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NEED ADVISE for READING LARGE DOCS ON COMPUTERS - maybe E-paper, E-ink, Kindle, Ebook readers, or just PRINT IT?

 
 
STAN STARINSKI
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      10-01-2009
I deal with megatons of PDF docs e.g. datahseets, manuals, etc.
It's mostly text. As I've been doing computers for decades & health is my
priority, not something in "background" I have SUPER healthy environment
such as all-black background, silver-colored fonts, no
distractions/graphics, brightness at zero, contrast at comfortably low
setting which is in hardware + nVidia videodriver, my graphics is 512MB
nVidia GeForceMobile.
It's too long to explain but everything is as good as it gets.

AND YET IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
The bright ideas don't arrive into your head in the office, in bright light
while a bunch of people swarm around, you can hear peeing in the toilet,
PHONES, etc.
I use earplugs 34NRR rating, blue things that far exceed so-called noise
reduction headphones (which are a ripoff).

Do you kno whwere bright ideas get born?
In a park, woods, the bench, MY CAR - the best, I sit alone in total
silence, no cellphones, no dorks of my neighborhood - I just drive out to s
State/National Park and that's where I work on complex problems.
I need all these PDF's with me.
Printing is not an option you obviously understand. One Datasheet for
Microchip PIC18F4420 is 421 pages, and I need like a dozen of things of this
sort with me.

So anyone can suggest a solution?
My plan is the following, bu tmaybe someone cna sugegst better?

a) Get Amazon Kindle - its Epaper does not emit light, but instead REFLECTS
light so it's the closest you can get to paper.
Despit emy laptop being ultrahealthy and all dark, it's still an LCD,
sunlight blinds it, ewtc, etc bu tmost important you STILL get stuff emitted
into your eyes even though it's nowhere close to old CRT/tube monitors of th
eancient era, it's still not paper.
You know the feeling flipping pages?
Nothing can replace it, paper is still indispensable.
Things like Kindle, Ebook redaer from Ectaco, etc come closest to it.
The Problem is cost - $300, and Ectaco unit has this megaproblem - you can't
resize fonts/zoom & jump to arbitrary page in a PDF, so in a 420 page doc
you have to scroll thru 400 pages to get to 401st?
It draws no energy when text is static, good, but still... $300 in this
tight economy for something that can only display text and o nothing else.

b) Get a NETBOOK, but it's nothing more than a small laptop, it's still
using LCD and energy.
The plus is that it can do anything else besides displaying text (Kindle)
and no PDF problems unline Ectaco
If Kindle can do more than simple reading, than price shoots upto to a
Nertbook or even a laptop cost, so why bother?

c) I am mor einclined to get a Netbook with OLED display, but Kindle is
still in my head

Any suggestions?

 
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      10-01-2009
What you should get first is a spill chucker so as the post can be read properly.

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"STAN STARINSKI" <> wrote in message
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>I deal with megatons of PDF docs e.g. datahseets, manuals, etc.
> It's mostly text. As I've been doing computers for decades & health is my
> priority, not something in "background" I have SUPER healthy environment such as
> all-black background, silver-colored fonts, no distractions/graphics, brightness
> at zero, contrast at comfortably low setting which is in hardware + nVidia
> videodriver, my graphics is 512MB nVidia GeForceMobile.
> It's too long to explain but everything is as good as it gets.
>
> AND YET IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
> The bright ideas don't arrive into your head in the office, in bright light while
> a bunch of people swarm around, you can hear peeing in the toilet, PHONES, etc.
> I use earplugs 34NRR rating, blue things that far exceed so-called noise reduction
> headphones (which are a ripoff).
>
> Do you kno whwere bright ideas get born?
> In a park, woods, the bench, MY CAR - the best, I sit alone in total silence, no
> cellphones, no dorks of my neighborhood - I just drive out to s State/National
> Park and that's where I work on complex problems.
> I need all these PDF's with me.
> Printing is not an option you obviously understand. One Datasheet for Microchip
> PIC18F4420 is 421 pages, and I need like a dozen of things of this sort with me.
>
> So anyone can suggest a solution?
> My plan is the following, bu tmaybe someone cna sugegst better?
>
> a) Get Amazon Kindle - its Epaper does not emit light, but instead REFLECTS light
> so it's the closest you can get to paper.
> Despit emy laptop being ultrahealthy and all dark, it's still an LCD, sunlight
> blinds it, ewtc, etc bu tmost important you STILL get stuff emitted into your eyes
> even though it's nowhere close to old CRT/tube monitors of th eancient era, it's
> still not paper.
> You know the feeling flipping pages?
> Nothing can replace it, paper is still indispensable.
> Things like Kindle, Ebook redaer from Ectaco, etc come closest to it.
> The Problem is cost - $300, and Ectaco unit has this megaproblem - you can't
> resize fonts/zoom & jump to arbitrary page in a PDF, so in a 420 page doc you have
> to scroll thru 400 pages to get to 401st?
> It draws no energy when text is static, good, but still... $300 in this tight
> economy for something that can only display text and o nothing else.
>
> b) Get a NETBOOK, but it's nothing more than a small laptop, it's still using LCD
> and energy.
> The plus is that it can do anything else besides displaying text (Kindle) and no
> PDF problems unline Ectaco
> If Kindle can do more than simple reading, than price shoots upto to a Nertbook or
> even a laptop cost, so why bother?
>
> c) I am mor einclined to get a Netbook with OLED display, but Kindle is still in
> my head
>
> Any suggestions?


 
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STAN STARINSKI
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      10-01-2009
Acer is taiwanese - I will NOT kill anymore American jobs.
If I go Netbook way, it shall be definitely HP - much components still come
from Asia, but it's an American co, so taxes/some jobs still get reatined in
the West.
Next choice is QCZ - Japanese, and it's DIY (they sell you a shell you cna
fill with memory and SSD of your own choice).

It's a good solution, but still maybe something more rugged, like ebook
reader or KINDLE.

Thanks for a response, but will wait for more.

You should try also - get out of noise, crowds, FAMILY, coworkers and into
some park and think.
I work in a regular building for 99% of work.
But then there're complex technical/design tasks for which you need an
inspiration & total silence.
I haven't been watching TV in ages.
I used to listen to Metal or Heavy music in general, now it's either silence
or Classical when I work...

 
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Bill Sharpe
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      10-01-2009
STAN STARINSKI wrote:
> I deal with megatons of PDF docs e.g. datahseets, manuals, etc.
> It's mostly text. As I've been doing computers for decades & health is
> my priority, not something in "background" I have SUPER healthy
> environment such as all-black background, silver-colored fonts, no
> distractions/graphics, brightness at zero, contrast at comfortably low
> setting which is in hardware + nVidia videodriver, my graphics is 512MB
> nVidia GeForceMobile.
> It's too long to explain but everything is as good as it gets.
>
> AND YET IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
> The bright ideas don't arrive into your head in the office, in bright
> light while a bunch of people swarm around, you can hear peeing in the
> toilet, PHONES, etc.
> I use earplugs 34NRR rating, blue things that far exceed so-called noise
> reduction headphones (which are a ripoff).
>
> Do you kno whwere bright ideas get born?
> In a park, woods, the bench, MY CAR - the best, I sit alone in total
> silence, no cellphones, no dorks of my neighborhood - I just drive out
> to s State/National Park and that's where I work on complex problems.
> I need all these PDF's with me.
> Printing is not an option you obviously understand. One Datasheet for
> Microchip PIC18F4420 is 421 pages, and I need like a dozen of things of
> this sort with me.
>
> So anyone can suggest a solution?
> My plan is the following, bu tmaybe someone cna sugegst better?
>
> a) Get Amazon Kindle - its Epaper does not emit light, but instead
> REFLECTS light so it's the closest you can get to paper.
> Despit emy laptop being ultrahealthy and all dark, it's still an LCD,
> sunlight blinds it, ewtc, etc bu tmost important you STILL get stuff
> emitted into your eyes even though it's nowhere close to old CRT/tube
> monitors of th eancient era, it's still not paper.
> You know the feeling flipping pages?
> Nothing can replace it, paper is still indispensable.
> Things like Kindle, Ebook redaer from Ectaco, etc come closest to it.
> The Problem is cost - $300, and Ectaco unit has this megaproblem - you
> can't resize fonts/zoom & jump to arbitrary page in a PDF, so in a 420
> page doc you have to scroll thru 400 pages to get to 401st?
> It draws no energy when text is static, good, but still... $300 in this
> tight economy for something that can only display text and o nothing else.
>
> b) Get a NETBOOK, but it's nothing more than a small laptop, it's still
> using LCD and energy.
> The plus is that it can do anything else besides displaying text
> (Kindle) and no PDF problems unline Ectaco
> If Kindle can do more than simple reading, than price shoots upto to a
> Nertbook or even a laptop cost, so why bother?
>
> c) I am mor einclined to get a Netbook with OLED display, but Kindle is
> still in my head
>
> Any suggestions?


You can print two pages on one sheet and also print on both sides of the
paper to save on paper costs.

a couple of other suggestions, not computer related:
Visit a shrink for some attitude adjustment. Get used to a little noise.
Visit a quiet bar with a happy hour.
Try pencil and paper -- saves energy but not forests. Staples was
selling a pack of eight #2 Dixon pencils for 50 cents recently.

I'll second the spell checker reply.

Bill
 
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      10-01-2009
STAN STARINSKI wrote:
> I deal with megatons of PDF docs e.g. datahseets, manuals, etc.
> It's mostly text. As I've been doing computers for decades & health is
> my priority, not something in "background" I have SUPER healthy
> environment such as all-black background, silver-colored fonts, no
> distractions/graphics, brightness at zero, contrast at comfortably low
> setting which is in hardware + nVidia videodriver, my graphics is 512MB
> nVidia GeForceMobile.
> It's too long to explain but everything is as good as it gets.
>
> AND YET IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
> The bright ideas don't arrive into your head in the office, in bright
> light while a bunch of people swarm around, you can hear peeing in the
> toilet, PHONES, etc.
> I use earplugs 34NRR rating, blue things that far exceed so-called noise
> reduction headphones (which are a ripoff).
>
> Do you kno whwere bright ideas get born?
> In a park, woods, the bench, MY CAR - the best, I sit alone in total
> silence, no cellphones, no dorks of my neighborhood - I just drive out
> to s State/National Park and that's where I work on complex problems.
> I need all these PDF's with me.
> Printing is not an option you obviously understand. One Datasheet for
> Microchip PIC18F4420 is 421 pages, and I need like a dozen of things of
> this sort with me.
>
> So anyone can suggest a solution?
> My plan is the following, bu tmaybe someone cna sugegst better?
>
> a) Get Amazon Kindle - its Epaper does not emit light, but instead
> REFLECTS light so it's the closest you can get to paper.
> Despit emy laptop being ultrahealthy and all dark, it's still an LCD,
> sunlight blinds it, ewtc, etc bu tmost important you STILL get stuff
> emitted into your eyes even though it's nowhere close to old CRT/tube
> monitors of th eancient era, it's still not paper.
> You know the feeling flipping pages?
> Nothing can replace it, paper is still indispensable.
> Things like Kindle, Ebook redaer from Ectaco, etc come closest to it.
> The Problem is cost - $300, and Ectaco unit has this megaproblem - you
> can't resize fonts/zoom & jump to arbitrary page in a PDF, so in a 420
> page doc you have to scroll thru 400 pages to get to 401st?
> It draws no energy when text is static, good, but still... $300 in this
> tight economy for something that can only display text and o nothing else.
>
> b) Get a NETBOOK, but it's nothing more than a small laptop, it's still
> using LCD and energy.
> The plus is that it can do anything else besides displaying text
> (Kindle) and no PDF problems unline Ectaco
> If Kindle can do more than simple reading, than price shoots upto to a
> Nertbook or even a laptop cost, so why bother?
>
> c) I am mor einclined to get a Netbook with OLED display, but Kindle is
> still in my head
>
> Any suggestions?


Have you considered a large LCD monitor (24" or larger) that can rotate
90 degrees to portrait mode? You could then set your text large as
needed and sit several feet back from the monitor. If you use a
bluetooth mouse/keyboard, the distance would not be an issue.

--
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- Linus Torvalds

DRM and unintended consequences:
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/se...35&tag=nl.e101
 
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      10-01-2009
Stan honey, you know that you need to take your medicine. By the way your
boss called. He said to bring back the bucket when you get to work. They
have no place to store the mop when cleaning the floors.

Your boss also said you could get a Hard Taco on your lunch break for free.
Think outside the bun.


 
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MARTHA STARINSKI
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      10-01-2009
Honey,

Stop being such an ass. You know you shouldn't be playing here. The doctor
called and wants you to take your medicine.


 
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STAN STARINSKI
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      10-02-2009
> I don't even have TV service.

Either joking or extreme. Limiting watching time is one thing, not having a
TV completely is another thing & not a good thing.
The Amish, Orthodox jews, & such are not gaining by not having a TV totally.

AT least once a week maybe you could take a peek at the WORLD.
With global NewsNetworks, Discovery, Science channel, History, DIY, HD
Theater, and such - it can be useful to expand your horizon.
Of course various talk shows, Judge Judy and various superficial, empty
things are not things I have a TV for.
But there's another side and a little Discovery or History doesn't hurt.

 
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STAN STARINSKI
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      10-02-2009
Change name to Peter Files.
You no longer qualify to be Folders (not to mention Drives).
 
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STAN STARINSKI
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      10-02-2009
You don't need to tell me about 2-side printing as I was insisting on it
back in the day when America was happy, sandwiches were oversized, and Bill
Clinton has just began his tenure track.
Back in the day they thought I am "the guy who saves every crumble, bit,
nut, screw & of course CHEAP paper).

Now it's common.
I do print on both sides, besides - one sided printing means you carry
double weight and need to flip thru double number of pages.

Now the most important part of your advise, sir, is about a shrink.
I want you to know ONE THING:

I am today 38.

I look at early 20's and girls down to 18 never suspect. OK?
I am probably doing something right, because our Vice President when he
learned I am near his age, changed his face and got depressed. He does look
at 40.
His display is very bright, he drinks coffee every morning, keeps cellphone
on, brings in meaty/chicken stuff from a local fast food joint, and drives a
lot, and just wouldn't walk for even half-hour to get food.
And he likes it warm in the winter, and AC full blown in the summer, and so
what?

Bottom line you folks will die before me.
Because you're like those actors in early 20th century movies where everyone
smokes, and you're not a gentleman or a lady if a cigar is not sticking form
your mouth.
Decades later we discovered, that well - smoking is "bad"

AND YOU TOO will discover when your eyes get sick that well, bright/white
monitors are "bad".
Until then you'll be a happy puppy, confident that you're "normal" & people
like me need a shrink.
I should mention my grandgrandmother lived to 106 & died from boredom, from
missing her husband who died in his early 90's, and lack of will to live any
longer, not from a physical desease.
Same with some of my other relatives from whom I derive inspiration.

The bottom line:
I will continue using Black backgrounds, dark displays, black/hard/organic
bread made of nothing but rye, never turn a cellphone other than to talk &
read messages, walk whenever possible (not drive), use a bike if possible.
My computer looks like a piece of Gothic Art. If yours looks like a flashy
toy with blue, red & green lights, and a bright display which can light up a
room at night - that's your choice.

Have a nice day, Sir.

 
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