New nVidia WHQL Graphics Drivers ver. 163.75 6 Nov. 2007

The strange thing is that with each, and every update, I drop another point
from my gaming graphics. With the Vista supplied drivers I get 3.7.

After upgrading to version 163.69 I dropped down to 3.6.

After upgrading to version 163.75 I dropped down to 3.5.

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)



"Cal Bear '66" <> wrote in message
news:542158B7-7FEC-4A48-84B4-...
> Agreed.
>
> This morning I installed the 32-bit version downloaded yesterday and the
> install went smoothly and everything seems to be running very well.
>
>
> I Bleed Blue and Gold
> GO BEARS!
>
>
> "Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>I downloaded the 32 bit version and installed. Rebooted and all is fine.
>>Well, as fine as it can be on my older system.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kue2" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> File on server is corrupted
>>>
>>> "Charlie Tame" <> wrote in message
>>> news:%...
>>>> Always uninstall the old version first, makes a mess of your desktop
>>>> but avoids other problems. Turn off AV software and security software
>>>> if you have it. Reboot before uninstall, reboot after and make the new
>>>> install before doing anything else, have the installer package already
>>>> downloaded and on your desktop so it's easy to find.
>>>>
>>>> Video drivers will bite you if they get upset during install,
>>>> especially with the 64 bit version.
>>>>
>>>> I suggest you always keep a copy of the installer package somewhere so
>>>> that next time around if a new version gives you trouble (and that does
>>>> happen) you have a nice clean way of going back just by repeating the
>>>> above but using the older package.
>>>>
>>>> A lot of people have trouble with video drivers and it seems like
>>>> trying to overwrite the old ones can't always be done, then you end up
>>>> with half old half new and blue screen. It does work sometimes but then
>>>> you never quite know how safe you are This is why you will be
>>>> advised not to let Windows Update do it for you, it's not because the
>>>> drivers are different, only the method can fall over...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jack wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for the information but for some reason I can't install the new
>>>>> driver.
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone can tell me why, I would appreciate knowing.
>>>>>
>>>>> My OS is Vista Ultimate 64 bit.. My video card is the NVIDIA GeForce
>>>>> 7900 cs...
>>>>>
>>>>> I accessed the download site and initiated the download site and
>>>>> selected
>>>>> RUN to automatically install the new driver..
>>>>>
>>>>> The driver I selected was Version 163.75 - dated November 6, 2007
>>>>> Windows Vista 64 bit, US English - 43.4 MB..
>>>>>
>>>>> The file is 163.75_forceware_winvista_64bit_English_whql.exe
>>>>>
>>>>> In the process of installing the following message popped up..
>>>>>
>>>>> "The contents of this file cannot be unpacked. The Executables you
>>>>> are attempting to run has been corrupted. Please obtain another copy
>>>>> of the file, verify its integrity and try again"
>>>>>
>>>>> I then re-downloaded the file to a folder and attempted to do a manual
>>>>> install and the same message popped up..
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions? I tried contacting NVIDIA but so far no reply..
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Cal Bear '66" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:603A5695-114D-4878-BA2F-...
>>>>>> New nVidia WHQL Graphics Drivers ver. 163.75 6 Nov. 2007
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I Bleed Blue and Gold
>>>>>> GO BEARS!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Same here -- from 4.6 to 4.4 !

Desktop stayed the same -- 4.6.

7600GS

I Bleed Blue and Gold
GO BEARS!


"Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
news:%23ww%...
> The strange thing is that with each, and every update, I drop another point
> from my gaming graphics. With the Vista supplied drivers I get 3.7.
>
> After upgrading to version 163.69 I dropped down to 3.6.
>
> After upgrading to version 163.75 I dropped down to 3.5.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
>
>
> "Cal Bear '66" <> wrote in message
> news:542158B7-7FEC-4A48-84B4-...
>> Agreed.
>>
>> This morning I installed the 32-bit version downloaded yesterday and the
>> install went smoothly and everything seems to be running very well.
>>
>>
>> I Bleed Blue and Gold
>> GO BEARS!
>>
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>>I downloaded the 32 bit version and installed. Rebooted and all is fine.
>>>Well, as fine as it can be on my older system.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard Urban
>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Kue2" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> File on server is corrupted
>>>>
>>>> "Charlie Tame" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:%...
>>>>> Always uninstall the old version first, makes a mess of your desktop but
>>>>> avoids other problems. Turn off AV software and security software if you
>>>>> have it. Reboot before uninstall, reboot after and make the new install
>>>>> before doing anything else, have the installer package already downloaded
>>>>> and on your desktop so it's easy to find.
>>>>>
>>>>> Video drivers will bite you if they get upset during install, especially
>>>>> with the 64 bit version.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suggest you always keep a copy of the installer package somewhere so
>>>>> that next time around if a new version gives you trouble (and that does
>>>>> happen) you have a nice clean way of going back just by repeating the
>>>>> above but using the older package.
>>>>>
>>>>> A lot of people have trouble with video drivers and it seems like trying
>>>>> to overwrite the old ones can't always be done, then you end up with half
>>>>> old half new and blue screen. It does work sometimes but then you never
>>>>> quite know how safe you are This is why you will be advised not to let
>>>>> Windows Update do it for you, it's not because the drivers are different,
>>>>> only the method can fall over...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jack wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks for the information but for some reason I can't install the new
>>>>>> driver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone can tell me why, I would appreciate knowing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My OS is Vista Ultimate 64 bit.. My video card is the NVIDIA GeForce
>>>>>> 7900 cs...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I accessed the download site and initiated the download site and selected
>>>>>> RUN to automatically install the new driver..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The driver I selected was Version 163.75 - dated November 6, 2007
>>>>>> Windows Vista 64 bit, US English - 43.4 MB..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The file is 163.75_forceware_winvista_64bit_English_whql.exe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the process of installing the following message popped up..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The contents of this file cannot be unpacked. The Executables you
>>>>>> are attempting to run has been corrupted. Please obtain another copy
>>>>>> of the file, verify its integrity and try again"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I then re-downloaded the file to a folder and attempted to do a manual
>>>>>> install and the same message popped up..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestions? I tried contacting NVIDIA but so far no reply..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Cal Bear '66" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:603A5695-114D-4878-BA2F-...
>>>>>>> New nVidia WHQL Graphics Drivers ver. 163.75 6 Nov. 2007
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I Bleed Blue and Gold
>>>>>>> GO BEARS!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Causes horrible flickering and horizontal tearing on my monitors when
logging on and occasionally during normal use.

Did a system restore to get back to the original Vista driver, which works
fine.

SteveT

Richard Urban wrote:
> The strange thing is that with each, and every update, I drop another
> point from my gaming graphics. With the Vista supplied drivers I get 3.7.
>
> After upgrading to version 163.69 I dropped down to 3.6.
>
> After upgrading to version 163.75 I dropped down to 3.5.
>


Hmm,

CPU 4.1
Mem 5.8
Gfx Aero 5.9
Gaming GFX 5.4
Disks 5.3

But now it says new hardware detected... so run it again...

All the same except for Gaming GFX which is now 5.2

So apparently you are not alone with those results...

OTOH we may not notice it but perhaps some of the more subtle GFX
effects like smoke are enhanced so the GFX are actually "Better", which
takes us back to Mr Jones' and my discussion of yesterday wherein we
agreed that there are several kinds of "Better", or at least I think we
sort of agreed to that.

The only thing I will agree to, at this point, is that Nvidia is confusing
the hell out of me.

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)



"Charlie Tame" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Richard Urban wrote:
>> The strange thing is that with each, and every update, I drop another
>> point from my gaming graphics. With the Vista supplied drivers I get 3.7.
>>
>> After upgrading to version 163.69 I dropped down to 3.6.
>>
>> After upgrading to version 163.75 I dropped down to 3.5.
>>
>
>
> Hmm,
>
> CPU 4.1
> Mem 5.8
> Gfx Aero 5.9
> Gaming GFX 5.4
> Disks 5.3
>
> But now it says new hardware detected... so run it again...
>
> All the same except for Gaming GFX which is now 5.2
>
> So apparently you are not alone with those results...
>
> OTOH we may not notice it but perhaps some of the more subtle GFX effects
> like smoke are enhanced so the GFX are actually "Better", which takes us
> back to Mr Jones' and my discussion of yesterday wherein we agreed that
> there are several kinds of "Better", or at least I think we sort of agreed
> to that.

"Cal Bear '66" <> wrote in message
newsFB500C5-4F34-46E6-81AA-...
> Same here -- from 4.6 to 4.4 !
>
> Desktop stayed the same -- 4.6.
>
> 7600GS
>
> I Bleed Blue and Gold
> GO BEARS!
>
>

8600 GT here. Installed 163.75 from 163.69 which was rock-solid. Saw a
bunch of little things I didn't like, colors seemed a little washed out, 3D
performance seemed a little less than 163.69 etc. Nothing major, but felt
like I downgraded instead of upgraded. Decided to try 169.04 beta before
rolling back to 163.69 WHQL.

169.04 runs very well for me. Colors and graphics are very crisp,
performance seems very good, maybe a shade less than 163.69 - (tested using
Call of Duty 4 Demo, and Bioshock) but almost unnoticeable, but overall far
better than 163.75 so I've decided to stay with the beta drivers for now.

On a final note Windows Experience Index stayed the same with 169.04 drivers
vs 163.69: 5.9 Aero, 5.5 3D performance under both.

Your mileage may vary as I heard some people didn't like 169.04 beta- but it
works very well for me. Hope this helps.

-Riff

* Richard Urban:
> The only thing I will agree to, at this point, is that Nvidia is confusing
> the hell out of me.

It seems to me, that at least since Vista Beta 2, ATI has done a much
better job with their driver support.



-Michael

I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one.

I"m pretty sure that NVIDIA's graphics driver is pretty buggy, since my
machine hasn't worked correctly since I installed it about 6 months ago when
I was running XP. Things haven't worked any better since I upgraded to Vista
Ultimate.

"Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> The only thing I will agree to, at this point, is that Nvidia is confusing
> the hell out of me.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
>
>
> "Charlie Tame" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> Richard Urban wrote:
>>> The strange thing is that with each, and every update, I drop another
>>> point from my gaming graphics. With the Vista supplied drivers I get
>>> 3.7.
>>>
>>> After upgrading to version 163.69 I dropped down to 3.6.
>>>
>>> After upgrading to version 163.75 I dropped down to 3.5.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hmm,
>>
>> CPU 4.1
>> Mem 5.8
>> Gfx Aero 5.9
>> Gaming GFX 5.4
>> Disks 5.3
>>
>> But now it says new hardware detected... so run it again...
>>
>> All the same except for Gaming GFX which is now 5.2
>>
>> So apparently you are not alone with those results...
>>
>> OTOH we may not notice it but perhaps some of the more subtle GFX effects
>> like smoke are enhanced so the GFX are actually "Better", which takes us
>> back to Mr Jones' and my discussion of yesterday wherein we agreed that
>> there are several kinds of "Better", or at least I think we sort of
>> agreed to that.
>

Bill Richards wrote:
> I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one.
>
> I"m pretty sure that NVIDIA's graphics driver is pretty buggy, since my
> machine hasn't worked correctly since I installed it about 6 months ago
> when I was running XP. Things haven't worked any better since I upgraded
> to Vista Ultimate.
>
> "Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> The only thing I will agree to, at this point, is that Nvidia is
>> confusing the hell out of me.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>>
>>
>> "Charlie Tame" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>> Richard Urban wrote:
>>>> The strange thing is that with each, and every update, I drop
>>>> another point from my gaming graphics. With the Vista supplied
>>>> drivers I get 3.7.
>>>>
>>>> After upgrading to version 163.69 I dropped down to 3.6.
>>>>
>>>> After upgrading to version 163.75 I dropped down to 3.5.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm,
>>>
>>> CPU 4.1
>>> Mem 5.8
>>> Gfx Aero 5.9
>>> Gaming GFX 5.4
>>> Disks 5.3
>>>
>>> But now it says new hardware detected... so run it again...
>>>
>>> All the same except for Gaming GFX which is now 5.2
>>>
>>> So apparently you are not alone with those results...
>>>
>>> OTOH we may not notice it but perhaps some of the more subtle GFX
>>> effects like smoke are enhanced so the GFX are actually "Better",
>>> which takes us back to Mr Jones' and my discussion of yesterday
>>> wherein we agreed that there are several kinds of "Better", or at
>>> least I think we sort of agreed to that.
>>
>


Whenever I try new drivers I file a copy somewhere so I've probably got
copies of the last 4 driver packages, it takes care of those things that
you don't notice at first. Always a way back without system restore etc...