Need help with deleting contact out of blocked contact list!!!!!

Hello there,

I have a problem and am hoping that somebody might be able to help.

I have been trying to get rid off a contact which is currently on my blocked
list by going to Tools, Options and then Privacy. If I left click the contact
it doesn't give me the option the delete it, it does with all the other
contacts in the list, whether they are blocked or not.
I am puzzled, I even tried deinstalling MSN and downloading it again, but
it's storing all the data and nothing changes.

Can anybody help?

Thanks in advance,
Nicole

Hi Nicole,

You will only be able to delete this contact from this list once he/she
deleted you too (same goes for the allow list you see in there).
--

Sunshine
Windows Live Butterfly
http://SunshineWeb.org

"hollew" <> wrote in message
news:8BF66B32-2057-4761-886F-...
> Hello there,
>
> I have a problem and am hoping that somebody might be able to help.
>
> I have been trying to get rid off a contact which is currently on my
> blocked
> list by going to Tools, Options and then Privacy. If I left click the
> contact
> it doesn't give me the option the delete it, it does with all the other
> contacts in the list, whether they are blocked or not.
> I am puzzled, I even tried deinstalling MSN and downloading it again, but
> it's storing all the data and nothing changes.
>
> Can anybody help?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Nicole

Sunshine ... please explain what you mean ... what does the blocked contact
have to do with blocking the contact in your machine ... I am very new to
Messenger. In fact, I have never used it. It has just been installed on my
machine. This will be the first time I have installed and used _any_ instant
messenger app.

I am really confused about this ... instead of blocking a contact, why
wouldn't I just delete the contact? Why would I block the contact?

Please give some Total Novice advice on how this works ... thanks very much
..... vanilla


"Sunshine" <corneliakoopmans[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi Nicole,
>
> You will only be able to delete this contact from this list once he/she
> deleted you too (same goes for the allow list you see in there).
> --
>
> Sunshine
> Windows Live Butterfly
> http://SunshineWeb.org
>
> "hollew" <> wrote in message
> news:8BF66B32-2057-4761-886F-...
>> Hello there,
>>
>> I have a problem and am hoping that somebody might be able to help.
>>
>> I have been trying to get rid off a contact which is currently on my
>> blocked
>> list by going to Tools, Options and then Privacy. If I left click the
>> contact
>> it doesn't give me the option the delete it, it does with all the other
>> contacts in the list, whether they are blocked or not.
>> I am puzzled, I even tried deinstalling MSN and downloading it again, but
>> it's storing all the data and nothing changes.
>>
>> Can anybody help?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Nicole
>

Here's how it works.

Someone can still write you even if you delete them.

If you have them blocked then they cannot write you.

It's best if you do not want them contacting you to just leave them in the
blocked list.

"vanilla" <> wrote in message
news:OjLCTu$...
> Sunshine ... please explain what you mean ... what does the blocked
> contact have to do with blocking the contact in your machine ... I am very
> new to Messenger. In fact, I have never used it. It has just been
> installed on my machine. This will be the first time I have installed and
> used _any_ instant messenger app.
>
> I am really confused about this ... instead of blocking a contact, why
> wouldn't I just delete the contact? Why would I block the contact?
>
> Please give some Total Novice advice on how this works ... thanks very
> much .... vanilla
>
>
> "Sunshine" <corneliakoopmans[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Hi Nicole,
>>
>> You will only be able to delete this contact from this list once he/she
>> deleted you too (same goes for the allow list you see in there).
>> --
>>
>> Sunshine
>> Windows Live Butterfly
>> http://SunshineWeb.org
>>
>> "hollew" <> wrote in message
>> news:8BF66B32-2057-4761-886F-...
>>> Hello there,
>>>
>>> I have a problem and am hoping that somebody might be able to help.
>>>
>>> I have been trying to get rid off a contact which is currently on my
>>> blocked
>>> list by going to Tools, Options and then Privacy. If I left click the
>>> contact
>>> it doesn't give me the option the delete it, it does with all the other
>>> contacts in the list, whether they are blocked or not.
>>> I am puzzled, I even tried deinstalling MSN and downloading it again,
>>> but
>>> it's storing all the data and nothing changes.
>>>
>>> Can anybody help?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Nicole
>>

Thanks, Shane ... I appreciate the reply ... the part I don't understand is
this: ... "You will only be able to delete this contact from this list
[Blocked List?] once he/she deleted you too ... <snip> "

How can it be that I can't delete someone from my Blocked List unless they
delete me ... from where? The Blocked List in their software? A regular
contact in their software? You should be able to delete something from your
Blocked List regardless of whether or not someone else's software has your
name in it ... I am not understanding what the writer means here ...

Forgive me for being dense here ... I guess instant messaging software is
not like e-mail software ... if I don't want to read something from someone,
I just write a rule to have their stuff go directly to the Deleted Items
folder. I guess I should start by reading all of the help files for
Messenger so I can get a feel for how instant messaging works. Thanks anyway
for trying ... vanilla


"Shane Nokes" <> wrote in message
news:6BE52ED6-F22A-48F2-9E5A-...
> Here's how it works.
>
> Someone can still write you even if you delete them.
>
> If you have them blocked then they cannot write you.
>
> It's best if you do not want them contacting you to just leave them in the
> blocked list.
>
> "vanilla" <> wrote in message
> news:OjLCTu$...
>> Sunshine ... please explain what you mean ... what does the blocked
>> contact have to do with blocking the contact in your machine ... I am
>> very new to Messenger. In fact, I have never used it. It has just been
>> installed on my machine. This will be the first time I have installed and
>> used _any_ instant messenger app.
>>
>> I am really confused about this ... instead of blocking a contact, why
>> wouldn't I just delete the contact? Why would I block the contact?
>>
>> Please give some Total Novice advice on how this works ... thanks very
>> much .... vanilla
>>
>>
>> "Sunshine" <corneliakoopmans[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Hi Nicole,
>>>
>>> You will only be able to delete this contact from this list once he/she
>>> deleted you too (same goes for the allow list you see in there).
>>> --
>>>
>>> Sunshine
>>> Windows Live Butterfly
>>> http://SunshineWeb.org
>>>
>>> "hollew" <> wrote in message
>>> news:8BF66B32-2057-4761-886F-...
>>>> Hello there,
>>>>
>>>> I have a problem and am hoping that somebody might be able to help.
>>>>
>>>> I have been trying to get rid off a contact which is currently on my
>>>> blocked
>>>> list by going to Tools, Options and then Privacy. If I left click the
>>>> contact
>>>> it doesn't give me the option the delete it, it does with all the other
>>>> contacts in the list, whether they are blocked or not.
>>>> I am puzzled, I even tried deinstalling MSN and downloading it again,
>>>> but
>>>> it's storing all the data and nothing changes.
>>>>
>>>> Can anybody help?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Nicole
>>>

Greetings,

This is just confusing because there's multiple lists. There's the main contact list (what
you see when you open up Messenger) which you know as your list of contacts.

There's an allow list which contains all the contacts you "allow" to talk to you and a block
list which contains all the contacts that can't talk to you.

When you remove a contact from the main list, they still remain in the allow and blocked
lists, which you already know you can see from the Tools menu, Options, Privacy category. As
such, as Shane indicated, you can allow someone to communicate with you that isn't on your
main contact list (by keeping them on the Allow list).

Now, you can only Delete someone from the Allow/Blocked lists if they've removed you from
their -main- contact list. Otherwise the Delete option remains grayed out and you can't
delete them.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
--


"vanilla" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Thanks, Shane ... I appreciate the reply ... the part I don't understand is this: ... "You
> will only be able to delete this contact from this list [Blocked List?] once he/she deleted
> you too ... <snip> "
>
> How can it be that I can't delete someone from my Blocked List unless they delete me ...
> from where? The Blocked List in their software? A regular contact in their software? You
> should be able to delete something from your Blocked List regardless of whether or not
> someone else's software has your name in it ... I am not understanding what the writer
> means here ...
>
> Forgive me for being dense here ... I guess instant messaging software is not like e-mail
> software ... if I don't want to read something from someone, I just write a rule to have
> their stuff go directly to the Deleted Items folder. I guess I should start by reading all
> of the help files for Messenger so I can get a feel for how instant messaging works. Thanks
> anyway for trying ... vanilla
>
>
> "Shane Nokes" <> wrote in message
> news:6BE52ED6-F22A-48F2-9E5A-...
>> Here's how it works.
>>
>> Someone can still write you even if you delete them.
>>
>> If you have them blocked then they cannot write you.
>>
>> It's best if you do not want them contacting you to just leave them in the blocked list.
>>
>> "vanilla" <> wrote in message
>> news:OjLCTu$...
>>> Sunshine ... please explain what you mean ... what does the blocked contact have to do
>>> with blocking the contact in your machine ... I am very new to Messenger. In fact, I have
>>> never used it. It has just been installed on my machine. This will be the first time I
>>> have installed and used _any_ instant messenger app.
>>>
>>> I am really confused about this ... instead of blocking a contact, why wouldn't I just
>>> delete the contact? Why would I block the contact?
>>>
>>> Please give some Total Novice advice on how this works ... thanks very much ....
>>> vanilla
>>>
>>>
>>> "Sunshine" <corneliakoopmans[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> Hi Nicole,
>>>>
>>>> You will only be able to delete this contact from this list once he/she deleted you too
>>>> (same goes for the allow list you see in there).
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Sunshine
>>>> Windows Live Butterfly
>>>> http://SunshineWeb.org
>>>>
>>>> "hollew" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:8BF66B32-2057-4761-886F-...
>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a problem and am hoping that somebody might be able to help.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been trying to get rid off a contact which is currently on my blocked
>>>>> list by going to Tools, Options and then Privacy. If I left click the contact
>>>>> it doesn't give me the option the delete it, it does with all the other
>>>>> contacts in the list, whether they are blocked or not.
>>>>> I am puzzled, I even tried deinstalling MSN and downloading it again, but
>>>>> it's storing all the data and nothing changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anybody help?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>> Nicole
>>>>

Ah! Now I get it ... thank you very much ... as I said, I have not used any
instant messaging program before, and I am glad to find this out before I
start ... thank you for your patience and kind response

vanilla


"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:1DED262D-54D1-451B-879C-...
> Greetings,
>
> This is just confusing because there's multiple lists. There's the main
> contact list (what you see when you open up Messenger) which you know as
> your list of contacts.
>
> There's an allow list which contains all the contacts you "allow" to talk
> to you and a block list which contains all the contacts that can't talk to
> you.
>
> When you remove a contact from the main list, they still remain in the
> allow and blocked lists, which you already know you can see from the Tools
> menu, Options, Privacy category. As such, as Shane indicated, you can
> allow someone to communicate with you that isn't on your main contact list
> (by keeping them on the Allow list).
>
> Now, you can only Delete someone from the Allow/Blocked lists if they've
> removed you from their -main- contact list. Otherwise the Delete option
> remains grayed out and you can't delete them.
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> --
>
>
> "vanilla" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Thanks, Shane ... I appreciate the reply ... the part I don't understand
>> is this: ... "You will only be able to delete this contact from this
>> list [Blocked List?] once he/she deleted you too ... <snip> "
>>
>> How can it be that I can't delete someone from my Blocked List unless
>> they delete me ... from where? The Blocked List in their software? A
>> regular contact in their software? You should be able to delete something
>> from your Blocked List regardless of whether or not someone else's
>> software has your name in it ... I am not understanding what the writer
>> means here ...
>>
>> Forgive me for being dense here ... I guess instant messaging software is
>> not like e-mail software ... if I don't want to read something from
>> someone, I just write a rule to have their stuff go directly to the
>> Deleted Items folder. I guess I should start by reading all of the help
>> files for Messenger so I can get a feel for how instant messaging works.
>> Thanks anyway for trying ... vanilla
>>
>>
>> "Shane Nokes" <> wrote in message
>> news:6BE52ED6-F22A-48F2-9E5A-...
>>> Here's how it works.
>>>
>>> Someone can still write you even if you delete them.
>>>
>>> If you have them blocked then they cannot write you.
>>>
>>> It's best if you do not want them contacting you to just leave them in
>>> the blocked list.
>>>
>>> "vanilla" <> wrote in message
>>> news:OjLCTu$...
>>>> Sunshine ... please explain what you mean ... what does the blocked
>>>> contact have to do with blocking the contact in your machine ... I am
>>>> very new to Messenger. In fact, I have never used it. It has just been
>>>> installed on my machine. This will be the first time I have installed
>>>> and used _any_ instant messenger app.
>>>>
>>>> I am really confused about this ... instead of blocking a contact, why
>>>> wouldn't I just delete the contact? Why would I block the contact?
>>>>
>>>> Please give some Total Novice advice on how this works ... thanks very
>>>> much .... vanilla
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Sunshine" <corneliakoopmans[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> Hi Nicole,
>>>>>
>>>>> You will only be able to delete this contact from this list once
>>>>> he/she deleted you too (same goes for the allow list you see in
>>>>> there).
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Sunshine
>>>>> Windows Live Butterfly
>>>>> http://SunshineWeb.org
>>>>>
>>>>> "hollew" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:8BF66B32-2057-4761-886F-...
>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a problem and am hoping that somebody might be able to help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been trying to get rid off a contact which is currently on my
>>>>>> blocked
>>>>>> list by going to Tools, Options and then Privacy. If I left click the
>>>>>> contact
>>>>>> it doesn't give me the option the delete it, it does with all the
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> contacts in the list, whether they are blocked or not.
>>>>>> I am puzzled, I even tried deinstalling MSN and downloading it again,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> it's storing all the data and nothing changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anybody help?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>> Nicole
>>>>>
>

Hi,

To be honest, this model is pretty unique to Windows Live Messenger as other instant
messaging implementations/applications/networks work differently from this too.

Anyway, glad to be of assistance and hope you enjoy the world that is Messenger

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
--


"vanilla" <> wrote in message
news:#...
> Ah! Now I get it ... thank you very much ... as I said, I have not used any instant
> messaging program before, and I am glad to find this out before I start ... thank you for
> your patience and kind response
>
> vanilla
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:1DED262D-54D1-451B-879C-...
>> Greetings,
>>
>> This is just confusing because there's multiple lists. There's the main contact list
>> (what you see when you open up Messenger) which you know as your list of contacts.
>>
>> There's an allow list which contains all the contacts you "allow" to talk to you and a
>> block list which contains all the contacts that can't talk to you.
>>
>> When you remove a contact from the main list, they still remain in the allow and blocked
>> lists, which you already know you can see from the Tools menu, Options, Privacy category.
>> As such, as Shane indicated, you can allow someone to communicate with you that isn't on
>> your main contact list (by keeping them on the Allow list).
>>
>> Now, you can only Delete someone from the Allow/Blocked lists if they've removed you from
>> their -main- contact list. Otherwise the Delete option remains grayed out and you can't
>> delete them.
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>> --
>>
>>
>> "vanilla" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Thanks, Shane ... I appreciate the reply ... the part I don't understand is this: ...
>>> "You will only be able to delete this contact from this list [Blocked List?] once he/she
>>> deleted you too ... <snip> "
>>>
>>> How can it be that I can't delete someone from my Blocked List unless they delete me ...
>>> from where? The Blocked List in their software? A regular contact in their software? You
>>> should be able to delete something from your Blocked List regardless of whether or not
>>> someone else's software has your name in it ... I am not understanding what the writer
>>> means here ...
>>>
>>> Forgive me for being dense here ... I guess instant messaging software is not like e-mail
>>> software ... if I don't want to read something from someone, I just write a rule to have
>>> their stuff go directly to the Deleted Items folder. I guess I should start by reading
>>> all of the help files for Messenger so I can get a feel for how instant messaging works.
>>> Thanks anyway for trying ... vanilla
>>>
>>>
>>> "Shane Nokes" <> wrote in message
>>> news:6BE52ED6-F22A-48F2-9E5A-...
>>>> Here's how it works.
>>>>
>>>> Someone can still write you even if you delete them.
>>>>
>>>> If you have them blocked then they cannot write you.
>>>>
>>>> It's best if you do not want them contacting you to just leave them in the blocked list.
>>>>
>>>> "vanilla" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:OjLCTu$...
>>>>> Sunshine ... please explain what you mean ... what does the blocked contact have to do
>>>>> with blocking the contact in your machine ... I am very new to Messenger. In fact, I
>>>>> have never used it. It has just been installed on my machine. This will be the first
>>>>> time I have installed and used _any_ instant messenger app.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am really confused about this ... instead of blocking a contact, why wouldn't I just
>>>>> delete the contact? Why would I block the contact?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please give some Total Novice advice on how this works ... thanks very much ....
>>>>> vanilla
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Sunshine" <corneliakoopmans[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:...
>>>>>> Hi Nicole,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You will only be able to delete this contact from this list once he/she deleted you
>>>>>> too (same goes for the allow list you see in there).
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sunshine
>>>>>> Windows Live Butterfly
>>>>>> http://SunshineWeb.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "hollew" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:8BF66B32-2057-4761-886F-...
>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a problem and am hoping that somebody might be able to help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been trying to get rid off a contact which is currently on my blocked
>>>>>>> list by going to Tools, Options and then Privacy. If I left click the contact
>>>>>>> it doesn't give me the option the delete it, it does with all the other
>>>>>>> contacts in the list, whether they are blocked or not.
>>>>>>> I am puzzled, I even tried deinstalling MSN and downloading it again, but
>>>>>>> it's storing all the data and nothing changes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can anybody help?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>> Nicole
>>>>>>
>>

>Now, you can only Delete someone from the Allow/Blocked lists if they've
>removed you from their -main- contact list. Otherwise the Delete option
>remains grayed out and you can't delete them.


The problem with this function is this... People create new accounts all the
time, and completely abandon the other one. Eventually you end up with
allow/block list full of inactive accounts, but can't tidy up your
allow/block list because of it. As is I use the "All others" on BLOCK LIST
just to eliminate spam messages, so technically these people would be blocked
anyways since they're not on my allow list or my messenger list...