Todd. I can't thank you enough for you time (and sympathy).
As you've kind of alluded to, I've avoided the Exchange route not just
because of the additional cost, but because other apps and data on the device
require synchronization as well.
But also --- and I don't mind saying it anymore --- I've simply lost faith
in Microsoft over the past 2.5 years. A/S and WM as well as Vista devoured
way, way too much of my time, resources, peace of mind (and data). I just
don't think it has to be this way. Searching the net shows how rampant these
problems are. I'd have great trouble putting my name on it. (This from a
staunch MS supporter since 1989. We've been at this PC stuff for a long time
now. We should be much further ahead than this.) Frankly, it's what concerns
me about Mesh, your objective comments notwithstanding.
But yes, I am ready to give up. After yesterday's morning from hell I went
in to the office where Active Sync on the Vista machine decided, once again,
that it had never seen my device before. Spent an hour unplugging,
restarting, replugging, rebooting, deleting partnerships, establishing
partnerships...
I've come home to the XP machine where my "Attention is required". Notes is
a problem again, but it won't tell me what that problem actually is. It's a
terribly busy time for me right now, so it's hard to keep up with this or
move somewhere else. So if anyone can help with this and the other issues,
I'd be eternally grateful. I just want to get back to doing my work and
living my life. If there's no ability or desire to fix these issues, then at
least until I can explore alternatives like the ones kindly suggested here.
Thanks again, Todd.
"Todd Allcock" wrote:
> Ready to give up yet? ;-)
>
> I used to tear my hair out, (what little remains that is,) trying to fix
> sync problems with AS or WMDC, but I've become more pragmatic in my older
> years.
>
> There are three decent alternatives to desktop syncing that I've found.
>
> If your budget allows ($7-12US/month), a hosted Exchange account (from a
> myriad of companies like 1&1, Apptix, Mail2Web, etc.) will not only sync PIM
> data flawlessly, but keep any number of Outlook-using devices in sync, so
> your laptop, desktop, and Windows Mobile device are always in-sync and up to
> date. This doesn't sync notes, however- just mail, contacts, and calendar.
>
> If you're a cheapskate like I am, however, there are two free options, the
> second of which handles notes.
>
> First, Google has a new, albeit limited, sync service that syncs over EAS
> (Exchange Activesync), <http://www.google.com/mobile/winmo/sync.html>, so no
> additional software needs to be installed on the phone. It syncs your
> mobile with GMail contacts and calendar, then you can use a third party sync
> tool (Oggsync, gSyncIt, etc.) to sync Google Contacts and Calendar to your
> PCs. This doesn't handle tasks or notes, however.
>
> There is also a third-party sync alternative that accomplishes pretty much
> the same thing as Exchange, plus notes- SyncML, a sync solution designed for
> a variety of devices, smartphones, "dumb" phones, PCs, etc. Synthesis, a
> commercial SyncML product gets rave reviews, though I've personally been
> using an open-source variant called Funambol <http://www.funambol.com >
> since early last summer. You install their client software on the devices
> (and PCs) you intend to sync, and they all sync with a "Funambol" server-
> either a free one you can find online (www.scheduleworld.com or
> http://my.funambol.com, for example) or, if it offends your security
> sensibilities to store your data on somebody else's server, you can install
> the Funambol server software on your own PC and sync with your own PC acting
> as the server. An advantage of using your own PC as the server (besides the
> warm fuzzy feeling of security!) is that you can direct Funambol to sync a
> "Briefcase folder" between device and PC, thereby duplicating the "Files"
> sync function of desktop Activesync, which even Exchange doesn't do. (But
> there's an alternative for this as well: Live Mesh, from our good friends at
> Microsoft, which I'll expand upon below.)
>
> Funambol syncs with Outlook via a plug-in you install on the PC. I run
> Outlook on three PCs, my desktop and two laptops, so Funambol keeps them, as
> well as my WinMo devices, all in sync without the monthly fees of an
> Exchange service. For those who don't use Outlook, or use it grudgingly
> because it's the only thing that syncs with Windows Mobile, Funambol also
> has plug-ins for other PIM programs/services, like Yahoo contacts and
> Calendar, GMail contacts, Mozilla suite (Thunderbird, etc.).
>
> If you want to give it a spin, I suggest trying Funambol out with Mark
> Swanson's excellent, and free, http://www.scheduleworld.com server, (which
> is very stable, far more so than the eternally-in-beta my.funambol.com
> server which, to be fair, really exists primarily for people to try out
> Funambol) then "graduating" to installing the Funambol server software on
> your PC if you choose to.
>
> But, as a warning, to avoid duplicate contacts and calendar items, pick a
> device (either PC or mobile) that's fully up to date to be the server's
> first source for data, and delete all PIM data from the other PC(s)/mobile
> prior to syncing them to the server, otherwise the server might not
> recognize the different devices' data as identical, and will combine them,
> possibly creating duplicates of each item.
>
> An advantage of this over your current setup, is that that you can
> painlessly keep all three devices in sync automagically- your WinMo device
> and both PCs, and do it over-the-air, without the need to cradle the device.
> I just set the PCs' and mobiles' Funambol clients to sync every couple of
> hours, and everything stays up to date without my intervention. (If your
> phone is on a metered cellular data plan, you'll want to set it to "sync
> manually" so you choose when to sync, and only do it over WiFi. I'm on an
> unlimited cellular plan, so I just let 'er rip!)
>
> I was still using Activesync once in a blue moon to sync files, like Word
> and Excel documents with my device, but I haven't synced my PIM data
> directly to my PC since last August- it's all going through Funambol
> software via Scheduleworld, which, since it syncs over the Internet, is very
> convenient- I can stay up to date without having to plug the device into a
> PC, all without any monthly fees from a hosted Exchange provider!
>
> I've all but given up on Activesync completely now, even for file sync,
> thanks to Microsoft's Live Mesh beta. (http://www.mesh.com) I've installed
> the Live Mesh software on my PC and device, and sync my device's My
> Documents folder to the Mesh, so I don't even need Activesync/WMDC for file
> sync any longer. In addition, Live Mesh lets you sync any folder on the
> device you like, so my Storage Card's My Documents folder is backed up and
> synced as well- something I used to have to do manually, since AS/WMDC is
> 'hard wired" to only sync the My Documents folder (and it's subfolders) in
> mail memory.
>
> So, while setting up Funambol and Live Mesh will be a little work, one set
> up it works fairly smoothly. And it's probably a lot less work than banging
> your head against the wall trying to fix your sync problem. Besides- no one
> wants to see a grown man cry! ;-)
>
>
> "John Ciccone" <> wrote in message
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> > So I deleted the partnership (again). Different set of errors. But the
> > most
> > perplexing was saying that it could not sync one particular note. I
> > deleted
> > that note... from both the device and the computer, and it STILL gave that
> > error.
> >
> > I disconnected, rebooted, etc. etc. That error's gone. Now it's back to
> > saynig that I cannot connect to the network again.
> >
> > Now it's also back to saying that there were problems syncing Notes. I
> > Resolve Items. It keeps coming back.
> >
> > Another day of six hours of this and it's not even noon.
> >
> > Ever see a grown man cry?