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Dan DeCoursey
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      06-26-2007
Hello

My friend tells me he has installed updates....but has not restarted and
that he then sees "install updates then shutdown " as an option when
shutting down....... he thinks that at this point if he just does a restart
that he will still see the "install updates and shutdown" option on his
shutodwn menu....he thinks that if ,at this point, he only does a restart
that the updates do not get installed/finalized and that he will only get
them appied by doing the shutdown.......

is he confused ? . ..I know I am just trytng to write this out
 
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Shenan Stanley
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      06-26-2007
Dan DeCoursey wrote:
> My friend tells me he has installed updates....but has not
> restarted and that he then sees "install updates then shutdown
> " as an option when shutting down....... he thinks that at this
> point if he just does a restart that he will still see the "install
> updates and shutdown" option on his shutodwn menu....he thinks that
> if ,at this point, he only does a restart that the updates do not
> get installed/finalized and that he will only get them appied by
> doing the shutdown.......
>
> is he confused ? . ..I know I am just trytng to write this out


Sounds like he did *not* install *all* updates and there are some that still
want to install.

In reality - this is a non-issue. In the time it takes to post, wait on a
response, get a response, interpret the response, reply to it if necessary -
your friend could...

1) Restart.
2) Visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
3) Scan for and install critical updates (if you do not have IE7/MP11 - I
recommend LEAVING things that way - do not install them. If you do already
have them - just get all the critical updates.)
4) Restart again.
5) Change the way they receive updates to 'Download and Notify'.

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Dan DeCoursey
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      06-26-2007
Sorry to have bothered you ....go on back up on your high horse in the
futer please do not reply to my piddly non issues

"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> Dan DeCoursey wrote:
> > My friend tells me he has installed updates....but has not
> > restarted and that he then sees "install updates then shutdown
> > " as an option when shutting down....... he thinks that at this
> > point if he just does a restart that he will still see the "install
> > updates and shutdown" option on his shutodwn menu....he thinks that
> > if ,at this point, he only does a restart that the updates do not
> > get installed/finalized and that he will only get them appied by
> > doing the shutdown.......
> >
> > is he confused ? . ..I know I am just trytng to write this out

>
> Sounds like he did *not* install *all* updates and there are some that still
> want to install.
>
> In reality - this is a non-issue. In the time it takes to post, wait on a
> response, get a response, interpret the response, reply to it if necessary -
> your friend could...
>
> 1) Restart.
> 2) Visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
> 3) Scan for and install critical updates (if you do not have IE7/MP11 - I
> recommend LEAVING things that way - do not install them. If you do already
> have them - just get all the critical updates.)
> 4) Restart again.
> 5) Change the way they receive updates to 'Download and Notify'.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

 
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Shenan Stanley
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      06-26-2007
Dan DeCoursey wrote:
> My friend tells me he has installed updates....but has not
> restarted and that he then sees "install updates then
> shutdown " as an option when shutting down....... he thinks that
> at this point if he just does a restart that he will still see
> the "install updates and shutdown" option on his shutodwn
> menu....he thinks that if ,at this point, he only does a restart
> that the updates do not get installed/finalized and that he will
> only get them appied by doing the shutdown.......
>
> is he confused ? . ..I know I am just trytng to write this out


Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Sounds like he did *not* install *all* updates and there are some
> that still want to install.
>
> In reality - this is a non-issue. In the time it takes to post,
> wait on a response, get a response, interpret the response, reply
> to it if necessary - your friend could...
>
> 1) Restart.
> 2) Visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
> 3) Scan for and install critical updates (if you do not have
> IE7/MP11 - I recommend LEAVING things that way - do not install
> them. If you do already have them - just get all the critical
> updates.) 4) Restart again.
> 5) Change the way they receive updates to 'Download and Notify'.


Dan DeCoursey wrote:
> Sorry to have bothered you ....go on back up on your high horse
> in the futer please do not reply to my piddly non issues


A little touchy, aren't we?
Especially considering the problem is 'your friends' and not yours?

All I am saying is logical. Why ask what is going ot happen when you could
just do it and see what happens. Sooner or later that has to happen either
way. And after it does - your friend will know what happens.

It's not like you are asking "what happens if my friend boots up with a wipe
CD and wipes the system?", your asking what happens when he chooses one well
worded option instead of another. ("Restart" or "Install updates and
Shutdown".)

If it does not say "Install the updates and restart", then choosing
"Restart" will not install the updates. If it says "Install the updates and
shutdown" - then (with patience) the updates will be installed and the
system will shutdown afterwards. If it says "Shutdown", then the updates
will not be installed and the system will shutdown. If it is giving the
choice of "install the updates", then Windows XP has not acknowledged the
updates have been installed and until it does acknowledge it - (or your
friend changes the way they have chosen to receive updates) - it will
continue to have those options at shutdown.

Your friend may THINK they installed updates - and maybe they did and the
'switch' to let the shutdown message know was not flipped. Maybe they did
not and visiting the http://windowsupdates.microsoft.com/ page will show
them what updates they still can install. But the fact is - no one can tell
you for sure but your friend when they actually try to do it.

Sorry you think my logical approach is me being on some 'high-horse'.

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