No defragmentation graphic or progress report in Vista

All users urgently need a solution from Microsoft on this.
It's impossible to use Defragmentation in Vista because there is no progress
report.
We are maybe about to turn off the computer and the defragmentation screen
is dead, standing there with no results whatsoever.
How do we know how much is left for it to finish?
How do we know how defragmented the hard drive was or is?
How do we know is working?
Please we all need you to do us a favor.
Find that person that decided not to include a graphic or progress report on
the Vista defragmentatioin utility. Find him or her and fire them. Now.
And then go ahead and immediately correct this problem with a patch.


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"PepeGuitar" <> wrote in message news:AEC1F84D-4BF3-4EFA-9536-...
All users urgently need a solution from Microsoft on this.
It's impossible to use Defragmentation in Vista because there is no progress
report.
We are maybe about to turn off the computer and the defragmentation screen
is dead, standing there with no results whatsoever.
How do we know how much is left for it to finish?
How do we know how defragmented the hard drive was or is?
How do we know is working?
Please we all need you to do us a favor.
Find that person that decided not to include a graphic or progress report on
the Vista defragmentatioin utility. Find him or her and fire them. Now.
And then go ahead and immediately correct this problem with a patch.


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http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

Try these two:
Diskeeper, Auslogics
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"PepeGuitar" <> wrote in message
news:AEC1F84D-4BF3-4EFA-9536-...
> All users urgently need a solution from Microsoft on this.
> It's impossible to use Defragmentation in Vista because there is no
> progress
> report.
> We are maybe about to turn off the computer and the defragmentation screen
> is dead, standing there with no results whatsoever.
> How do we know how much is left for it to finish?
> How do we know how defragmented the hard drive was or is?
> How do we know is working?
> Please we all need you to do us a favor.
> Find that person that decided not to include a graphic or progress report
> on
> the Vista defragmentatioin utility. Find him or her and fire them. Now.
> And then go ahead and immediately correct this problem with a patch.
>
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

"PepeGuitar" <> wrote in message
news:AEC1F84D-4BF3-4EFA-9536-...
> All users urgently need a solution from Microsoft on this.
> It's impossible to use Defragmentation in Vista because there is no
> progress
> report.
> We are maybe about to turn off the computer and the defragmentation
> screen
> is dead, standing there with no results whatsoever.
> How do we know how much is left for it to finish?
> How do we know how defragmented the hard drive was or is?
> How do we know is working?
> Please we all need you to do us a favor.
> Find that person that decided not to include a graphic or progress
> report on
> the Vista defragmentatioin utility. Find him or her and fire them.
> Now.
> And then go ahead and immediately correct this problem with a patch.
>
>

Not quite all users.

I have in the distant past used 'fire and forget' defrags, Rabbit under
Vax/VMS comes to mind. Nevertheless when I first ran Windows 3 defrag I
too watched the blinking squares and sectors moving about but when I had
seen how it behaved I stopped watching - it just wasn't that exciting,
to use a tired old analogy it was like watching paint dry.

I now use the One Care defrag on XP and Vista, sometimes this doesn't
complete in one session but that doesn't matter to me. My disk occupancy
on the PCs is kept so low that it's probably overkill anyway. The
defrags
are scheduled to run when none of my PCs will be in use, I am probably
not in the room and possibly not in the house.

The only point I am making is that other people have other requirements
and other working methods and thus come to different conclusions.

Tom

"PepeGuitar" <> wrote in message
news:AEC1F84D-4BF3-4EFA-9536-...
> All users urgently need a solution from Microsoft on this.
> It's impossible to use Defragmentation in Vista because there is no
> progress
> report.
> We are maybe about to turn off the computer and the defragmentation screen
> is dead, standing there with no results whatsoever.
> How do we know how much is left for it to finish?

It doesn't finish, it keeps defragging as needed.

> How do we know how defragmented the hard drive was or is?

Do you need to know?
It isn't going to break just because it has some fragmentation.

> How do we know is working?

That is a good question.
You could run the command line defrag and get a report on how fragmented it
is.

> Please we all need you to do us a favor.
> Find that person that decided not to include a graphic or progress report
> on
> the Vista defragmentatioin utility. Find him or her and fire them. Now.
> And then go ahead and immediately correct this problem with a patch.

Macs defrag and don't have a progress indicator, I haven't noticed a huge
outcry for some useless graphics.

Maybe the best thing M$ could do is a defrag screen saver.
That way it keeps the people that want pretty moving blocks happy and
doesn't interfere with the real work.

I am one of the users who falls in the 'enable it and forget it'
category. I dont want to waste my time defragmenting my 3 or 4 drives
that see heavy usage, manually, or setting schedules for each one at
different times. I prefer the efficiency and ease of automatic
defragmention -set it once and let it do it's job in the background as
required. I am beyond the point where I want to watch colored bars
rearrange themselves on screen, but I do like to check on the progress
once in a while, and I do insist on controlling what volumes need to
have automatic defrag enabled. Vista's defrag falls a bit short on the
last two points, but there are paid solutions for those who are willing
to pay for additional benefits.

Tom Allen;790548 Wrote:
>
> Not quite all users.
>
> I have in the distant past used 'fire and forget' defrags, Rabbit
> under
> Vax/VMS comes to mind. Nevertheless when I first ran Windows 3 defrag
> I
> too watched the blinking squares and sectors moving about but when I
> had
> seen how it behaved I stopped watching - it just wasn't that exciting,
> to use a tired old analogy it was like watching paint dry.
>
> I now use the One Care defrag on XP and Vista, sometimes this doesn't
> complete in one session but that doesn't matter to me. My disk
> occupancy
> on the PCs is kept so low that it's probably overkill anyway. The
> defrags
> are scheduled to run when none of my PCs will be in use, I am probably
> not in the room and possibly not in the house.
>
> The only point I am making is that other people have other
> requirements
> and other working methods and thus come to different conclusions.
>
> Tom


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Achilles

PepeGuitar wrote:
> All users urgently need a solution from Microsoft on this.


Not me. Seems like a silly idea, in fact. I've better things to do
than watch such a display.


> It's impossible to use Defragmentation in Vista because there is no progress
> report.


That's not at all true. Not having a silly graphics display in no way
hinders ability to defrag a partition.


> We are maybe about to turn off the computer and the defragmentation screen
> is dead, standing there with no results whatsoever.
> How do we know how much is left for it to finish?


Task Manager? Or, better yet, simply let Vista do scheduled defrag's
at night when no one's using the computer?


> How do we know how defragmented the hard drive was or is?


What does it matter?


> How do we know is working?


Is your performance steadily decreasing? If not, it's either not
necessary, or it's working.



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