mp3 cd won't play in car

My apologies: I didn't realize that any new technology didn't have this
functionality. My car CD player, and every CD player in my house, plays
back these CDs fine. So there's two factors at work:
* you have technology that does not support non-finalized CDs
* IMAPI doesn't believe it needs to close CDs after you burn a non-full disc

#2 is generally a feature, #1 is a limitation of the product you bought -
there's tons of ways to produce non-finalized CDs, as you evidently already
know.

I think we can both agree that IMAPI is not the be-all end-all of burning
technologies. It's a pretty useful inbox tool that is bettered by other
options such as Nero. By the same token, your otherwise pretty cool Blue
Ray Player is missing some surprising functionality that everybody else has
supported for years. =\

It looks like you have all the information you'd find useful here. I'm
sorry that such an otherwise cool deck doesn't provide that functionality.
=(

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"VistaIsTickingMeOFF"
<> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Zach:
>
>
> First of all the Car System is in 2007 Dodge Durango, which is new, a
> Blue Ray Player which plays Music CDs and MP3 CDs which was manufactured
> last year and was purchased for a Xmas gift this last year. So the age
> of the equipment is NOT the Issue. The issue is that XP did finalize CDs
> when you used the OS to create the CDs where VISTA is not, want proof
> anyone try... Simply copy mp3 files to a Record Only or R/W CD and
> close the session.... Try this on both an XP and Vista box. In XP you
> could finalize the cd by closing the session using drag drop and close,
> try this is VISTA.... Then take both CDs and try to play them in a
> system that will read data CDs such a car systems that support MP3 or
> home DVD or Blue Ray Players...given I am not the only one who has ran
> into this issue, I would say the feature changed in VISTA... Oh and we
> are not just talking about WMP but the OS, you know the burning feature.
> It changed between XP and Vista... If you really want proof just keep
> making excuses it is not hard to run a decoder on the CDs after issuing
> the close session from both XP and Vista....
>
> Of course applications that are written to use IMAPI will finalize
> CDs...
>
> 'zachd [MSFT Wrote:
>> ;1127237']Chill, it's an atmosphere of love.
>>
>> So you're saying you have a very old car audio system that doesn't
>> support
>> nonfinalized CDs? I can't imagine any modern CD decks not supporting
>> nonfinalized CDs.
>> If you want to FORCE closure/finalization, fill the CD. Until that
>> point,
>> it would seem to be logical ~not~ to finalize the CD.
>>
>> The finalization/non-finalization of CDs is a feature of IMAPI and is
>> identical between XP and Vista.
>>
>> So your options:
>> * get a modern CD deck; or
>> * fill the CD; or
>> * use something that explicitly allows finalization such as Nero
>>
>> WMP has never ever offered some Finalize checkbox. This is an artifact
>> of
>> CD Burning and has nothing to do with MP3. The same thing (non-closure
>> of
>> non-full-ish CDs) would happen if you burned WMA, MID, DOC, or crackers
>> to
>> your CD. "Anti-mp3" conspiracy theory upon this subject is of course
>> ludicrous. The devs behind MP3 are good people and I've glad to have
>> personally worked with them. Please don't let your having old CD
>> hardware
>> when using a *basic* burning service lead you to invent fake drama
>> between
>> people that respect each other. I'll say I like them, but I don't want
>> to
>> presume the feeling is mutual, even though I have Christmas cards
>> downstairs
>> from them. =)
>>
>> Anyways, you have three options listed above that should sort you out.
>> And,
>> as noted, this has never been a Windows feature ever, so it's not like
>> anything changed here. =)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Zach
>> --
>> Speaking for myself only.
>> See 'WMP FAQ: A trouble-shooting guide for Windows Media Player
>> problems.' (http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html) for some helpful WMP info.
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
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>> "VistaIsTickingMeOFF"
>> <> wrote in
>> message
>> news:...
>> >
>> > Oscar:
>> >
>> > Apparently you don't know the difference between reading and jumping
>> to
>> > conclusions. Audio files take more CD space, but maybe your not aware
>> of
>> > that. MP3 compression allows for more files per CD... DUH! I am
>> talking
>> > about creating an MP3 CD using VISTA which does not close sessions
>> such
>> > devices like DVD players, car audio systems use them... READ THE
>> > THREAD.... So it is a VISTA ISSUE!!!!
>> >
>> > Try you see! I have talked with 10 other Vista users and they all
>> > report the same thing... It does not work unless you use third party
>> > software. So like I said I paid more to upgrade from XP to an OS with
>> > less features!!!
>> >
>> > You got it OSCAR.....?????
>> >
>> >
>> > oscar;1125982 Wrote:
>> >> According to your heading and your post, it appears that you do not
>> know
>> >> the
>> >> dfference between mp3 and audio files.
>> >>
>> >> WMP can easily create audio cd's that are useable in car cd players.
>> I
>> >> do
>> >> it all the time.
>> >>
>> >> This appears to be a user problem and not a Vista problem.
>> >>
>> >> Vista is an operating system which allows software such as WMP to
>> >> integrate
>> >> with the hardware. If you have a problem creating audio CD's you
>> should
>> >> be
>> >> looking at the software that converts the MP3 to audio or the
>> hardware
>> >> involved.
>> >>
>> >> Your post name, "VistaIsTickingMe Off", suggests that you would
>> better
>> >> serve
>> >> yourself by reading a thick book on how Vista and its features work
>> so
>> >> you
>> >> won't get confused by such simple tasks as creating an audio CD.
>> >> --
>> >> oscar
>> >>
>> >> ....Right click is your very good friend...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "VistaIsTickingMeOFF" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > You said it, I cannot believe Microsoft would stoop so low, this I
>> am
>> >> > sure was by design... you know MP3 was not their format to begin
>> with
>> >> so
>> >> > why support this going forward.... I paid more for their new OS
>> Cause
>> >> I
>> >> > was told it would do more and now I am getting less... Like to see
>> >> this
>> >> > one in their Mojave Experiment...LOL I sure hope they learned a
>> >> lesson,
>> >> > other wise this PC user will soon become a MAC user!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
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>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> >
>
>
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>

All

The issue here is not that my audio systems will not play a no
finalized MP3 CD but rather that most people's system have the sam
issue. Maybe we all should have all looked for audio systems with th
"Vista Support Logo". LOL! NOT! I didn't start this thread so my Poin
has been all along that VISTA changed the way it deals with burning CD
from that of XP.

I have tried the MASTERED setting in hopes of creating a finalized C
with Vista as well as the other people in this thread... Apparently t
no avail. It Does not work for some reason???? There is yet anothe
thread in the 64 bit area of this site which many users are complainin
of the same issues. So it is that this was either done by Design b
Microsoft, or yet another loss/bug of functionality from XP which shoul
be addressed.

I will tell you one thing, I will not be upgrading to Microsoft's ne
OS anytime soon, cause I can't afford to have deal with change yet agai
with the real potiential to loing more functionality. :mad

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An Apology to all; The Mastered setting does work, one wouldn't thin
on a less than six month old laptop new drivers were need. Ugh. Again m
apologies, I heard that manufactures were slow to build good drivers fo
Vista but this was ridiculous. Should always check for driver
first.... I knew that.... Thanks to all who tried to help and to have m
only only send back sour responses in return. I feel stupid enough...
:

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did anyone find a fix for this? I can say i've identified the problem.
have both OS's at home and if i look at the cd on an XP computer i foun
out that vista also burned the album art onto the cd, which made i
incompatible. it basically has both song files and pictures. does anyon
know how to just burn the songs? i currently have to save all my song
to a removable drive and burn it on my other computer which is a pai

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kern417

oscar;1125982 Wrote:
> According to your heading and your post, it appears that you do not know
> the
> dfference between mp3 and audio files.
>
> WMP can easily create audio cd's that are useable in car cd players. I
> do
> it all the time.
>
> This appears to be a user problem and not a Vista problem.
>
> Vista is an operating system which allows software such as WMP to
> integrate
> with the hardware. If you have a problem creating audio CD's you should
> be
> looking at the software that converts the MP3 to audio or the hardware
> involved.
>
> Your post name, "VistaIsTickingMe Off", suggests that you would better
> serve
> yourself by reading a thick book on how Vista and its features work so
> you
> won't get confused by such simple tasks as creating an audio CD.
> --
> oscar
>
> ....Right click is your very good friend...

Why is it when someone has a problem and spends time spelling out
“exactly” what it is, there’s always some smart*ss know-it-all that says
it’s a “user error” and ridicules the poster??

Look, “Oscar”, I have the exact same problem as many others have stated
in here. I shouldn't "have" to get a thick Vista book and learn every
friggin thing about the OP. People shouldn't have to become experts with
every new OP that comes out in order to do simple tasks.

I created MP3 discs on my old XP desktop that used to play fine in my
car, but don’t play at all when created on my laptop with Vista.

I have done NOTHING differently. My disc creating procedures are
exactly the same.

I then tried a bunch of different ways to fix the problem -- coming at
it from different directions, methods, and burn programs -- but the
results never vary. The Vista discs always get rejected.

Mind you, once burned they play fine on the laptop they were created
from, so I know the discs are good. There must be something the way the
data is being copied during the burn process that’s different and my car
doesn’t recognize.

I can create WAV (audio) CDs from my Vista machine and they play fine
in the car, so I’m sure the next prescient wisdom I’ll get is to just
stick with audio discs and forget about MP3s. Well, I don’t WANT to burn
audio discs! It defeats the whole purpose? MP3 CDs are able to hold many
more songs so is why most music lovers prefer the format.

I’ve been searching forums like this for months looking for answers and
nothing I’ve tried works. I've also seen many have had the same problem
on different machines and burners, so it's not a manufacturer's problem.


Like many others, I’ve reached the conclusion it must be a Vista
problem. I don’t know if it’s a bug or something "purposely" put in the
software that made the process more complex and incompatible with car
stereos. I was even thinking about spending $$$ to upgrade to Windows 7
to see if that fixes things, but thought, why? Why should I have to
shell out another couple hundred bucks to fix this? Like Gates isn’t
rich enough??? Just very irritating.


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Is the car CD player old-ish? I'm wondering if it doesn't support
non-finalized CDs... ?

The inbox burner is pretty elementary. It's hard to know the difference
in what you're burning without seeing the burnt CDs. =\

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On 5/10/2010 10:31 PM, MotownJeff wrote:
> oscar;1125982 Wrote:
>> According to your heading and your post, it appears that you do not know
>> the
>> dfference between mp3 and audio files.
>>
>> WMP can easily create audio cd's that are useable in car cd players. I
>> do
>> it all the time.
>>
>> This appears to be a user problem and not a Vista problem.
>>
>> Vista is an operating system which allows software such as WMP to
>> integrate
>> with the hardware. If you have a problem creating audio CD's you should
>> be
>> looking at the software that converts the MP3 to audio or the hardware
>> involved.
>>
>> Your post name, "VistaIsTickingMe Off", suggests that you would better
>> serve
>> yourself by reading a thick book on how Vista and its features work so
>> you
>> won't get confused by such simple tasks as creating an audio CD.
>> --
>> oscar
>>
>> ....Right click is your very good friend...
>
> Why is it when someone has a problem and spends time spelling out
> “exactly” what it is, there’s always some smart*ss know-it-all that says
> it’s a “user error” and ridicules the poster??
>
> Look, “Oscar”, I have the exact same problem as many others have stated
> in here. I shouldn't "have" to get a thick Vista book and learn every
> friggin thing about the OP. People shouldn't have to become experts with
> every new OP that comes out in order to do simple tasks.
>
> I created MP3 discs on my old XP desktop that used to play fine in my
> car, but don’t play at all when created on my laptop with Vista.
>
> I have done NOTHING differently. My disc creating procedures are
> exactly the same.
>
> I then tried a bunch of different ways to fix the problem -- coming at
> it from different directions, methods, and burn programs -- but the
> results never vary. The Vista discs always get rejected.
>
> Mind you, once burned they play fine on the laptop they were created
> from, so I know the discs are good. There must be something the way the
> data is being copied during the burn process that’s different and my car
> doesn’t recognize.
>
> I can create WAV (audio) CDs from my Vista machine and they play fine
> in the car, so I’m sure the next prescient wisdom I’ll get is to just
> stick with audio discs and forget about MP3s. Well, I don’t WANT to burn
> audio discs! It defeats the whole purpose? MP3 CDs are able to hold many
> more songs so is why most music lovers prefer the format.
>
> I’ve been searching forums like this for months looking for answers and
> nothing I’ve tried works. I've also seen many have had the same problem
> on different machines and burners, so it's not a manufacturer's problem.
>
>
> Like many others, I’ve reached the conclusion it must be a Vista
> problem. I don’t know if it’s a bug or something "purposely" put in the
> software that made the process more complex and incompatible with car
> stereos. I was even thinking about spending $$$ to upgrade to Windows 7
> to see if that fixes things, but thought, why? Why should I have to
> shell out another couple hundred bucks to fix this? Like Gates isn’t
> rich enough??? Just very irritating.
>
>