My Advice - Dont upgrade EVER!!!

I purchased the upgrade to Vista Premium over the weekend and to say its
been tough is an understatement. First, Gateway does not make a monitor
driver for my 21" Lcd flat screen, so my monitor is known as a non pnp
generic monitor (gateway was no help at all, told me to contact eztune for a
driver, when eztune does not make drivers for monitors). I cannot set the
correct screen size so my fonts and images are screwey looking, There is
also a bug with vista and video cards that support dual monitors which will
not allow you to change the color of the taskbar. Eztune which allows me to
control the monitor settings has issues with the Nvidia 6600 series video
card that my pc has and they told me I have to uninstall it until they get
it worked out, or asked me to buy a new video card (what crap that is).
There is no motorola drivers available so I cannot use Motorola Phone tools
(which I just bought 2 weeks ago). You cannot run any dos based commands
(such as nslookup) without using runas administrator (more of an annoyance
than anything).

My shared printer wont share because its an ip printer and vista seems to
think that it doesnt exist (had to hook it up via usb in order to print and
sharing still didnt work). The new Windows Explorer is a chore in itself,
There is no easy way to go up a level like we used to in Xp with the simple
icon with an up arrow.

Microsoft Defender is installed and working but yet Vista says its turned
off and warns me daily that I am not protected. When I click to turn it on
nothing happens.

Msn Messenger (which I use for work) does not flash when a new message
arrives. I uninstalled and then reinstalled, no luck. Windows media center
is a mess, its like trying to find your way through a maze.

So my experience with Vista is a bad one. This doesnt mean that it doesnt
work for others, just not me. I will go back to XP and probably stay there
for a long time to come.

Just my $159 worth...

Jim

thank you


"Jim G" <> wrote in message
news:%...
>I purchased the upgrade to Vista Premium over the weekend and to say its
>been tough is an understatement. First, Gateway does not make a monitor
>driver for my 21" Lcd flat screen, so my monitor is known as a non pnp
>generic monitor (gateway was no help at all, told me to contact eztune for
>a driver, when eztune does not make drivers for monitors). I cannot set the
>correct screen size so my fonts and images are screwey looking, There is
>also a bug with vista and video cards that support dual monitors which will
>not allow you to change the color of the taskbar. Eztune which allows me to
>control the monitor settings has issues with the Nvidia 6600 series video
>card that my pc has and they told me I have to uninstall it until they get
>it worked out, or asked me to buy a new video card (what crap that is).
>There is no motorola drivers available so I cannot use Motorola Phone tools
>(which I just bought 2 weeks ago). You cannot run any dos based commands
>(such as nslookup) without using runas administrator (more of an annoyance
>than anything).
>
> My shared printer wont share because its an ip printer and vista seems to
> think that it doesnt exist (had to hook it up via usb in order to print
> and sharing still didnt work). The new Windows Explorer is a chore in
> itself, There is no easy way to go up a level like we used to in Xp with
> the simple icon with an up arrow.
>
> Microsoft Defender is installed and working but yet Vista says its turned
> off and warns me daily that I am not protected. When I click to turn it on
> nothing happens.
>
> Msn Messenger (which I use for work) does not flash when a new message
> arrives. I uninstalled and then reinstalled, no luck. Windows media center
> is a mess, its like trying to find your way through a maze.
>
> So my experience with Vista is a bad one. This doesnt mean that it doesnt
> work for others, just not me. I will go back to XP and probably stay there
> for a long time to come.
>
> Just my $159 worth...
>
> Jim

"Jim G" <> wrote in message
news:%...
>I purchased the upgrade to Vista Premium over the weekend and to say its
>been tough is an understatement. First, Gateway does not make a monitor
>driver for my 21" Lcd flat screen, so my monitor is known as a non pnp
>generic monitor (gateway was no help at all, told me to contact eztune for
>a driver, when eztune does not make drivers for monitors). I cannot set the
>correct screen size so my fonts and images are screwey looking, There is
>also a bug with vista and video cards that support dual monitors which will
>not allow you to change the color of the taskbar. Eztune which allows me to
>control the monitor settings has issues with the Nvidia 6600 series video
>card that my pc has and they told me I have to uninstall it until they get
>it worked out, or asked me to buy a new video card (what crap that is).
>There is no motorola drivers available so I cannot use Motorola Phone tools
>(which I just bought 2 weeks ago). You cannot run any dos based commands
>(such as nslookup) without using runas administrator (more of an annoyance
>than anything).
>
> My shared printer wont share because its an ip printer and vista seems to
> think that it doesnt exist (had to hook it up via usb in order to print
> and sharing still didnt work). The new Windows Explorer is a chore in
> itself, There is no easy way to go up a level like we used to in Xp with
> the simple icon with an up arrow.
>
> Microsoft Defender is installed and working but yet Vista says its turned
> off and warns me daily that I am not protected. When I click to turn it on
> nothing happens.
>
> Msn Messenger (which I use for work) does not flash when a new message
> arrives. I uninstalled and then reinstalled, no luck. Windows media center
> is a mess, its like trying to find your way through a maze.
>
> So my experience with Vista is a bad one. This doesnt mean that it doesnt
> work for others, just not me. I will go back to XP and probably stay there
> for a long time to come.
>
> Just my $159 worth...
>
> Jim

Jim,

Just curious but did you run the hardware and program compatibility wizards
before plunking down your money?
They are always available and definitely a major requirement when
considering upgrading to a new OS version straight out of the gate so to
speak.

joe

Run this before buying
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...deadvisor.mspx

--
ufoa


"Jim G" wrote:

> I purchased the upgrade to Vista Premium over the weekend and to say its
> been tough is an understatement. First, Gateway does not make a monitor
> driver for my 21" Lcd flat screen, so my monitor is known as a non pnp
> generic monitor (gateway was no help at all, told me to contact eztune for a
> driver, when eztune does not make drivers for monitors). I cannot set the
> correct screen size so my fonts and images are screwey looking, There is
> also a bug with vista and video cards that support dual monitors which will
> not allow you to change the color of the taskbar. Eztune which allows me to
> control the monitor settings has issues with the Nvidia 6600 series video
> card that my pc has and they told me I have to uninstall it until they get
> it worked out, or asked me to buy a new video card (what crap that is).
> There is no motorola drivers available so I cannot use Motorola Phone tools
> (which I just bought 2 weeks ago). You cannot run any dos based commands
> (such as nslookup) without using runas administrator (more of an annoyance
> than anything).
>
> My shared printer wont share because its an ip printer and vista seems to
> think that it doesnt exist (had to hook it up via usb in order to print and
> sharing still didnt work). The new Windows Explorer is a chore in itself,
> There is no easy way to go up a level like we used to in Xp with the simple
> icon with an up arrow.
>
> Microsoft Defender is installed and working but yet Vista says its turned
> off and warns me daily that I am not protected. When I click to turn it on
> nothing happens.
>
> Msn Messenger (which I use for work) does not flash when a new message
> arrives. I uninstalled and then reinstalled, no luck. Windows media center
> is a mess, its like trying to find your way through a maze.
>
> So my experience with Vista is a bad one. This doesnt mean that it doesnt
> work for others, just not me. I will go back to XP and probably stay there
> for a long time to come.
>
> Just my $159 worth...
>
> Jim
>
>

Yeah I ran the Vista Upgrade advisor and it passed everything. On the
install it told me that I had to remove Roxio backup which is a part of the
Roxio Media Creator software that I have. After I uninstalled it the upgrade
went fine.

Jim


"ufoa" <> wrote in message
news:3F334A40-5182-408B-87BD-...
> Run this before buying
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...deadvisor.mspx
>
> --
> ufoa
>
>
> "Jim G" wrote:
>
>> I purchased the upgrade to Vista Premium over the weekend and to say its
>> been tough is an understatement. First, Gateway does not make a monitor
>> driver for my 21" Lcd flat screen, so my monitor is known as a non pnp
>> generic monitor (gateway was no help at all, told me to contact eztune
>> for a
>> driver, when eztune does not make drivers for monitors). I cannot set the
>> correct screen size so my fonts and images are screwey looking, There is
>> also a bug with vista and video cards that support dual monitors which
>> will
>> not allow you to change the color of the taskbar. Eztune which allows me
>> to
>> control the monitor settings has issues with the Nvidia 6600 series video
>> card that my pc has and they told me I have to uninstall it until they
>> get
>> it worked out, or asked me to buy a new video card (what crap that is).
>> There is no motorola drivers available so I cannot use Motorola Phone
>> tools
>> (which I just bought 2 weeks ago). You cannot run any dos based commands
>> (such as nslookup) without using runas administrator (more of an
>> annoyance
>> than anything).
>>
>> My shared printer wont share because its an ip printer and vista seems to
>> think that it doesnt exist (had to hook it up via usb in order to print
>> and
>> sharing still didnt work). The new Windows Explorer is a chore in itself,
>> There is no easy way to go up a level like we used to in Xp with the
>> simple
>> icon with an up arrow.
>>
>> Microsoft Defender is installed and working but yet Vista says its turned
>> off and warns me daily that I am not protected. When I click to turn it
>> on
>> nothing happens.
>>
>> Msn Messenger (which I use for work) does not flash when a new message
>> arrives. I uninstalled and then reinstalled, no luck. Windows media
>> center
>> is a mess, its like trying to find your way through a maze.
>>
>> So my experience with Vista is a bad one. This doesnt mean that it doesnt
>> work for others, just not me. I will go back to XP and probably stay
>> there
>> for a long time to come.
>>
>> Just my $159 worth...
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>

ufoa helpful comment wasn't it seeing he has already brought it, expecially
as the advisor is about as much
use as a whistle on a deafs mans outing.



"ufoa" <> wrote in message
news:3F334A40-5182-408B-87BD-...

> Run this before buying
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...deadvisor.mspx
>
> --
> ufoa
>
>
> "Jim G" wrote:
>
>> I purchased the upgrade to Vista Premium over the weekend and to say its
>> been tough is an understatement. First, Gateway does not make a monitor
>> driver for my 21" Lcd flat screen, so my monitor is known as a non pnp
>> generic monitor (gateway was no help at all, told me to contact eztune
>> for a
>> driver, when eztune does not make drivers for monitors). I cannot set the
>> correct screen size so my fonts and images are screwey looking, There is
>> also a bug with vista and video cards that support dual monitors which
>> will
>> not allow you to change the color of the taskbar. Eztune which allows me
>> to
>> control the monitor settings has issues with the Nvidia 6600 series video
>> card that my pc has and they told me I have to uninstall it until they
>> get
>> it worked out, or asked me to buy a new video card (what crap that is).
>> There is no motorola drivers available so I cannot use Motorola Phone
>> tools
>> (which I just bought 2 weeks ago). You cannot run any dos based commands
>> (such as nslookup) without using runas administrator (more of an
>> annoyance
>> than anything).
>>
>> My shared printer wont share because its an ip printer and vista seems to
>> think that it doesnt exist (had to hook it up via usb in order to print
>> and
>> sharing still didnt work). The new Windows Explorer is a chore in itself,
>> There is no easy way to go up a level like we used to in Xp with the
>> simple
>> icon with an up arrow.
>>
>> Microsoft Defender is installed and working but yet Vista says its turned
>> off and warns me daily that I am not protected. When I click to turn it
>> on
>> nothing happens.
>>
>> Msn Messenger (which I use for work) does not flash when a new message
>> arrives. I uninstalled and then reinstalled, no luck. Windows media
>> center
>> is a mess, its like trying to find your way through a maze.
>>
>> So my experience with Vista is a bad one. This doesnt mean that it doesnt
>> work for others, just not me. I will go back to XP and probably stay
>> there
>> for a long time to come.
>>
>> Just my $159 worth...
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>

Jim G wrote:
> I purchased the upgrade to Vista Premium over the weekend and to say its
> been tough is an understatement. First, Gateway does not make a monitor
> driver for my 21" Lcd flat screen, so my monitor is known as a non pnp
> generic monitor (gateway was no help at all, told me to contact eztune
> for a driver, when eztune does not make drivers for monitors). I cannot
> set the correct screen size so my fonts and images are screwey looking,
> There is also a bug with vista and video cards that support dual
> monitors which will not allow you to change the color of the taskbar.
> Eztune which allows me to control the monitor settings has issues with
> the Nvidia 6600 series video card that my pc has and they told me I have
> to uninstall it until they get it worked out, or asked me to buy a new
> video card (what crap that is). There is no motorola drivers available
> so I cannot use Motorola Phone tools (which I just bought 2 weeks ago).
> You cannot run any dos based commands (such as nslookup) without using
> runas administrator (more of an annoyance than anything).

Ahh, okay so you're complaining that Gateway never made a driver (not a
Microsoft problem), that Eztune doesn't like your graphics card (not a
Microsoft problem) and that Motorola hasn't made some drivers for your
phone (not a Microsoft problem).

Have to confirm the nslookup issue - not tried it on my Vista box.

> My shared printer wont share because its an ip printer and vista seems
> to think that it doesnt exist (had to hook it up via usb in order to
> print and sharing still didnt work). The new Windows Explorer is a chore
> in itself, There is no easy way to go up a level like we used to in Xp
> with the simple icon with an up arrow.
>
> Microsoft Defender is installed and working but yet Vista says its
> turned off and warns me daily that I am not protected. When I click to
> turn it on nothing happens.

Are you sure it's not complaining that Vista is saying you don't have
anti-virus? Defender is not AV, so just having Defender will give you a
red shield.

> Msn Messenger (which I use for work) does not flash when a new message
> arrives. I uninstalled and then reinstalled, no luck. Windows media
> center is a mess, its like trying to find your way through a maze.
>
> So my experience with Vista is a bad one. This doesnt mean that it
> doesnt work for others, just not me. I will go back to XP and probably
> stay there for a long time to come.
>
> Just my $159 worth...
>
> Jim

David

"David Hearn" <> wrote in message
news:Ol6Xj%...
> Jim G wrote:
>> I purchased the upgrade to Vista Premium over the weekend and to say its
>> been tough is an understatement. First, Gateway does not make a monitor
>> driver for my 21" Lcd flat screen, so my monitor is known as a non pnp
>> generic monitor (gateway was no help at all, told me to contact eztune
>> for a driver, when eztune does not make drivers for monitors). I cannot
>> set the correct screen size so my fonts and images are screwey looking,
>> There is also a bug with vista and video cards that support dual monitors
>> which will not allow you to change the color of the taskbar. Eztune which
>> allows me to control the monitor settings has issues with the Nvidia 6600
>> series video card that my pc has and they told me I have to uninstall it
>> until they get it worked out, or asked me to buy a new video card (what
>> crap that is). There is no motorola drivers available so I cannot use
>> Motorola Phone tools (which I just bought 2 weeks ago). You cannot run
>> any dos based commands (such as nslookup) without using runas
>> administrator (more of an annoyance than anything).
>
> Ahh, okay so you're complaining that Gateway never made a driver (not a
> Microsoft problem), that Eztune doesn't like your graphics card (not a
> Microsoft problem) and that Motorola hasn't made some drivers for your
> phone (not a Microsoft problem).
>
> Have to confirm the nslookup issue - not tried it on my Vista box.
>
>> My shared printer wont share because its an ip printer and vista seems to
>> think that it doesnt exist (had to hook it up via usb in order to print
>> and sharing still didnt work). The new Windows Explorer is a chore in
>> itself, There is no easy way to go up a level like we used to in Xp with
>> the simple icon with an up arrow.
>>
>> Microsoft Defender is installed and working but yet Vista says its turned
>> off and warns me daily that I am not protected. When I click to turn it
>> on nothing happens.
>
> Are you sure it's not complaining that Vista is saying you don't have
> anti-virus? Defender is not AV, so just having Defender will give you a
> red shield.
>
>> Msn Messenger (which I use for work) does not flash when a new message
>> arrives. I uninstalled and then reinstalled, no luck. Windows media
>> center is a mess, its like trying to find your way through a maze.
>>
>> So my experience with Vista is a bad one. This doesnt mean that it doesnt
>> work for others, just not me. I will go back to XP and probably stay
>> there for a long time to come.
>>
>> Just my $159 worth...
>>
>> Jim
>
> David

Yeah I have anti-virus and thats showing and working well. Yes while most of
my issues are driver related you would think that these companies would have
updates in place at the time of Vista release because you know people like
me will go out and get it right away. I think Microsoft is on the right
track with Vista, it just gets frustrating when things just dont work.

Jim

"Jim G" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Yeah I ran the Vista Upgrade advisor and it passed everything. On the
> install it told me that I had to remove Roxio backup which is a part of
> the Roxio Media Creator software that I have. After I uninstalled it the
> upgrade went fine.
>
> Jim

It passed everything in the upgrade advisor, only complained about roxio
backup on install and then proceeded to barf on your system after the
install completed? Wonderful aint it? So much for the upgrade advisor eh?

joe

1. What's the brand, name and model number of your LCD monitor?

2. Have you tried Windows Live Messenger instead of MSN Messenger?

3. Check for new drivers for your printer. Here there's a Samsung that
wouldn't network until recently when Smasung released a driver so that it
would work properly on Vista .. have you checked the printer manufacturer's
website?

4. Do you have an anti-virus program installed and , if so, which one?

Saucy Lemon


"Jim G" <> wrote in message
news:%...
>I purchased the upgrade to Vista Premium over the weekend and to say its
>been tough is an understatement. First, Gateway does not make a monitor
>driver for my 21" Lcd flat screen, so my monitor is known as a non pnp
>generic monitor (gateway was no help at all, told me to contact eztune for
>a driver, when eztune does not make drivers for monitors). I cannot set the
>correct screen size so my fonts and images are screwey looking, There is
>also a bug with vista and video cards that support dual monitors which will
>not allow you to change the color of the taskbar. Eztune which allows me to
>control the monitor settings has issues with the Nvidia 6600 series video
>card that my pc has and they told me I have to uninstall it until they get
>it worked out, or asked me to buy a new video card (what crap that is).
>There is no motorola drivers available so I cannot use Motorola Phone tools
>(which I just bought 2 weeks ago). You cannot run any dos based commands
>(such as nslookup) without using runas administrator (more of an annoyance
>than anything).
>
> My shared printer wont share because its an ip printer and vista seems to
> think that it doesnt exist (had to hook it up via usb in order to print
> and sharing still didnt work). The new Windows Explorer is a chore in
> itself, There is no easy way to go up a level like we used to in Xp with
> the simple icon with an up arrow.
>
> Microsoft Defender is installed and working but yet Vista says its turned
> off and warns me daily that I am not protected. When I click to turn it on
> nothing happens.
>
> Msn Messenger (which I use for work) does not flash when a new message
> arrives. I uninstalled and then reinstalled, no luck. Windows media center
> is a mess, its like trying to find your way through a maze.
>
> So my experience with Vista is a bad one. This doesnt mean that it doesnt
> work for others, just not me. I will go back to XP and probably stay there
> for a long time to come.
>
> Just my $159 worth...
>
> Jim