Newsgroups on Live Mail?

I recently reinstalled Vista Home Premium 32 bit. Before this I subscribed
to newsgroups using Live Mail with no problem. Now it seems that I cannot
subscribe to newsgroups unless I use Windows Mail - can someone please
advise me differently?

The alternative is to set up my email accounts on Windows Mail also, but I
don't know the incoming and outgoing message server details of Live Mail
that are required by Windows Mail. Please help.

"beginner" <0m> wrote in message
news:#...
> I recently reinstalled Vista Home Premium 32 bit. Before this I
> subscribed to newsgroups using Live Mail with no problem. Now it seems
> that I cannot subscribe to newsgroups unless I use Windows Mail - can
> someone please advise me differently?

"I cannot subscribe" doesn't tell us much. What happens if you select Tools
> Accounts > Add > Newsgroup Account?
Try clicking this link:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...e.mail.desktop
That should open this group in your default news client. If it opened in
Windows Mail, you'll have to change the default to Windows Live Mail at the
foot of the Tools > Options > General tab.
--
Noel

Thanks for trying.
"Ildhund" <> wrote in message
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> "beginner" <0m> wrote in message
> news:#...
>> I recently reinstalled Vista Home Premium 32 bit. Before this I
>> subscribed to newsgroups using Live Mail with no problem. Now it seems
>> that I cannot subscribe to newsgroups unless I use Windows Mail - can
>> someone please advise me differently?
>
> "I cannot subscribe" doesn't tell us much. What happens if you select
> Tools
> > Accounts > Add > Newsgroup Account?
> Try clicking this link:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...e.mail.desktop
> That should open this group in your default news client. If it opened in
> Windows Mail, you'll have to change the default to Windows Live Mail at
> the foot of the Tools > Options > General tab.
> --
> Noel
>
>

The mail client program (Windows Mail or Windows Live Mail) doesn't
determine the mail servers. POP mail is a universal protocol that
is used by all mail client programs. The same mail server settings
you used in Windows Live Mail should work in Windows Mail.
The only exception is that WM doesn't handle HTTP mail.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/def...le/vandermolen


"beginner" <0m> wrote in message news:%...
>I recently reinstalled Vista Home Premium 32 bit. Before this I subscribed
> to newsgroups using Live Mail with no problem. Now it seems that I cannot
> subscribe to newsgroups unless I use Windows Mail - can someone please
> advise me differently?
>
> The alternative is to set up my email accounts on Windows Mail also, but I
> don't know the incoming and outgoing message server details of Live Mail
> that are required by Windows Mail. Please help.
>

"beginner" <0m> wrote in message
news:#...

> I recently reinstalled Vista Home Premium 32 bit. Before this I
> subscribed to newsgroups using Live Mail with no problem. Now it seems
> that I cannot subscribe to newsgroups unless I use Windows Mail - can
> someone please advise me differently?

Yes, I can advise you differently. I am posting this using "Live Mail"
(which I know as, "Windows Live Mail"). It is just a matter of setting up
the accounts.

> The alternative is to set up my email accounts on Windows Mail also, but
> I don't know the incoming and outgoing message server details of Live Mail
> that are required by Windows Mail. Please help.

Windows Live Mail (presumably your "Live Mail"; but whenever I guess at what
people mean, I am wrong about half of the time!) doesn't know the account
settings, either, more often than not. But the details required by Windows
Live Mail are the same as those required by any other client. So all you
need to do is ask your provider what those details are.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

If you want to access MS newsgroups try using "msnews.microsoft.com"



"beginner" <0m> wrote in message
news:%...
>I recently reinstalled Vista Home Premium 32 bit. Before this I subscribed
> to newsgroups using Live Mail with no problem. Now it seems that I cannot
> subscribe to newsgroups unless I use Windows Mail - can someone please
> advise me differently?
>
> The alternative is to set up my email accounts on Windows Mail also, but
> I
> don't know the incoming and outgoing message server details of Live Mail
> that are required by Windows Mail. Please help.
>

"N. Miller" <> wrote in message
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> "beginner" <0m> wrote in message
> news:#...
>
>> I recently reinstalled Vista Home Premium 32 bit. Before this I
>> subscribed to newsgroups using Live Mail with no problem. Now it seems
>> that I cannot subscribe to newsgroups unless I use Windows Mail - can
>> someone please advise me differently?
>
> Yes, I can advise you differently. I am posting this using "Live Mail"
> (which I know as, "Windows Live Mail"). It is just a matter of setting up
> the accounts.
>
This time last week (before a "system recovery" to factory default settings)
I had long been using Windows Live Mail to access newsgroup messages.
Windows Live Mail allowed me to (re)setup my email accounts BUT presents me
with a brick wall when I try to add an msnewsgroup account.
Hotmail > Add an email account > brick wall for newsgroups.
Whereas:- Windows Mail > Tools > accounts > Add an email or newsgroup
account > fill your boots.

>> The alternative is to set up my email accounts on Windows Mail also, but
>> I don't know the incoming and outgoing message server details of Live
>> Mail that are required by Windows Mail. Please help.
>
> Windows Live Mail (presumably your "Live Mail"; but whenever I guess at
> what people mean, I am wrong about half of the time!) doesn't know the
> account settings, either, more often than not. But the details required by
> Windows Live Mail are the same as those required by any other client. So
> all you need to do is ask your provider what those details are.
>
I notice the Hotmail message display area has now been reduced to
accommodate commercial advertising. I think I'll revert to Windows Mail.
> --
> Norman
> ~Oh Lord, why have you come
> ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
>
>
I thank you all for your forebearence and suggestions.

Brian

What is Hotmail > Add an email account > brick wall for newsgroups. supposed
to mean?
Tools, Accounts, Add, Newsgroup
--
Ron Sommer
MS MVP-Mail

"beginner" <> wrote in message
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>
> "N. Miller" <> wrote in message
> news:634CF0C7-0B67-4AAC-9063-...
>> "beginner" <0m> wrote in message
>> news:#...
>>
>>> I recently reinstalled Vista Home Premium 32 bit. Before this I
>>> subscribed to newsgroups using Live Mail with no problem. Now it seems
>>> that I cannot subscribe to newsgroups unless I use Windows Mail - can
>>> someone please advise me differently?
>>
>> Yes, I can advise you differently. I am posting this using "Live Mail"
>> (which I know as, "Windows Live Mail"). It is just a matter of setting up
>> the accounts.
>>
> This time last week (before a "system recovery" to factory default
> settings) I had long been using Windows Live Mail to access newsgroup
> messages. Windows Live Mail allowed me to (re)setup my email accounts BUT
> presents me with a brick wall when I try to add an msnewsgroup account.
> Hotmail > Add an email account > brick wall for newsgroups.
> Whereas:- Windows Mail > Tools > accounts > Add an email or newsgroup
> account > fill your boots.
>
>>> The alternative is to set up my email accounts on Windows Mail also, but
>>> I don't know the incoming and outgoing message server details of Live
>>> Mail that are required by Windows Mail. Please help.
>>
>> Windows Live Mail (presumably your "Live Mail"; but whenever I guess at
>> what people mean, I am wrong about half of the time!) doesn't know the
>> account settings, either, more often than not. But the details required
>> by Windows Live Mail are the same as those required by any other client.
>> So all you need to do is ask your provider what those details are.
>>
> I notice the Hotmail message display area has now been reduced to
> accommodate commercial advertising. I think I'll revert to Windows Mail.
>> --
>> Norman
>> ~Oh Lord, why have you come
>> ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
>>
>>
> I thank you all for your forebearence and suggestions.
>
> Brian

Hi, Brian.

You are going about this the hard way!

Just click here and let Windows do all the work:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...e.mail.desktop

That one click will:
1. Start WLM (if it is your default newsreader);
2. Create the News Account for you on the Microsoft public news server,
which is free and does not require you to log in;
3. Connect you to THIS newsgroup,
microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop (Please ignore the word
"desktop"; it was deleted from the name of the program while still in beta,
but lives on in the name of the newsgroup.);
4. Download the 300 latest messages here - probably including THIS one;
and
5. Show you the newest post in the Reading pane.

Note that the URL above starts with "news://", not with "http://". In other
words, you will be using NNTP (Network News Transfer Protocol) rather than
HTTP (Hypertext Transfer Protocol). These are Usenet newsgroups, even
though Microsoft has cloaked them in a pretty GUI and calls them Microsoft
Communities or Discussion Groups or Forums - and made them accessible from
the WWW in a browser such as Internet Explorer. But they are still, under
that pretty skin, Usenet newsgroups.

After a day or so with the newsreader interface, you can toggle the Menu Bar
on with <Alt>M,M. Then you can see buttons for File, View, Tools, etc., and
can use the many options hidden there to customize WLM to suit the way YOU
like to read messages here. Just like on Windows Mail - and Outlook Express
before it.

Try it. I think you'll like it! ;<)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"beginner" <0m> wrote in message
news:#...
> I recently reinstalled Vista Home Premium 32 bit. Before this I
> subscribed to newsgroups using Live Mail with no problem. Now it seems
> that I cannot subscribe to newsgroups unless I use Windows Mail - can
> someone please advise me differently?
>
> The alternative is to set up my email accounts on Windows Mail also, but
> I don't know the incoming and outgoing message server details of Live Mail
> that are required by Windows Mail. Please help.

"Ron Sommer" <> wrote in message
news:...
> What is Hotmail > Add an email account > brick wall for newsgroups.
> supposed to mean?
> Tools, Accounts, Add, Newsgroup
> --
> Ron Sommer
> MS MVP-Mail
>
I meant it as a comparison between Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail.

To gain access to newsgroups using WM :-
I clicked "Tools" in the menu bar, then from the drop down list I selected
"accounts" where I was invited to "add an email OR newsgroup account".
Plain sailing from then on. I did this quite specifically because I had
spent hours reading help pages which gave no guidance.

In Hotmail(WLM) I scrolled down the left pane and selected "add an email
account" ( no mention anywhere of a newsgroup account).
Progress was abruptively halted when asked for the email address and
password.
> "beginner" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> "N. Miller" <> wrote in message
>> news:634CF0C7-0B67-4AAC-9063-...
>>> "beginner" <0m> wrote in message
>>> news:#...
>>>
>>>> I recently reinstalled Vista Home Premium 32 bit. Before this I
>>>> subscribed to newsgroups using Live Mail with no problem. Now it seems
>>>> that I cannot subscribe to newsgroups unless I use Windows Mail - can
>>>> someone please advise me differently?
>>>
>>> Yes, I can advise you differently. I am posting this using "Live Mail"
>>> (which I know as, "Windows Live Mail"). It is just a matter of setting
>>> up the accounts.
>>>
>> This time last week (before a "system recovery" to factory default
>> settings) I had long been using Windows Live Mail to access newsgroup
>> messages. Windows Live Mail allowed me to (re)setup my email accounts BUT
>> presents me with a brick wall when I try to add an msnewsgroup account.
>> Hotmail > Add an email account > brick wall for newsgroups.
>> Whereas:- Windows Mail > Tools > accounts > Add an email or newsgroup
>> account > fill your boots.
>>
>>>> The alternative is to set up my email accounts on Windows Mail also,
>>>> but I don't know the incoming and outgoing message server details of
>>>> Live Mail that are required by Windows Mail. Please help.
>>>
>>> Windows Live Mail (presumably your "Live Mail"; but whenever I guess at
>>> what people mean, I am wrong about half of the time!) doesn't know the
>>> account settings, either, more often than not. But the details required
>>> by Windows Live Mail are the same as those required by any other client.
>>> So all you need to do is ask your provider what those details are.
>>>
>> I notice the Hotmail message display area has now been reduced to
>> accommodate commercial advertising. I think I'll revert to Windows Mail.
>>> --
>>> Norman
>>> ~Oh Lord, why have you come
>>> ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
>>>
>>>
>> I thank you all for your forebearence and suggestions.
>>
>> Brian
>