY remote control app' can handle modal
> windows, but I might be wrong about that.
>
> (Windows Vista on both computers, Windows Timbuktu 8.6.0
> as the remote control application)
>
> Mark-

"Mark Conrad" <> wrote in message
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>
> If a modal message comes onscreen in my remote computer,
> I lose control of that remote computer.
>
> ...because some person would have to "dismiss" the
> modal message, but that can't happen because the remote
> computer is unattended.
>
> Is there any way for me to regain control of the remote PC?
>
>
> I do not think that ANY remote control app' can handle modal
> windows, but I might be wrong about that.
>
> (Windows Vista on both computers, Windows Timbuktu 8.6.0
> as the remote control application)


What modal message?

You never need to install a keyboard, mouse or monitor on a computer that
you can access through Remote Desktop, so I do not know what you are talking
about. Try using Remote Desktop or VNC if this Windows Timbuktu is causing
your problems like that.

My server runs Windows 2003 Server Standard, and almost never has a
keyboard, mouse or monitor connected to it. This is what is called a
headless server.

ss.

Thanks, I am desperate, will check it out.

With Timbuktu, there is no trace of the modal message
on the controlling computer.

There is no way I know of with Timbuktu of regaining
control of the remote computer that has the modal
message on its screen.

(other than having a on-site person manually click on
the buttons in the modal window)

Only way I can keep remote control operating is to be
extremely careful to avoid doing anything that will
cause a modal message to be displayed onscreen.


I have not tried the remote control app' "GoToMyPC"
yet either, to see if it would be stopped dead in its
tracks like Timbuktu.

Perhaps others who have used GoToMyPC can comment on
whether it has the same drawback.

Does "remote desktop" display an actual image of the
remote computers screen? I need that for photos,
video clips, and other graphics.

Mark-




In article <#>,
"AlexB" <> wrote:

> It is my gut feeling that if you are using remote desktop and have
> administrative privileges on the other machine a copy of that modal message
> should appear at your desktop to take action.
>
> Again, it is just a wild guess.
>
> "Mark Conrad" <> wrote in message
> news:noneof-...
> >
> > If a modal message comes onscreen in my remote computer,
> > I lose control of that remote computer.
> >
> > ...because some person would have to "dismiss" the
> > modal message, but that can't happen because the remote
> > computer is unattended.
> >
> > Is there any way for me to regain control of the remote PC?
> >
> >
> > I do not think that ANY remote control app' can handle modal
> > windows, but I might be wrong about that.
> >
> > (Windows Vista on both computers, Windows Timbuktu 8.6.0
> > as the remote control application)
> >
> > Mark-

A modal message is an SDI (single device interface window) vs. mdi -
multiple device interface window.

Once an sdi (modal window) is instantiated, the execution in this thread
stops waiting for the user input. Since he is here but the remote desktop is
there, he cannot click on that modal form. A modal form is like that UAC
window (box) that asks you if you want to install a program.

It is possible to arrange perhaps at the other end to make sure that no sdi
windows are displayed but one has to think about it. It may take some
programming. He also states, rightfully so, that he can do it in XP with no
problem.

My solution to him is this: He must give himselves at that end full rights
to handle the remote desktop and anything related to it. Thus there will be
ONE straight user.

"Synapse Syndrome" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "Mark Conrad" <> wrote in message
> news:noneof-...
>>
>> If a modal message comes onscreen in my remote computer,
>> I lose control of that remote computer.
>>
>> ...because some person would have to "dismiss" the
>> modal message, but that can't happen because the remote
>> computer is unattended.
>>
>> Is there any way for me to regain control of the remote PC?
>>
>>
>> I do not think that ANY remote control app' can handle modal
>> windows, but I might be wrong about that.
>>
>> (Windows Vista on both computers, Windows Timbuktu 8.6.0
>> as the remote control application)
>
>
> What modal message?
>
> You never need to install a keyboard, mouse or monitor on a computer that
> you can access through Remote Desktop, so I do not know what you are
> talking about. Try using Remote Desktop or VNC if this Windows Timbuktu
> is causing your problems like that.
>
> My server runs Windows 2003 Server Standard, and almost never has a
> keyboard, mouse or monitor connected to it. This is what is called a
> headless server.
>
> ss.
>

OK, I just checked on Timbuktu. It is a 3-rd party stuff and Vista is not
really responsible for that.

You may be better off by getting a Vista compatible zip file of Timbuktu and
installing it from scratch. I cannot catch if you have already done it or
not, if not, the old XP file is unlikely to work in Vista.

"Mark Conrad" <> wrote in message
news:noneof-...
> Thanks, I am desperate, will check it out.
>
> With Timbuktu, there is no trace of the modal message
> on the controlling computer.
>
> There is no way I know of with Timbuktu of regaining
> control of the remote computer that has the modal
> message on its screen.
>
> (other than having a on-site person manually click on
> the buttons in the modal window)
>
> Only way I can keep remote control operating is to be
> extremely careful to avoid doing anything that will
> cause a modal message to be displayed onscreen.
>
>
> I have not tried the remote control app' "GoToMyPC"
> yet either, to see if it would be stopped dead in its
> tracks like Timbuktu.
>
> Perhaps others who have used GoToMyPC can comment on
> whether it has the same drawback.
>
> Does "remote desktop" display an actual image of the
> remote computers screen? I need that for photos,
> video clips, and other graphics.
>
> Mark-
>
>
>
>
> In article <#>,
> "AlexB" <> wrote:
>
>> It is my gut feeling that if you are using remote desktop and have
>> administrative privileges on the other machine a copy of that modal
>> message
>> should appear at your desktop to take action.
>>
>> Again, it is just a wild guess.
>>
>> "Mark Conrad" <> wrote in message
>> news:noneof-...
>> >
>> > If a modal message comes onscreen in my remote computer,
>> > I lose control of that remote computer.
>> >
>> > ...because some person would have to "dismiss" the
>> > modal message, but that can't happen because the remote
>> > computer is unattended.
>> >
>> > Is there any way for me to regain control of the remote PC?
>> >
>> >
>> > I do not think that ANY remote control app' can handle modal
>> > windows, but I might be wrong about that.
>> >
>> > (Windows Vista on both computers, Windows Timbuktu 8.6.0
>> > as the remote control application)
>> >
>> > Mark-

In article <#>,
"AlexB" <> wrote:

> My solution to him is this: He must give himselves at
> that end full rights to handle the remote desktop
> and anything related to it. Thus there will be
> ONE straight user.

Hmm, perhaps that is where I am going wrong.

I assumed I had full rights on both machines,
because I installed Vista Ultimate on both.

I operate as "administrator" on both.

(I know I should not, but I do)



Are there various types of administrator?


Naw, Microsoft would not arrange things that way.

Mark-

In article <>,
"Synapse Syndrome" <> wrote:

> What modal message?


Thanks for helping. The modal message is for an util'
that I run, it is a UAC modal that asks me to verify
that I really want to run the util'.




> My server runs Windows 2003 Server Standard, and almost
> never has a keyboard, mouse or monitor connected to it.
> This is what is called a headless server.

My remote PC is the same way, no mouse, monitor, keyboard.

Let me qualify that a little.

When a glitch like this happens, I have to temporarily
hook up a mouse, monitor, keyboard, in order to get rid
of the darn modal (UAC) window.




> Try using Remote Desktop or VNC if this Windows Timbuktu
> is causing your problems like that.

I will do that and start a follow-up thread with the result.

Trying Remote Desktop sounds a little easier than VNC,
so I will try that first.

Mark-

In article <>,
"AlexB" <> wrote:

> ...the old XP file is unlikely to work in Vista.

The creators of Timbuktu state that their version 8.6.0
will work with Vista.

It does work on a wired setup (Ethernet 100) - however
even there the darn modal messages (UAC) pop up asking me
if I REALLY want to run this or that.<g>

Oh well...


Mark-

"AlexB" <> wrote in message
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>A modal message is an SDI (single device interface window) vs. mdi -
>multiple device interface window.
>
> Once an sdi (modal window) is instantiated, the execution in this thread
> stops waiting for the user input. Since he is here but the remote desktop
> is there, he cannot click on that modal form. A modal form is like that
> UAC window (box) that asks you if you want to install a program.
>
> It is possible to arrange perhaps at the other end to make sure that no
> sdi windows are displayed but one has to think about it. It may take some
> programming. He also states, rightfully so, that he can do it in XP with
> no problem.
>
> My solution to him is this: He must give himselves at that end full rights
> to handle the remote desktop and anything related to it. Thus there will
> be ONE straight user.


If I really wanted some total bullshyte explanation by a mental case, I
would have asked for one, but thanks anyway..

ss.