No Fax/Scan in Vista Premium -- are you kidding me? It's basic!!

I was considering buying a bundled laptop package and just about every combo
has the Home Premium version of Vista loaded. Fax/Scan is so basic it should
be in
the Basic version. To not include it in the Premium version is hard to
believe. To add insult to injury, it appears there is no way to even pay for
it to later include it. The product manager who came up with this concept
better go back to class. You are infuriating people! If you don't think so,
search on what people are doing (wasting time and effort) trying to work
around this nightmare. It's not that they would not have paid for Ultimate
if they knew ahead of time. The problem is it is NOT AVAILABLE in any of the
bundled solutions!!!!!!!! Premium is what you get and what you don't get is
basic fax functionality. Lame!!

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/Designer/ said:
> I was considering buying a bundled laptop package and just about every combo
> has the Home Premium version of Vista loaded. Fax/Scan is so basic it should
> be in
> the Basic version. To not include it in the Premium version is hard to
> believe. To add insult to injury, it appears there is no way to even pay for
> it to later include it. The product manager who came up with this concept
> better go back to class. You are infuriating people! If you don't think so,
> search on what people are doing (wasting time and effort) trying to work
> around this nightmare. It's not that they would not have paid for Ultimate
> if they knew ahead of time. The problem is it is NOT AVAILABLE in any of the
> bundled solutions!!!!!!!! Premium is what you get and what you don't get is
> basic fax functionality. Lame!!

Install one of these. Free.
http://WWW.USR.COM/bvrp/bvrp.asp
http://WWW.BLACKICE.COM/impColorFaxLite.htm

Designer wrote:
> I was considering buying a bundled laptop package and just about every combo
> has the Home Premium version of Vista loaded. Fax/Scan is so basic it should
> be in
> the Basic version. To not include it in the Premium version is hard to
> believe. To add insult to injury, it appears there is no way to even pay for
> it to later include it. The product manager who came up with this concept
> better go back to class. You are infuriating people! If you don't think so,
> search on what people are doing (wasting time and effort) trying to work
> around this nightmare. It's not that they would not have paid for Ultimate
> if they knew ahead of time. The problem is it is NOT AVAILABLE in any of the
> bundled solutions!!!!!!!! Premium is what you get and what you don't get is
> basic fax functionality. Lame!!
>
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> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
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You are assuming, incorrectly, that Microsoft cares about its paying
customers. WPA, WGA, DRM and this crap proves they don't.

Alias

<> wrote in message
news:%...
> /Designer/ said:
>> I was considering buying a bundled laptop package and just about every
>> combo
>> has the Home Premium version of Vista loaded. Fax/Scan is so basic it
>> should
>> be in
>> the Basic version. To not include it in the Premium version is hard to
>> believe. To add insult to injury, it appears there is no way to even pay
>> for
>> it to later include it. The product manager who came up with this concept
>> better go back to class. You are infuriating people! If you don't think
>> so,
>> search on what people are doing (wasting time and effort) trying to work
>> around this nightmare. It's not that they would not have paid for
>> Ultimate
>> if they knew ahead of time. The problem is it is NOT AVAILABLE in any of
>> the
>> bundled solutions!!!!!!!! Premium is what you get and what you don't get
>> is
>> basic fax functionality. Lame!!
>
> Install one of these. Free.
> http://WWW.USR.COM/bvrp/bvrp.asp
> http://WWW.BLACKICE.COM/impColorFaxLite.htm

Thanks for these links - I have not tried them but will do so.
Currently I have installed:
http://www.rkssoftware.com/rksfax/overview.html $19.95
http://www.snappysoftware.com/index.html $29.99
and now use RKS which is user friendly and suits my occasional use a little
better than SnappyFAX, though I like them both.
The removal of FAX for all but the Business and Ultimate versions raised a
howl of fury on this NG about fifteen months ago, and at first SnappyFAX was
the only Vista one I remember being recommended here and then after a few
months RKS Fax (from the MightyFAX stable) was recommended as well. After
that most of us seemed to accept that the disappearance of Vista was clearly
indicated in the Vista specification and that getting a third party
replacement was the way forward. I don't remember the XP fax driver as being
all that easy to set up and live with, though I had got used to it, but I am
happier with what I now have.

Doug

"Designer" <> wrote in message
news:3705FEFE-DFC1-4DBF-AEC5-...
>I was considering buying a bundled laptop package and just about every
>combo
> has the Home Premium version of Vista loaded. Fax/Scan is so basic it
> should
> be in
> the Basic version. To not include it in the Premium version is hard to
> believe. To add insult to injury, it appears there is no way to even pay
> for
> it to later include it. The product manager who came up with this concept
> better go back to class. You are infuriating people! If you don't think
> so,
> search on what people are doing (wasting time and effort) trying to work
> around this nightmare. It's not that they would not have paid for
> Ultimate
> if they knew ahead of time. The problem is it is NOT AVAILABLE in any of
> the
> bundled solutions!!!!!!!! Premium is what you get and what you don't get
> is
> basic fax functionality. Lame!!
>
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> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities....vista.general

I just bought a new Mazda MX-5. It didn't have OnStar!!! It thought it was
basic... I couldn't even buy an option! Can I downgrade to Mazda Miata?

Alias wrote:

<snipped>

It's a lot of lip service. Maybe someone should post a Linux problem in
here by mistake and put you to the test.

bow wow

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:33:00 -0700, Designer
<> wrote:

> I was considering buying a bundled laptop package and just about every combo
> has the Home Premium version of Vista loaded. Fax/Scan is so basic it should
> be in
> the Basic version. To not include it in the Premium version is hard to
> believe. To add insult to injury, it appears there is no way to even pay for
> it to later include it. The product manager who came up with this concept
> better go back to class. You are infuriating people! If you don't think so,
> search on what people are doing (wasting time and effort) trying to work
> around this nightmare. It's not that they would not have paid for Ultimate
> if they knew ahead of time. The problem is it is NOT AVAILABLE in any of the
> bundled solutions!!!!!!!! Premium is what you get and what you don't get is
> basic fax functionality. Lame!!


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Alias wrote:
> Designer wrote:
>
>> I was considering buying a bundled laptop package and just about every
>> combo has the Home Premium version of Vista loaded. Fax/Scan is so
>> basic it should be in
>> the Basic version. To not include it in the Premium version is hard to
>> believe. To add insult to injury, it appears there is no way to even
>> pay for
>> it to later include it. The product manager who came up with this concept
>> better go back to class. You are infuriating people! If you don't
>> think so, search on what people are doing (wasting time and effort)
>> trying to work around this nightmare. It's not that they would not
>> have paid for Ultimate if they knew ahead of time. The problem is it
>> is NOT AVAILABLE in any of the bundled solutions!!!!!!!! Premium is
>> what you get and what you don't get is basic fax functionality. Lame!!
>>
>> ----------------
>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
>> the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
>> button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft
>> Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities....vista.general
>>
>
>
> You are assuming, incorrectly, that Microsoft cares about its paying
> customers.

Lying linux loser!

WPA, WGA, DRM and this crap proves they don't.

They stopped a thief like you!...LOL!

i saw elsewhere that USROBOTICS, has a web page..
http://www.usr.com/bvrp/bvrp.asp?loc=unst
that has english and other languages s/w called

This BVRP PhoneTools update is intended for use with all models listed that
have been updated to V.92, this does not include OEM models:
and says good for: Version 9.03: Windows XP, XP x64 Edition, Vista, Vista
x64 Edition.

so assuming, a usr modem is no differeent than the modem u have,
(I assume they all follow / use the same AT commands, etc ..) maybe this
would/will/might work.. if someone can confirm this, many ,many people would
be a lot happier with this solution, since I don't like wasting fax paper
and enjoy a good preview, also like to use my modem that dell sold me..(I
assumed by error, I could use it for faxing...) my next goal is a cheap
scanner ($10 including good s/w is want i want, to complete my new computer
purchase).

p.s. the item below : he's 100% right !
just because a vendor sees support issues as a cost factor and fax usage is
down and can be circumvented, is not a good-enough reason to not provide
this "service"
to the PREMIUM people. M/S , like other computer giants has a bunch of
idiots working there. so this too is not news, it's just how it is. If u want
to **** people off, and do it enough times... business will suffer. if u
insted put out a KBnnnn update to add new functionality, people will run to
your door like lemmings. and say nice things about you.
so what do u think m/s will do--- stick to their past decisons and give
themselves another raise. customers are a final "load test" after
beta-tetsing. nothing more!
wgatever happened in Bill's garage is long gone dream. it's all lawaers and
accountants now. with managers with no idea of PR of software backgrounds.
The legacy of IT is gone now. us 40+ years of experienced people are a dying
and retiring breed. wizards for everyone! do what we tell u! end of
program! (EXIT STOP RUN ; GOBACK)

"Designer" wrote:

> I was considering buying a bundled laptop package and just about every combo
> has the Home Premium version of Vista loaded. Fax/Scan is so basic it should
> be in
> the Basic version. To not include it in the Premium version is hard to
> believe. To add insult to injury, it appears there is no way to even pay for
> it to later include it. The product manager who came up with this concept
> better go back to class. You are infuriating people! If you don't think so,
> search on what people are doing (wasting time and effort) trying to work
> around this nightmare. It's not that they would not have paid for Ultimate
> if they knew ahead of time. The problem is it is NOT AVAILABLE in any of the
> bundled solutions!!!!!!!! Premium is what you get and what you don't get is
> basic fax functionality. Lame!!
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities....vista.general

Snappy Fax is OUTSTANDING. Works much better than the built in fax, an
right out of the box on Vista.

'Fax Software and Network Fax Server Software
(http://www.snappysoftware.com/

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