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bmoag
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      11-02-2008
On one computer when the start button/all programs is clicked multiple
entries are highlighted. Which programs/groups are highlighted varies
randomly. It is nearly impossible to click on a program/group and get it to
open properly. This behavior persists with every rebooting of the computer.
On another Vista computer, after working properly for a while, it no longer
emerges from sleep in a functional state-desktop and other icons do not
respond to clicking, including the start button. A hard restart of the
system (power off/on) and the OS insists on resuming Vista from the
defective sleep state. Only a second reboot restores a "new" iteration of
Vista that works properly.
On yet another machine Vista refuses to work properly with Firefox. Firefox
will not open or close properly. After closing the program it cannot be
reopened. There is a message box saying that Firefox is already running but
there are no identifiable processes for Firefox running. Uninstalling and
reinstalling Firefox does not solve the problem so I see this as a Vista
issue. This is on a machine that has only business productivity programs,
nothing esoteric.
Microsoft wants $59 to contact them. When they have covered issues for free
I have never, ever gotten an answer that was even remotely nearly correct.
Most of their suggestions made things worse.
Is anyone dumb enough to pay Microsoft for support? They can't program the
OS so how can they troubleshoot it?



 
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Peter Foldes
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      11-02-2008
Microsoft will not help you out with anything concerning Vista and Firefox. You might get more comprehensive help posting your issue with Firefox in Vista in the Firefox forums

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"bmoag" <-> wrote in message newsC9A90E4-D923-4E75-BFC1-...
> On one computer when the start button/all programs is clicked multiple
> entries are highlighted. Which programs/groups are highlighted varies
> randomly. It is nearly impossible to click on a program/group and get it to
> open properly. This behavior persists with every rebooting of the computer.
> On another Vista computer, after working properly for a while, it no longer
> emerges from sleep in a functional state-desktop and other icons do not
> respond to clicking, including the start button. A hard restart of the
> system (power off/on) and the OS insists on resuming Vista from the
> defective sleep state. Only a second reboot restores a "new" iteration of
> Vista that works properly.
> On yet another machine Vista refuses to work properly with Firefox. Firefox
> will not open or close properly. After closing the program it cannot be
> reopened. There is a message box saying that Firefox is already running but
> there are no identifiable processes for Firefox running. Uninstalling and
> reinstalling Firefox does not solve the problem so I see this as a Vista
> issue. This is on a machine that has only business productivity programs,
> nothing esoteric.
> Microsoft wants $59 to contact them. When they have covered issues for free
> I have never, ever gotten an answer that was even remotely nearly correct.
> Most of their suggestions made things worse.
> Is anyone dumb enough to pay Microsoft for support? They can't program the
> OS so how can they troubleshoot it?
>
>
>

 
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ray
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      11-02-2008

> Microsoft wants $59 to contact them. When they have covered issues for
> free I have never, ever gotten an answer that was even remotely nearly
> correct. Most of their suggestions made things worse. Is anyone dumb
> enough to pay Microsoft for support? They can't program the OS so how
> can they troubleshoot it?


Some of us are smart enough not to pay anything for MS. I run Linux.
 
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Rick Rogers
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      11-02-2008
Hi,

"bmoag" <-> wrote in message
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> On one computer when the start button/all programs is clicked multiple
> entries are highlighted. Which programs/groups are highlighted varies
> randomly. It is nearly impossible to click on a program/group and get it
> to open properly. This behavior persists with every rebooting of the
> computer.


This is usually related to the video driver. Check with the manufacturer of
the video adapter for an updated driver and supporting software.

> On another Vista computer, after working properly for a while, it no
> longer emerges from sleep in a functional state-desktop and other icons do
> not respond to clicking, including the start button. A hard restart of the
> system (power off/on) and the OS insists on resuming Vista from the
> defective sleep state. Only a second reboot restores a "new" iteration of
> Vista that works properly.


Some device drivers do not support sleep mode properly. The solution is to
either a) get device drivers for your hardware that do or b) don't use sleep
mode. Again, the manufacturer of the hardware is best source for these.

> On yet another machine Vista refuses to work properly with Firefox.
> Firefox will not open or close properly. After closing the program it
> cannot be reopened. There is a message box saying that Firefox is already
> running but there are no identifiable processes for Firefox running.
> Uninstalling and reinstalling Firefox does not solve the problem so I see
> this as a Vista issue. This is on a machine that has only business
> productivity programs, nothing esoteric.


Firefox doesn't work properly on a fresh install and you blame the operating
system? Sorry, but you need to check with mozilla support for assistance
with this issue with their software. Hundreds of thousands do not have
trouble with Firefox on Vista, so the problem likely lies in your particular
system and the hardware/software involved. You may have a bad system file or
lagging registry entry that is affecting the repeated installations. I'd
check with Mozilla for an installation cleanup utility.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

 
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ray
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      11-03-2008
On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:45:57 -0500, Bob Campbell wrote:

> "ray" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>
>> Some of us are smart enough not to pay anything for MS. I run Linux.

>
> Some of us are even smarter than that. I run all kinds of MS software,
> but don't have to pay for any of it. I have a full MSDN subscription
> from my employer.
>
> Vista, Server 2003, Server 2008, SQL Server, etc, etc. All provided to
> me as part of my employment package. All with licenses good for 10
> installs.
>
> Of course, even if I had to pay I would still be using Windows. There
> is a reason Linux is free, and it shows.


It seems to me that when you buy an OS you should get support. Now - let's
disect that statement: first of all, with MS you don't buy the software -
you lease it - and what you can do with it is severely limited. You can
certainly get Linux for free - and it comes with no support. If, on the
other hand, you choose to BUY it, you do indeed get support - that is
basically what you pay for.
 
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ray
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      11-03-2008
On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:45:57 -0500, Bob Campbell wrote:

> "ray" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>
>> Some of us are smart enough not to pay anything for MS. I run Linux.

>
> Some of us are even smarter than that. I run all kinds of MS software,
> but don't have to pay for any of it. I have a full MSDN subscription
> from my employer.
>
> Vista, Server 2003, Server 2008, SQL Server, etc, etc. All provided to
> me as part of my employment package. All with licenses good for 10
> installs.
>
> Of course, even if I had to pay I would still be using Windows. There
> is a reason Linux is free, and it shows.


It seems to me that when you buy an OS you should get support. Now - let's
disect that statement: first of all, with MS you don't buy the software -
you lease it - and what you can do with it is severely limited. You can
certainly get Linux for free - and it comes with no support. If, on the
other hand, you choose to BUY it, you do indeed get support - that is
basically what you pay for.
 
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Frank
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      11-03-2008
ray wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:45:57 -0500, Bob Campbell wrote:
>
>> "ray" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>
>>> Some of us are smart enough not to pay anything for MS. I run Linux.

>> Some of us are even smarter than that. I run all kinds of MS software,
>> but don't have to pay for any of it. I have a full MSDN subscription
>> from my employer.
>>
>> Vista, Server 2003, Server 2008, SQL Server, etc, etc. All provided to
>> me as part of my employment package. All with licenses good for 10
>> installs.
>>
>> Of course, even if I had to pay I would still be using Windows. There
>> is a reason Linux is free, and it shows.

>
> It seems to me that when you buy an OS you should get support.


I believe that when you purchase any OEM Windows OS you get OEM support.
When you purchase Windows retail, you get limited, direct MS support.

Now - let's
> disect that statement: first of all, with MS you don't buy the software -
> you lease it - and what you can do with it is severely limited.


Limited to what?

You can
> certainly get Linux for free - and it comes with no support. If, on the
> other hand, you choose to BUY it, you do indeed get support - that is
> basically what you pay for.

 
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Ringmaster
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      11-03-2008
On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 19:15:21 -0800, Frank <> wrote:

>ray wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:45:57 -0500, Bob Campbell wrote:
>>
>>> "ray" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>
>>>> Some of us are smart enough not to pay anything for MS. I run Linux.
>>> Some of us are even smarter than that. I run all kinds of MS software,
>>> but don't have to pay for any of it. I have a full MSDN subscription
>>> from my employer.
>>>
>>> Vista, Server 2003, Server 2008, SQL Server, etc, etc. All provided to
>>> me as part of my employment package. All with licenses good for 10
>>> installs.
>>>
>>> Of course, even if I had to pay I would still be using Windows. There
>>> is a reason Linux is free, and it shows.

>>
>> It seems to me that when you buy an OS you should get support.

>
>I believe that when you purchase any OEM Windows OS you get OEM support.
>When you purchase Windows retail, you get limited, direct MS support.


Yeah... limited MS support. You get Frankie the jerk-off screaming
obscenities at you.
 
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Frank
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      11-03-2008
Ringmaster wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 19:15:21 -0800, Frank <> wrote:
>
>> ray wrote:
>>> On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:45:57 -0500, Bob Campbell wrote:
>>>
>>>> "ray" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>
>>>>> Some of us are smart enough not to pay anything for MS. I run Linux.
>>>> Some of us are even smarter than that. I run all kinds of MS software,
>>>> but don't have to pay for any of it. I have a full MSDN subscription
>>>> from my employer.
>>>>
>>>> Vista, Server 2003, Server 2008, SQL Server, etc, etc. All provided to
>>>> me as part of my employment package. All with licenses good for 10
>>>> installs.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, even if I had to pay I would still be using Windows. There
>>>> is a reason Linux is free, and it shows.
>>> It seems to me that when you buy an OS you should get support.

>> I believe that when you purchase any OEM Windows OS you get OEM support.
>> When you purchase Windows retail, you get limited, direct MS support.

>
> Yeah... limited MS support. You get Frankie the jerk-off screaming
> obscenities at you.


So you work at a help desk huh?
****! They must be really desperate!...LOL!
 
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bmoag
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      11-03-2008
Not a single accurate answer! Just like Microsoft and it was free!
This is a first install of a retail copy of Vista, just activated: there was
no option for free Microsoft support, only a demand for $59 dollars.
I have researched all these issues on the web: there are multiple similar
posts on various technical support web sites but not a single cogent answer.
I just upgraded my business software. The publisher strongly recommends
avoiding Vista and will not support it.
Microsoft is pushing the world toward cloud computing because their
desktop/laptop OSes are now wholly unreliable.
Balmer says that Win7 is built on Vista. That is a nightmare scenario.
If the cloud is accessible through any browser Windows becomes even more
irrelevant than the incompetent programming that Microsoft has used to
destroy their franchise.
As ugly/unusable as Linux is it is free and if the browser is the gateway to
applications then goodbye Windows/Apple.
Bill Gates truly is a genius: the first rat to leave the sinking ship of
Microsoft.



 
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