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Erehwon
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      10-31-2009
I just started using WLM with XP SP3 after many years with OE. I can't get
WLM to automatically show either new mail or newsgroup messages. Under
Tools>Options>General I have "Check for new messages every 15 minutes"
checked. Under the properties for all of my newsgroups I have checked "When
synchronizing this newsgroup, download" and "New headers". I also have
"Include this account when checking for new messages" checked for the
account. Yet, I can come back to the computer after 12 hours and no new
new messages are indicated in the inbox or newsgroups until I select them.
What am I missing. I'm not using a Windows Live ID to sign in and WLM is
running 24 hr/day on a high speed connection.


 
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Robert Aldwinckle
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      10-31-2009

"Erehwon" <> wrote in message news:...
> I just started using WLM with XP SP3 after many years with OE. I can't get
> WLM to automatically show either new mail or newsgroup messages. Under
> Tools>Options>General I have "Check for new messages every 15 minutes"
> checked. Under the properties for all of my newsgroups I have checked "When
> synchronizing this newsgroup, download" and "New headers".


> I also have "Include this account when checking for new messages" checked for the
> account. Yet, I can come back to the computer after 12 hours and no new
> new messages are indicated in the inbox or newsgroups until I select them.



Nobody has yet proved that that option does anything useful,
certainly not activate a timed Synchronize All command
the way you are assuming. Think about it, the client would have to:

For each news account which is marked for timed downloading
1. connect to the server
2. issue a LIST command (if that option was enabled) and update
any associated display values.
3. For each newsgroup under the account's subscription list
which is marked to be handled by a synchronization command
3.1.1 issue a GROUP command for the newsgroup (to check if there was
anything to do)
3.1.2 Fortunately since we have decided that the synchronization
command being simulated is Synchronize All we don't have
to be concerned about Watched message priority but I think
there might be another loop trying to find whether any headers
had previously been marked for download (either explicitly or
because a Watch flag was being used.) If so, ARTICLE commands
would have to be executed for those.
3.1.3 issue an XOVER command as necessary (to get new headers)
3.1.4 depending on the synchronization criterion loop over all the
new messages issuing ARTICLE commands for them.


Turn on troubleshooting logging for News. Do you see anything
remotely similar to all the above happening on a timed basis?
I doubt it. If anything I suspect the most that this option would do
is item 2, the LIST command (if requested) but troubleshooting logging
never shows that anyway, so the only way you could check whether
that is happening would be to run a more general trace, such as
WireShark.


> What am I missing. I'm not using a Windows Live ID to sign in and WLM is
> running 24 hr/day on a high speed connection.


I think you're being wildly optimistic but I have given you some tests
you could try to find out what your option really accomplishes. ; )


Good luck

Robert Aldwinckle
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Erehwon
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      11-01-2009

"Robert Aldwinckle" <> wrote in message
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>
> "Erehwon" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> I just started using WLM with XP SP3 after many years with OE. I can't
>> get
>> WLM to automatically show either new mail or newsgroup messages. Under
>> Tools>Options>General I have "Check for new messages every 15 minutes"
>> checked. Under the properties for all of my newsgroups I have checked
>> "When
>> synchronizing this newsgroup, download" and "New headers".

>
>> I also have "Include this account when checking for new messages" checked
>> for the
>> account. Yet, I can come back to the computer after 12 hours and no new
>> new messages are indicated in the inbox or newsgroups until I select
>> them.

>
>
> Nobody has yet proved that that option does anything useful,
> certainly not activate a timed Synchronize All command
> the way you are assuming. Think about it, the client would have to:
>
> For each news account which is marked for timed downloading
> 1. connect to the server
> 2. issue a LIST command (if that option was enabled) and update
> any associated display values.
> 3. For each newsgroup under the account's subscription list
> which is marked to be handled by a synchronization command
> 3.1.1 issue a GROUP command for the newsgroup (to check if there was
> anything to do)
> 3.1.2 Fortunately since we have decided that the synchronization
> command being simulated is Synchronize All we don't have
> to be concerned about Watched message priority but I think
> there might be another loop trying to find whether any headers
> had previously been marked for download (either explicitly or
> because a Watch flag was being used.) If so, ARTICLE commands
> would have to be executed for those.
> 3.1.3 issue an XOVER command as necessary (to get new headers)
> 3.1.4 depending on the synchronization criterion loop over all the
> new messages issuing ARTICLE commands for them.
>
>
> Turn on troubleshooting logging for News. Do you see anything
> remotely similar to all the above happening on a timed basis?
> I doubt it. If anything I suspect the most that this option would do
> is item 2, the LIST command (if requested) but troubleshooting logging
> never shows that anyway, so the only way you could check whether
> that is happening would be to run a more general trace, such as
> WireShark.
>
>
>> What am I missing. I'm not using a Windows Live ID to sign in and WLM
>> is
>> running 24 hr/day on a high speed connection.

>
> I think you're being wildly optimistic but I have given you some tests
> you could try to find out what your option really accomplishes. ; )
>
>
> Good luck
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
> ---

Thanks for the input but, unfortunately, I'm not at all familiar with the
commands you mentioned let alone the complexities of executing them. I was
simply making the "assumption" that the function of those options in WLM
would be similar to OE. Apparently, that assumption was in error.


 
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