Newsgroups on Live Mail?

Sounds like you are running Windows Live Hotmail rather than
Windows Live Mail. Go to its Help, About...
What does that say? If Windows Live Mail is no longer on your computer
you may have to re-download it.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/def...le/vandermolen


"beginner" <> wrote in message news:OB2hfh$...
> What you have described to me, Gary, is WLM as I have known it for months
> until last week. After a system recovery to factory default settings, WLM
> now appears as "Hotmail"; clicking Tools on the menu bar does not inlude
> Accounts on the options list; a Windows 7 advertisement occupies the lower
> left corner; and the right side of the email area displays commercial
> advertising. I there a way to get back to the way things were?
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
> news:uBKZYp%...
> To add a newsgroup account in Windows Live Mail you can use the same
> procedure you used in Windows Mail: Tools, Accounts, Add...
>
> Windows Live Mail is more modal than Windows Mail.
> In Windows Live Mail you can select the Newsgroups mode, and then
> you will see the "Add newsgroup account" button in the lower left corner.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/def...le/vandermolen
>
>
> "beginner" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>>
>> "Ron Sommer" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> What is Hotmail > Add an email account > brick wall for newsgroups.
>>> supposed to mean?
>>> Tools, Accounts, Add, Newsgroup
>>> --
>>> Ron Sommer
>>> MS MVP-Mail
>>>
>> I meant it as a comparison between Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail.
>>
>> To gain access to newsgroups using WM :-
>> I clicked "Tools" in the menu bar, then from the drop down list I selected
>> "accounts" where I was invited to "add an email OR newsgroup account".
>> Plain sailing from then on. I did this quite specifically because I had
>> spent hours reading help pages which gave no guidance.
>>
>> In Hotmail(WLM) I scrolled down the left pane and selected "add an email
>> account" ( no mention anywhere of a newsgroup account).
>> Progress was abruptively halted when asked for the email address and
>> password.
>>> "beginner" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>>
>>>> "N. Miller" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:634CF0C7-0B67-4AAC-9063-...
>>>>> "beginner" <0m> wrote in message
>>>>> news:#...
>>>>>
>>>>>> I recently reinstalled Vista Home Premium 32 bit. Before this I
>>>>>> subscribed to newsgroups using Live Mail with no problem. Now it
>>>>>> seems
>>>>>> that I cannot subscribe to newsgroups unless I use Windows Mail - can
>>>>>> someone please advise me differently?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I can advise you differently. I am posting this using "Live Mail"
>>>>> (which I know as, "Windows Live Mail"). It is just a matter of setting
>>>>> up the accounts.
>>>>>
>>>> This time last week (before a "system recovery" to factory default
>>>> settings) I had long been using Windows Live Mail to access newsgroup
>>>> messages. Windows Live Mail allowed me to (re)setup my email accounts
>>>> BUT
>>>> presents me with a brick wall when I try to add an msnewsgroup account.
>>>> Hotmail > Add an email account > brick wall for newsgroups.
>>>> Whereas:- Windows Mail > Tools > accounts > Add an email or newsgroup
>>>> account > fill your boots.
>>>>
>>>>>> The alternative is to set up my email accounts on Windows Mail also,
>>>>>> but I don't know the incoming and outgoing message server details of
>>>>>> Live Mail that are required by Windows Mail. Please help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows Live Mail (presumably your "Live Mail"; but whenever I guess at
>>>>> what people mean, I am wrong about half of the time!) doesn't know the
>>>>> account settings, either, more often than not. But the details required
>>>>> by Windows Live Mail are the same as those required by any other
>>>>> client.
>>>>> So all you need to do is ask your provider what those details are.
>>>>>
>>>> I notice the Hotmail message display area has now been reduced to
>>>> accommodate commercial advertising. I think I'll revert to Windows Mail.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Norman
>>>>> ~Oh Lord, why have you come
>>>>> ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I thank you all for your forebearence and suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>
>>
>

As I said, if Windows Live Mail is no longer on your computer then
download it: http://download.live.com/wlmail

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/def...le/vandermolen


"beginner" <> wrote in message news:...
> Can't access WLM. This is how my picture of WLM has panned out in view of
> the threads in this post. It looks as though I've been fobbed off with
> Hotmail instead of WLM. I asked for a WLM account via the "Windows Live"
> homepage.
>
> I'm ready to quit.
>
> Brian
>
> "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
> news:erG2ez%...
>> Hi, Brian.
>>
>>> Clicking the URL had no effect.
>>
>> Then most likely you were already running WM - and have it set as your
>> Default newsreader. So the news:// part of the URL simply tried to
>> re-connect you to what you were already running.
>>
>> I see that in another post you said:
>> "To gain access to newsgroups using WM :-
>> I clicked "Tools" in the menu bar, then from the drop down list I selected
>> "accounts" where I was invited to "add an email OR newsgroup account".
>> Plain sailing from then on. I did this quite specifically because I had
>> spent hours reading help pages which gave no guidance."
>>
>> You do EXACTLY the same thing in WLM! ;<)
>>
>> RC
>> --
>> R. C. White, CPA
>> San Marcos, TX
>>
>> Microsoft Windows MVP
>> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64
>>
>> "beginner" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>>
>>> "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> Hi, Brian.
>>>>
>>>> You are going about this the hard way!
>>>>
>>>> Just click here and let Windows do all the work:
>>>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...e.mail.desktop
>>>>
>>>> That one click will:
>>>> 1. Start WLM (if it is your default newsreader);
>>>> 2. Create the News Account for you on the Microsoft public news
>>>> server, which is free and does not require you to log in;
>>>> 3. Connect you to THIS newsgroup,
>>>> microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop (Please ignore the word
>>>> "desktop"; it was deleted from the name of the program while still in
>>>> beta, but lives on in the name of the newsgroup.);
>>>> 4. Download the 300 latest messages here - probably including THIS
>>>> one; and
>>>> 5. Show you the newest post in the Reading pane.
>>>>
>>>> Note that the URL above starts with "news://", not with "http://". In
>>>> other words, you will be using NNTP (Network News Transfer Protocol)
>>>> rather than HTTP (Hypertext Transfer Protocol). These are Usenet
>>>> newsgroups, even though Microsoft has cloaked them in a pretty GUI and
>>>> calls them Microsoft Communities or Discussion Groups or Forums - and
>>>> made them accessible from the WWW in a browser such as Internet
>>>> Explorer. But they are still, under that pretty skin, Usenet newsgroups.
>>>>
>>>> After a day or so with the newsreader interface, you can toggle the Menu
>>>> Bar on with <Alt>M,M. Then you can see buttons for File, View, Tools,
>>>> etc., and can use the many options hidden there to customize WLM to suit
>>>> the way YOU like to read messages here. Just like on Windows Mail - and
>>>> Outlook Express before it.
>>>>
>>>> Try it. I think you'll like it! ;<)
>>>>
>>>> RC
>>>>
>>>
>>> Clicking the URL had no effect.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>> "beginner" <0m> wrote in message
>>>> news:#...
>>>>> I recently reinstalled Vista Home Premium 32 bit. Before this I
>>>>> subscribed to newsgroups using Live Mail with no problem. Now it seems
>>>>> that I cannot subscribe to newsgroups unless I use Windows Mail - can
>>>>> someone please advise me differently?
>>>>>
>>>>> The alternative is to set up my email accounts on Windows Mail also,
>>>>> but I don't know the incoming and outgoing message server details of
>>>>> Live Mail that are required by Windows Mail. Please help.
>>
>

"beginner" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Can't access WLM. This is how my picture of WLM has panned out in view of
> the threads in this post. It looks as though I've been fobbed off with
> Hotmail instead of WLM. I asked for a WLM account via the "Windows Live"
> homepage.
>
> I'm ready to quit.
>
> Brian

Got there after all - just when I was ready to quit! Any confusion has
been entirely MEA CULPA.

Brian

>
> "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
> news:erG2ez%...
>> Hi, Brian.
>>
>>> Clicking the URL had no effect.
>>
>> Then most likely you were already running WM - and have it set as your
>> Default newsreader. So the news:// part of the URL simply tried to
>> re-connect you to what you were already running.
>>
>> I see that in another post you said:
>> "To gain access to newsgroups using WM :-
>> I clicked "Tools" in the menu bar, then from the drop down list I
>> selected
>> "accounts" where I was invited to "add an email OR newsgroup account".
>> Plain sailing from then on. I did this quite specifically because I had
>> spent hours reading help pages which gave no guidance."
>>
>> You do EXACTLY the same thing in WLM! ;<)
>>
>> RC
>> --
>> R. C. White, CPA
>> San Marcos, TX
>>
>> Microsoft Windows MVP
>> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64
>>
>> "beginner" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>>
>>> "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> Hi, Brian.
>>>>
>>>> You are going about this the hard way!
>>>>
>>>> Just click here and let Windows do all the work:
>>>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...e.mail.desktop
>>>>
>>>> That one click will:
>>>> 1. Start WLM (if it is your default newsreader);
>>>> 2. Create the News Account for you on the Microsoft public news
>>>> server, which is free and does not require you to log in;
>>>> 3. Connect you to THIS newsgroup,
>>>> microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop (Please ignore the word
>>>> "desktop"; it was deleted from the name of the program while still in
>>>> beta, but lives on in the name of the newsgroup.);
>>>> 4. Download the 300 latest messages here - probably including THIS
>>>> one; and
>>>> 5. Show you the newest post in the Reading pane.
>>>>
>>>> Note that the URL above starts with "news://", not with "http://". In
>>>> other words, you will be using NNTP (Network News Transfer Protocol)
>>>> rather than HTTP (Hypertext Transfer Protocol). These are Usenet
>>>> newsgroups, even though Microsoft has cloaked them in a pretty GUI and
>>>> calls them Microsoft Communities or Discussion Groups or Forums - and
>>>> made them accessible from the WWW in a browser such as Internet
>>>> Explorer. But they are still, under that pretty skin, Usenet
>>>> newsgroups.
>>>>
>>>> After a day or so with the newsreader interface, you can toggle the
>>>> Menu Bar on with <Alt>M,M. Then you can see buttons for File, View,
>>>> Tools, etc., and can use the many options hidden there to customize WLM
>>>> to suit the way YOU like to read messages here. Just like on Windows
>>>> Mail - and Outlook Express before it.
>>>>
>>>> Try it. I think you'll like it! ;<)
>>>>
>>>> RC
>>>>
>>>
>>> Clicking the URL had no effect.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>> "beginner" <0m> wrote in message
>>>> news:#...
>>>>> I recently reinstalled Vista Home Premium 32 bit. Before this I
>>>>> subscribed to newsgroups using Live Mail with no problem. Now it
>>>>> seems that I cannot subscribe to newsgroups unless I use Windows
>>>>> Mail - can someone please advise me differently?
>>>>>
>>>>> The alternative is to set up my email accounts on Windows Mail also,
>>>>> but I don't know the incoming and outgoing message server details of
>>>>> Live Mail that are required by Windows Mail. Please help.
>>
>

I started my quest by fruitlessly searching the "help and how to" pages.
I successfully re-downloaded Windows Live Mail. Everything is now as it
should be.

Thank you one and all.

"Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Sounds like you are running Windows Live Hotmail rather than
> Windows Live Mail. Go to its Help, About...
> What does that say? If Windows Live Mail is no longer on your computer
> you may have to re-download it.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/def...le/vandermolen
>
>
> "beginner" <> wrote in message
> news:OB2hfh$...
>> What you have described to me, Gary, is WLM as I have known it for months
>> until last week. After a system recovery to factory default settings,
>> WLM
>> now appears as "Hotmail"; clicking Tools on the menu bar does not inlude
>> Accounts on the options list; a Windows 7 advertisement occupies the
>> lower
>> left corner; and the right side of the email area displays commercial
>> advertising. I there a way to get back to the way things were?
>>
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
>> news:uBKZYp%...
>> To add a newsgroup account in Windows Live Mail you can use the same
>> procedure you used in Windows Mail: Tools, Accounts, Add...
>>
>> Windows Live Mail is more modal than Windows Mail.
>> In Windows Live Mail you can select the Newsgroups mode, and then
>> you will see the "Add newsgroup account" button in the lower left corner.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/def...le/vandermolen
>>
>>
>> "beginner" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>>
>>> "Ron Sommer" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> What is Hotmail > Add an email account > brick wall for newsgroups.
>>>> supposed to mean?
>>>> Tools, Accounts, Add, Newsgroup
>>>> --
>>>> Ron Sommer
>>>> MS MVP-Mail
>>>>
>>> I meant it as a comparison between Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail.
>>>
>>> To gain access to newsgroups using WM :-
>>> I clicked "Tools" in the menu bar, then from the drop down list I
>>> selected
>>> "accounts" where I was invited to "add an email OR newsgroup account".
>>> Plain sailing from then on. I did this quite specifically because I had
>>> spent hours reading help pages which gave no guidance.
>>>
>>> In Hotmail(WLM) I scrolled down the left pane and selected "add an email
>>> account" ( no mention anywhere of a newsgroup account).
>>> Progress was abruptively halted when asked for the email address and
>>> password.
>>>> "beginner" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>>
>>>>> "N. Miller" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:634CF0C7-0B67-4AAC-9063-...
>>>>>> "beginner" <0m> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:#...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I recently reinstalled Vista Home Premium 32 bit. Before this I
>>>>>>> subscribed to newsgroups using Live Mail with no problem. Now it
>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>> that I cannot subscribe to newsgroups unless I use Windows Mail -
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> someone please advise me differently?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I can advise you differently. I am posting this using "Live
>>>>>> Mail"
>>>>>> (which I know as, "Windows Live Mail"). It is just a matter of
>>>>>> setting
>>>>>> up the accounts.
>>>>>>
>>>>> This time last week (before a "system recovery" to factory default
>>>>> settings) I had long been using Windows Live Mail to access newsgroup
>>>>> messages. Windows Live Mail allowed me to (re)setup my email accounts
>>>>> BUT
>>>>> presents me with a brick wall when I try to add an msnewsgroup
>>>>> account.
>>>>> Hotmail > Add an email account > brick wall for newsgroups.
>>>>> Whereas:- Windows Mail > Tools > accounts > Add an email or
>>>>> newsgroup
>>>>> account > fill your boots.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The alternative is to set up my email accounts on Windows Mail also,
>>>>>>> but I don't know the incoming and outgoing message server details of
>>>>>>> Live Mail that are required by Windows Mail. Please help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows Live Mail (presumably your "Live Mail"; but whenever I guess
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> what people mean, I am wrong about half of the time!) doesn't know
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> account settings, either, more often than not. But the details
>>>>>> required
>>>>>> by Windows Live Mail are the same as those required by any other
>>>>>> client.
>>>>>> So all you need to do is ask your provider what those details are.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I notice the Hotmail message display area has now been reduced to
>>>>> accommodate commercial advertising. I think I'll revert to Windows
>>>>> Mail.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Norman
>>>>>> ~Oh Lord, why have you come
>>>>>> ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I thank you all for your forebearence and suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>
>>

You're very welcome. Thanks for reporting back.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/def...le/vandermolen


"beginner" <> wrote in message news:%...
>I started my quest by fruitlessly searching the "help and how to" pages.
> I successfully re-downloaded Windows Live Mail. Everything is now as it
> should be.
>
> Thank you one and all.
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Sounds like you are running Windows Live Hotmail rather than
>> Windows Live Mail. Go to its Help, About...
>> What does that say? If Windows Live Mail is no longer on your computer
>> you may have to re-download it.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/def...le/vandermolen
>>
>>
>> "beginner" <> wrote in message
>> news:OB2hfh$...
>>> What you have described to me, Gary, is WLM as I have known it for months
>>> until last week. After a system recovery to factory default settings,
>>> WLM
>>> now appears as "Hotmail"; clicking Tools on the menu bar does not inlude
>>> Accounts on the options list; a Windows 7 advertisement occupies the
>>> lower
>>> left corner; and the right side of the email area displays commercial
>>> advertising. I there a way to get back to the way things were?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
>>> news:uBKZYp%...
>>> To add a newsgroup account in Windows Live Mail you can use the same
>>> procedure you used in Windows Mail: Tools, Accounts, Add...
>>>
>>> Windows Live Mail is more modal than Windows Mail.
>>> In Windows Live Mail you can select the Newsgroups mode, and then
>>> you will see the "Add newsgroup account" button in the lower left corner.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/def...le/vandermolen
>>>
>>>
>>> "beginner" <> wrote in message
>>> news:%...
>>>>
>>>> "Ron Sommer" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> What is Hotmail > Add an email account > brick wall for newsgroups.
>>>>> supposed to mean?
>>>>> Tools, Accounts, Add, Newsgroup
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ron Sommer
>>>>> MS MVP-Mail
>>>>>
>>>> I meant it as a comparison between Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail.
>>>>
>>>> To gain access to newsgroups using WM :-
>>>> I clicked "Tools" in the menu bar, then from the drop down list I
>>>> selected
>>>> "accounts" where I was invited to "add an email OR newsgroup account".
>>>> Plain sailing from then on. I did this quite specifically because I had
>>>> spent hours reading help pages which gave no guidance.
>>>>
>>>> In Hotmail(WLM) I scrolled down the left pane and selected "add an email
>>>> account" ( no mention anywhere of a newsgroup account).
>>>> Progress was abruptively halted when asked for the email address and
>>>> password.
>>>>> "beginner" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "N. Miller" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:634CF0C7-0B67-4AAC-9063-...
>>>>>>> "beginner" <0m> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:#...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I recently reinstalled Vista Home Premium 32 bit. Before this I
>>>>>>>> subscribed to newsgroups using Live Mail with no problem. Now it
>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>> that I cannot subscribe to newsgroups unless I use Windows Mail -
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> someone please advise me differently?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I can advise you differently. I am posting this using "Live
>>>>>>> Mail"
>>>>>>> (which I know as, "Windows Live Mail"). It is just a matter of
>>>>>>> setting
>>>>>>> up the accounts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> This time last week (before a "system recovery" to factory default
>>>>>> settings) I had long been using Windows Live Mail to access newsgroup
>>>>>> messages. Windows Live Mail allowed me to (re)setup my email accounts
>>>>>> BUT
>>>>>> presents me with a brick wall when I try to add an msnewsgroup
>>>>>> account.
>>>>>> Hotmail > Add an email account > brick wall for newsgroups.
>>>>>> Whereas:- Windows Mail > Tools > accounts > Add an email or
>>>>>> newsgroup
>>>>>> account > fill your boots.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The alternative is to set up my email accounts on Windows Mail also,
>>>>>>>> but I don't know the incoming and outgoing message server details of
>>>>>>>> Live Mail that are required by Windows Mail. Please help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Windows Live Mail (presumably your "Live Mail"; but whenever I guess
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> what people mean, I am wrong about half of the time!) doesn't know
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> account settings, either, more often than not. But the details
>>>>>>> required
>>>>>>> by Windows Live Mail are the same as those required by any other
>>>>>>> client.
>>>>>>> So all you need to do is ask your provider what those details are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I notice the Hotmail message display area has now been reduced to
>>>>>> accommodate commercial advertising. I think I'll revert to Windows
>>>>>> Mail.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Norman
>>>>>>> ~Oh Lord, why have you come
>>>>>>> ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thank you all for your forebearence and suggestions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

The desktop icons for WLM and Hotmail are both labelled "Windows Live Mail".
I found this confusing.

"beginner" <> wrote in message
news:#...
>
>
> "beginner" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Can't access WLM. This is how my picture of WLM has panned out in view
>> of the threads in this post. It looks as though I've been fobbed off
>> with Hotmail instead of WLM. I asked for a WLM account via the "Windows
>> Live" homepage.
>>
>> I'm ready to quit.
>>
>> Brian
>
> Got there after all - just when I was ready to quit! Any confusion has
> been entirely MEA CULPA.
>
> Brian
>
>>
>> "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
>> news:erG2ez%...
>>> Hi, Brian.
>>>
>>>> Clicking the URL had no effect.
>>>
>>> Then most likely you were already running WM - and have it set as your
>>> Default newsreader. So the news:// part of the URL simply tried to
>>> re-connect you to what you were already running.
>>>
>>> I see that in another post you said:
>>> "To gain access to newsgroups using WM :-
>>> I clicked "Tools" in the menu bar, then from the drop down list I
>>> selected
>>> "accounts" where I was invited to "add an email OR newsgroup account".
>>> Plain sailing from then on. I did this quite specifically because I had
>>> spent hours reading help pages which gave no guidance."
>>>
>>> You do EXACTLY the same thing in WLM! ;<)
>>>
>>> RC
>>> --
>>> R. C. White, CPA
>>> San Marcos, TX
>>>
>>> Microsoft Windows MVP
>>> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64
>>>
>>> "beginner" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>>
>>>> "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> Hi, Brian.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are going about this the hard way!
>>>>>
>>>>> Just click here and let Windows do all the work:
>>>>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...e.mail.desktop
>>>>>
>>>>> That one click will:
>>>>> 1. Start WLM (if it is your default newsreader);
>>>>> 2. Create the News Account for you on the Microsoft public news
>>>>> server, which is free and does not require you to log in;
>>>>> 3. Connect you to THIS newsgroup,
>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop (Please ignore the word
>>>>> "desktop"; it was deleted from the name of the program while still in
>>>>> beta, but lives on in the name of the newsgroup.);
>>>>> 4. Download the 300 latest messages here - probably including THIS
>>>>> one; and
>>>>> 5. Show you the newest post in the Reading pane.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that the URL above starts with "news://", not with "http://". In
>>>>> other words, you will be using NNTP (Network News Transfer Protocol)
>>>>> rather than HTTP (Hypertext Transfer Protocol). These are Usenet
>>>>> newsgroups, even though Microsoft has cloaked them in a pretty GUI and
>>>>> calls them Microsoft Communities or Discussion Groups or Forums - and
>>>>> made them accessible from the WWW in a browser such as Internet
>>>>> Explorer. But they are still, under that pretty skin, Usenet
>>>>> newsgroups.
>>>>>
>>>>> After a day or so with the newsreader interface, you can toggle the
>>>>> Menu Bar on with <Alt>M,M. Then you can see buttons for File, View,
>>>>> Tools, etc., and can use the many options hidden there to customize
>>>>> WLM to suit the way YOU like to read messages here. Just like on
>>>>> Windows Mail - and Outlook Express before it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try it. I think you'll like it! ;<)
>>>>>
>>>>> RC
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Clicking the URL had no effect.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>>> "beginner" <0m> wrote in message
>>>>> news:#...
>>>>>> I recently reinstalled Vista Home Premium 32 bit. Before this I
>>>>>> subscribed to newsgroups using Live Mail with no problem. Now it
>>>>>> seems that I cannot subscribe to newsgroups unless I use Windows
>>>>>> Mail - can someone please advise me differently?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The alternative is to set up my email accounts on Windows Mail also,
>>>>>> but I don't know the incoming and outgoing message server details of
>>>>>> Live Mail that are required by Windows Mail. Please help.
>>>
>>