No space left after installs

I downloaded 50 updates but 17 failed to install. I started with 146MB of
free space but now I'm down to 16MB. What can I delete to get my space back?
Where are the downloaded files that failed? Can I delete them too?

146mb of free space is to low to start with.
What size is your C drive, and is the only hd/partition?

"davez" <> wrote in message
newsBA84DDF-1074-425F-A832-...
> I downloaded 50 updates but 17 failed to install. I started with 146MB of
> free space but now I'm down to 16MB. What can I delete to get my space
back?
> Where are the downloaded files that failed? Can I delete them too?

It's an older scsi with 3GB in C and 5.5GB in D. I'm going to have to live
with this for a while longer

"DL" wrote:

> 146mb of free space is to low to start with.
> What size is your C drive, and is the only hd/partition?
>
> "davez" <> wrote in message
> newsBA84DDF-1074-425F-A832-...
> > I downloaded 50 updates but 17 failed to install. I started with 146MB of
> > free space but now I'm down to 16MB. What can I delete to get my space
> back?
> > Where are the downloaded files that failed? Can I delete them too?
>
>
>

Then your pretty well banging your head against a bick wall.

You could try uninstalling any apps on C, and reinstalling on D
Moving My Documents to D
Start>Run %temp% and deleting any resulting files. NB some will be in use
In Internet Options, Temp. Internet Files>Settings reduce to 50mb

"davez" <> wrote in message
news:C235800C-7EAC-4AD3-9514-...
> It's an older scsi with 3GB in C and 5.5GB in D. I'm going to have to live
> with this for a while longer
>
> "DL" wrote:
>
> > 146mb of free space is to low to start with.
> > What size is your C drive, and is the only hd/partition?
> >
> > "davez" <> wrote in message
> > newsBA84DDF-1074-425F-A832-...
> > > I downloaded 50 updates but 17 failed to install. I started with 146MB
of
> > > free space but now I'm down to 16MB. What can I delete to get my space
> > back?
> > > Where are the downloaded files that failed? Can I delete them too?
> >
> >
> >

davez wrote
> I downloaded 50 updates but 17 failed to install. I started with
> 146MB of free space but now I'm down to 16MB. What can I delete
> to get my space back? Where are the downloaded files that failed?
> Can I delete them too?

DL wrote:
> 146mb of free space is to low to start with.
> What size is your C drive, and is the only hd/partition?

davez wrote:
> It's an older scsi with 3GB in C and 5.5GB in D. I'm going to have
> to live with this for a while longer

You are pretty well stuck between a rock and a hard place, then.
3GB is far from sufficient to run a fully patched installation of Windows XP
with SP2 and all subsequent updates...

You can *try* to clean up some space... But it will probably never be
sufficient to do much of anything with.

And I will say - purchasing a new hard drive should not leave your list of
possible solutions.

http://www.pricewatch.com/hard%5Fdrives/
After all - when you can easily get 120GB hard disk drives for under $50
(internal) and external versions of the same thing for under $75... Shipped
in both cases - it is something to consider for backup if nothing else.

But - you want to cleanup... Let's start with the hard disk drive space...

Used Disk Cleanup?
Is hibernate turned on and do you use that feature?
Uninstalled unnecessary applications lately?

If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can delete the
uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has installed..

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm

You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but yuor
latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..

How to use Disk Cleanup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..

When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the system's
memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of the hiberfil.sys
file will always equal the amount of physical memory in your system. If you
don't use the hibernate feature and want to recapture the space that Windows
uses for the hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:

- Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start, Settings,
Control Panel, and click Power Options).
- Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check box, then
click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting Never under the
"System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab doesn't delete the
hiberfil.sys file.
- Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power Schemes
tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.

You can control how much space your System Restore can use...
(You may want to turn this off on your system.. 3GB?!)

1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and click on
the "Settings" button.
4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I suggest 5% or
higher.
5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.

You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can utilize...

Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
size between 128MB and 512MB..

- Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
- Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
- Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
following:
- Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
- Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
something between 128MB and 512MB. (Betting it is MUCH larger right
now.)
- Click OK.
- Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
(the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
minutes or more.)
- Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
Explorer.

You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
temporary files and use that to get rid of those:

Ccleaner (Free!)
http://www.ccleaner.com/

Other ways to free up space..

SequoiaView
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/

DX Hog Hunt
http://www.dvxp.com/en/Downloads.aspx

JDiskReport
http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html

Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being used.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

I'm on win2000sp4 not XP. Sorry, I thought this discussion group was for 2000
users. I know I need a larger HD but as I said I am unable to upgrade right
now. Can the uninstall folders be deleted after the installs are complete.

"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> davez wrote
> > I downloaded 50 updates but 17 failed to install. I started with
> > 146MB of free space but now I'm down to 16MB. What can I delete
> > to get my space back? Where are the downloaded files that failed?
> > Can I delete them too?
>
> DL wrote:
> > 146mb of free space is to low to start with.
> > What size is your C drive, and is the only hd/partition?
>
> davez wrote:
> > It's an older scsi with 3GB in C and 5.5GB in D. I'm going to have
> > to live with this for a while longer
>
> You are pretty well stuck between a rock and a hard place, then.
> 3GB is far from sufficient to run a fully patched installation of Windows XP
> with SP2 and all subsequent updates...
>
> You can *try* to clean up some space... But it will probably never be
> sufficient to do much of anything with.
>
> And I will say - purchasing a new hard drive should not leave your list of
> possible solutions.
>
> http://www.pricewatch.com/hard%5Fdrives/
> After all - when you can easily get 120GB hard disk drives for under $50
> (internal) and external versions of the same thing for under $75... Shipped
> in both cases - it is something to consider for backup if nothing else.
>
> But - you want to cleanup... Let's start with the hard disk drive space...
>
> Used Disk Cleanup?
> Is hibernate turned on and do you use that feature?
> Uninstalled unnecessary applications lately?
>
> If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can delete the
> uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has installed..
>
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
>
> You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but yuor
> latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..
>
> How to use Disk Cleanup
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312
>
> You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..
>
> When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the system's
> memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of the hiberfil.sys
> file will always equal the amount of physical memory in your system. If you
> don't use the hibernate feature and want to recapture the space that Windows
> uses for the hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:
>
> - Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start, Settings,
> Control Panel, and click Power Options).
> - Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check box, then
> click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting Never under the
> "System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab doesn't delete the
> hiberfil.sys file.
> - Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power Schemes
> tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.
>
> You can control how much space your System Restore can use...
> (You may want to turn this off on your system.. 3GB?!)
>
> 1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
> 2. Click the System Restore tab.
> 3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and click on
> the "Settings" button.
> 4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I suggest 5% or
> higher.
> 5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.
>
> You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can utilize...
>
> Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
> size between 128MB and 512MB..
>
> - Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
> - Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
> - Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
> following:
> - Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
> - Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
> something between 128MB and 512MB. (Betting it is MUCH larger right
> now.)
> - Click OK.
> - Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
> (the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
> minutes or more.)
> - Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
> Explorer.
>
> You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
> temporary files and use that to get rid of those:
>
> Ccleaner (Free!)
> http://www.ccleaner.com/
>
> Other ways to free up space..
>
> SequoiaView
> http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/
>
> DX Hog Hunt
> http://www.dvxp.com/en/Downloads.aspx
>
> JDiskReport
> http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html
>
> Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being used.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

davez wrote
> I downloaded 50 updates but 17 failed to install. I started with
> 146MB of free space but now I'm down to 16MB. What can I delete
> to get my space back? Where are the downloaded files that failed?
> Can I delete them too?

DL wrote:
> 146mb of free space is to low to start with.
> What size is your C drive, and is the only hd/partition?

davez wrote:
> It's an older scsi with 3GB in C and 5.5GB in D. I'm going to have
> to live with this for a while longer

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> You are pretty well stuck between a rock and a hard place, then.
> 3GB is far from sufficient to run a fully patched installation of
> Windows XP with SP2 and all subsequent updates...
>
> You can *try* to clean up some space... But it will probably never
> be sufficient to do much of anything with.
>
> And I will say - purchasing a new hard drive should not leave your
> list of possible solutions.
>
> http://www.pricewatch.com/hard%5Fdrives/
> After all - when you can easily get 120GB hard disk drives for
> under $50 (internal) and external versions of the same thing for
> under $75... Shipped in both cases - it is something to consider
> for backup if nothing else.
> But - you want to cleanup... Let's start with the hard disk drive
> space...
> Used Disk Cleanup?
> Is hibernate turned on and do you use that feature?
> Uninstalled unnecessary applications lately?
>
> If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can
> delete the uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has
> installed..
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
>
> You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but
> yuor latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..
>
> How to use Disk Cleanup
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312
>
> You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..
>
> When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the
> system's memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of
> the hiberfil.sys file will always equal the amount of physical
> memory in your system. If you don't use the hibernate feature and
> want to recapture the space that Windows uses for the hiberfil.sys
> file, perform the following steps:
> - Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start,
> Settings, Control Panel, and click Power Options).
> - Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check
> box, then click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting
> Never under the "System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab
> doesn't delete the hiberfil.sys file.
> - Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power
> Schemes tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.
>
> You can control how much space your System Restore can use...
> (You may want to turn this off on your system.. 3GB?!)
>
> 1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
> 2. Click the System Restore tab.
> 3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and
> click on the "Settings" button.
> 4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I
> suggest 5% or higher.
> 5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.
>
> You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can
> utilize...
> Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores
> to a size between 128MB and 512MB..
>
> - Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
> - Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
> - Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section,
> do the following:
> - Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
> - Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:"
> to something between 128MB and 512MB. (Betting it is MUCH larger
> right now.)
> - Click OK.
> - Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline
> contents" (the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this
> could take 2-10 minutes or more.)
> - Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open
> Internet Explorer.
>
> You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
> temporary files and use that to get rid of those:
>
> Ccleaner (Free!)
> http://www.ccleaner.com/
>
> Other ways to free up space..
>
> SequoiaView
> http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/
>
> DX Hog Hunt
> http://www.dvxp.com/en/Downloads.aspx
>
> JDiskReport
> http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html
>
> Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being
> used.

davez wrote:
> I'm on win2000sp4 not XP. Sorry, I thought this discussion group
> was for 2000 users. I know I need a larger HD but as I said I am
> unable to upgrade right now. Can the uninstall folders be deleted
> after the installs are complete.


Well - I assumed Windows XP - my bad.
Although - 3GB for even Windows 2000 - you are still well stuck between that
rock and that hard place. *grin*

You should still be able to utilize the applications/tips above (excluding
System Restore/Disk Cleanup) to free up some space.
Make sure Hibernation is turned off...
Clear out the Temporary Internet Files...
You may want to consider moving/shrinking the size of the Virtual Memory...
Clear out the uninstall files for Windows 2000 Updates...
CrapCleaner should still work nicely to give you an idea and even do the
cleanup in Windows 2000...
The other *should* still show you the trouble areas.

Will it be enough? maybe - but probably not.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm

> 4. Use similar procedure to delete uninstall files for the updates.

For you that would be WINNT. For those updates that are *not* causing
any issues, delete the $uninstallKBxxxxxx$ folders.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============


davez wrote:

> I'm on win2000sp4 not XP. Sorry, I thought this discussion group was for 2000
> users. I know I need a larger HD but as I said I am unable to upgrade right
> now. Can the uninstall folders be deleted after the installs are complete.
>
> "Shenan Stanley" wrote:
>
>
>>davez wrote
>>
>>>I downloaded 50 updates but 17 failed to install. I started with
>>>146MB of free space but now I'm down to 16MB. What can I delete
>>>to get my space back? Where are the downloaded files that failed?
>>>Can I delete them too?
>>
>>DL wrote:
>>
>>>146mb of free space is to low to start with.
>>>What size is your C drive, and is the only hd/partition?
>>
>>davez wrote:
>>
>>>It's an older scsi with 3GB in C and 5.5GB in D. I'm going to have
>>>to live with this for a while longer
>>
>>You are pretty well stuck between a rock and a hard place, then.
>>3GB is far from sufficient to run a fully patched installation of Windows XP
>>with SP2 and all subsequent updates...
>>
>>You can *try* to clean up some space... But it will probably never be
>>sufficient to do much of anything with.
>>
>>And I will say - purchasing a new hard drive should not leave your list of
>>possible solutions.
>>
>>http://www.pricewatch.com/hard%5Fdrives/
>>After all - when you can easily get 120GB hard disk drives for under $50
>>(internal) and external versions of the same thing for under $75... Shipped
>>in both cases - it is something to consider for backup if nothing else.
>>
>>But - you want to cleanup... Let's start with the hard disk drive space...
>>
>>Used Disk Cleanup?
>>Is hibernate turned on and do you use that feature?
>>Uninstalled unnecessary applications lately?
>>
>>If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can delete the
>>uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has installed..
>>
>>http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
>>
>>You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but yuor
>>latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..
>>
>> How to use Disk Cleanup
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312
>>
>>You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..
>>
>>When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the system's
>>memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of the hiberfil.sys
>>file will always equal the amount of physical memory in your system. If you
>>don't use the hibernate feature and want to recapture the space that Windows
>>uses for the hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:
>>
>> - Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start, Settings,
>>Control Panel, and click Power Options).
>> - Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check box, then
>>click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting Never under the
>>"System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab doesn't delete the
>>hiberfil.sys file.
>> - Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power Schemes
>>tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.
>>
>>You can control how much space your System Restore can use...
>>(You may want to turn this off on your system.. 3GB?!)
>>
>>1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
>>2. Click the System Restore tab.
>>3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and click on
>>the "Settings" button.
>>4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I suggest 5% or
>>higher.
>>5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.
>>
>>You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can utilize...
>>
>>Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
>>size between 128MB and 512MB..
>>
>>- Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
>>- Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
>>- Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
>> following:
>> - Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
>> - Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
>> something between 128MB and 512MB. (Betting it is MUCH larger right
>> now.)
>> - Click OK.
>> - Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
>> (the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
>> minutes or more.)
>>- Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
>> Explorer.
>>
>>You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
>>temporary files and use that to get rid of those:
>>
>> Ccleaner (Free!)
>> http://www.ccleaner.com/
>>
>>Other ways to free up space..
>>
>>SequoiaView
>>http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/
>>
>>DX Hog Hunt
>>http://www.dvxp.com/en/Downloads.aspx
>>
>>JDiskReport
>>http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html
>>
>>Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being used.
>>
>>--
>>Shenan Stanley
>> MS-MVP
>>--
>>How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>>http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>>
>>