I've never tried the virtual machine approach (in my test I used a old
workstation) but I see no reason it wouldn't work. Just boot the VM on the
SP CDROM and load the image using HIR. One note on HIR that got me when I
was testing it - you need to have SP installed on the source server before
imaging and doing an HIR to another server otherwise HIR doesn't work
(licensing thing).
As for copying backups around I just use NT cmd files that robocopy them
around. I rotate several WEEK1/WEEK2/etc. directories to keep older backups
around. Even with image based backup I like to do a full image on the
weekend and then incremental throughout the week. They also support
continuous incremental (like SBS2008 backup) but I like having multiple
older backups in case corruption occurs and affects future incrementals.
I agree with Dave that if you haven't bought your USB drives a cage-type
system may be the way to go, especially if they support automatic mirroring.
Not sure about NAS - they may be slower and unsure of SP support for them.
--
Allan Williams
Scott Rymer wrote:
> Allan... thanks so much. I'm very interested after reading a little
> on their website and seeing that this is a very affordable solution.
> Yes, our hardware is getting older as well and I'm starting to feel
> insecure about it but don't really want to replace it since it's been
> rock solid since day one.
>
> So if I'm reading correctly, with SP, if our SBS were to go down hard
> (motherboard failure), I could restore the last SBS backup to a MS
> Virtual Server running elsewhere and keep on chugging along while my
> "real" SBS is repaired, and then restore the virtual SBS back onto
> the physical server? Am I dreaming?
>
> I like the idea of having the local IDE/SATA drive on the server and
> then copying to removable storage for offsite. So do you still have
> a rotation like tape or does the image based backup preclude needing
> this type of strategy for USB?
>
> Appreciate all your help!
>
> -Scott
>
> "Al Williams" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Sounds very similar to our old situation - using tape and having to
>> do custom backups with NTBackup to make them fit, wondering if you
>> missed anything, wondering if you could handle a full disaster
>> recovery... We switched over to ShadowProtect SBS (SP) last year and
>> haven't
>> looked back. I am able to do backups every 2 hours during the day
>> without issues (how often you can backup is based more on the size
>> of your backup drives). It integrates fully into VSS so Exchange &
>> SQL are fully backed up using MS-methods. Their hardware
>> independent restore (HIR) really works and their backup system is
>> much quicker and efficient than using NTBackup any day. It also
>> works with SBS2008 (although 2008's native backup has gotten good
>> reviews but I am unsure that it can handle HIR).
>> http://www.storagecraft.com/shadow_protect_SBS.php
>>
>> Best part, it was easy to actually test and document a disaster
>> recovery scenario -- I could restore my SBS server
>> OS/exchange/SQL/ISA to completely different hardware in an hour (a
>> little longer with all our data) plug in a domain laptop and go --
>> it worked flawlessly (once you update drivers, etc.) and has saved
>> me some sleep as our server hardware is a little older than it
>> should be ;-) Some notes on how I use SP:
>>
>> 1) Schedule a NTBackup system state backup once a week when SP is not
>> running just in case you need it.
>> 2) To allow exchange logfiles to be properly handled you need to
>> turn on the exchange VSS writer. Note that doing this precludes
>> using SBSBackup but it sounds like you weren't using it anyway
>> (workaround:
>> http://blog.sbs-rocks.com/2009/06/be...nd-sbs-backup/)
>> 3) I find it best to throw in a large un-raided IDE/SATA drive in
>> the server and backup to that. I then use robocopy scripts
>> triggered to run after SP finishes to copy the backups to multiple
>> locations (including our external USB drive). You can have SP
>> backup to the external drive directly, I just like this better as
>> the backup will still run if someone forgets the external drive. I don't
>> work for them I just really like the program, it has saved my
>> bacon a couple times already. If you email them you can download a
>> fully functional trial version.
>> --
>> Allan Williams
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott Rymer wrote:
>>> I'm going to be replacing my 72GB (3x36GB) RAID 5 with a 292GB
>>> (3x146GB) RIAD 5 and will also need to change my backup strategy.
>>> I'm currently using a DAT72 tape drive with SBS2003 and I'm slowing
>>> excluding more and more from the backup so it will fit on the tapes
>>> (don't worry... using an external USB w/ Robocopy for the rest).
>>>
>>> Keeping SBS2008 in mind, I'm contemplating just using external USB
>>> drives but I've been given a competitive quote on Backup Exec (for
>>> SBS) with a DLT 160/320 tape solution and I'm told that this is far
>>> superior to the native SBS backup. Price wise, I could buy a lot of
>>> portable external USB drives and use the free NT Backup for the
>>> price of the Backup Exec/Tape solution.
>>> I know Backup Exec includes an Exchange Agent and an add-on SQL
>>> Agent but what if I were to setup my future SBS2008 in a Hyper-V 1+1
>>> scenario? Does Backup Exec cover this as well? What about NT
>>> Backup? My gut is telling me to just go with USB drives as it seems the
>>> most
>>> popular option in the newsgroups...
>>>
>>> SBS2003 Standard with SQL 2005 Standard on another Win2k3 server.