North America

Do you know where the main gateway into north America is? I've looked
around, and I can see hosts like:

peer1.net [72.51.18.133]
layer42.net [69.36.239.125]
torontointernetxchange.net [198.32.245.122]

http://pwhittle.dlinkddns.com/pub/news02.htm

The URL above is located in Ontario, Canada.

"Patrick Whittle" <> wrote in message
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> Do you know where the main gateway into north America is? I've looked
> around, and I can see hosts like:
>
> peer1.net [72.51.18.133]
> layer42.net [69.36.239.125]
> torontointernetxchange.net [198.32.245.122]
>
> http://pwhittle.dlinkddns.com/pub/news02.htm
>
> The URL above is located in Ontario, Canada.
>


A Map of the World's Undersea Internet Cables
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-imag...SeaCableHi.jpg

Global Internet Map - TeleGeography Research
http://www.telegeography.com/product...rnet/index.php

Global Internet Map: intercontinental Internet links between the ...Aug 5,
2009 ... 2 Responses to 'Global Internet Map: intercontinental Internet
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I can only assume that these underwater cables have been there since WWII.
Kind-of like a cold war thing.

"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "Patrick Whittle" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Do you know where the main gateway into north America is? I've looked
>> around, and I can see hosts like:
>>
>> peer1.net [72.51.18.133]
>> layer42.net [69.36.239.125]
>> torontointernetxchange.net [198.32.245.122]
>>
>> http://pwhittle.dlinkddns.com/pub/news02.htm
>>
>> The URL above is located in Ontario, Canada.
>>
>
>
> A Map of the World's Undersea Internet Cables
> http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-imag...SeaCableHi.jpg
>
> Global Internet Map - TeleGeography Research
> http://www.telegeography.com/product...rnet/index.php
>
> Global Internet Map: intercontinental Internet links between the ...Aug 5,
> 2009 ... 2 Responses to 'Global Internet Map: intercontinental Internet
> links between the countries of Europe, Asia, North and Latin America, ...
> http://jaybits.com/global-internet-map
>
>
>
> --
> Ace
>
> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> confers no rights.
>
> Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit
> among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your
> resolution.
>
> Ace Fekay, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE & MCSA
> 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
> Microsoft Certified Trainer
>
> For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check
> http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>

I think that it's probably all going via satellite. I don't know when
newer trans-Atlantic cables might have been laid but I can't imagine
that these old cables can handle volume of information transmitted by
internet and I can even less imagine that they would transfer at a
respectable speed! I think going through these old cables would be like
dialup at 14.4kbps!

John

Patrick Whittle wrote:
> I can only assume that these underwater cables have been there since
> WWII. Kind-of like a cold war thing.
>
> "Ace Fekay [MCT]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> "Patrick Whittle" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Do you know where the main gateway into north America is? I've
>>> looked around, and I can see hosts like:
>>>
>>> peer1.net [72.51.18.133]
>>> layer42.net [69.36.239.125]
>>> torontointernetxchange.net [198.32.245.122]
>>>
>>> http://pwhittle.dlinkddns.com/pub/news02.htm
>>>
>>> The URL above is located in Ontario, Canada.
>>>
>>
>>
>> A Map of the World's Undersea Internet Cables
>> http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-imag...SeaCableHi.jpg
>>
>>
>> Global Internet Map - TeleGeography Research
>> http://www.telegeography.com/product...rnet/index.php
>>
>> Global Internet Map: intercontinental Internet links between the
>> ...Aug 5, 2009 ... 2 Responses to 'Global Internet Map:
>> intercontinental Internet links between the countries of Europe, Asia,
>> North and Latin America, ...
>> http://jaybits.com/global-internet-map
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ace
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
>> confers no rights.
>>
>> Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit
>> among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your
>> resolution.
>>
>> Ace Fekay, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE &
>> MCSA 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
>> Microsoft Certified Trainer
>>
>> For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check
>> http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>>
>

"John John - MVP" <> wrote in message
news:Oyf0fr%...
>I think that it's probably all going via satellite. I don't know when
>newer trans-Atlantic cables might have been laid but I can't imagine that
>these old cables can handle volume of information transmitted by internet
>and I can even less imagine that they would transfer at a respectable
>speed! I think going through these old cables would be like dialup at
>14.4kbps!
>
> John
>


I think they may have been already upgraded to fiber going across the pond.
I agree, I can't see WWII cables handling anything that we are using today,
or future traffic.

Ace

"Patrick Whittle" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I can only assume that these underwater cables have been there since WWII.
>Kind-of like a cold war thing.

Actually the Cold War was in the 50's and 60's.

Ace

Ace Fekay [MCT] wrote:
> "John John - MVP" <> wrote in message
> news:Oyf0fr%...
>> I think that it's probably all going via satellite. I don't know when
>> newer trans-Atlantic cables might have been laid but I can't imagine that
>> these old cables can handle volume of information transmitted by internet
>> and I can even less imagine that they would transfer at a respectable
>> speed! I think going through these old cables would be like dialup at
>> 14.4kbps!
>>
>> John
>>
>
>
> I think they may have been already upgraded to fiber going across the pond.
> I agree, I can't see WWII cables handling anything that we are using today,
> or future traffic.

According to the information here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transat...elephone_cable there are
several transatlantic fiber optic cables.

The article says: "...Late in the 20th century, communications
satellites lost most of their North Atlantic telephone traffic to these
low cost, high capacity cables." Quite possibly internet traffic might
also be using these fiber optic cables.

John

.... Russia retreated from Afghanistan. Other people tried to conquer. The
fall of the Soviet Union; the approach of armageddon (Pour dire des choses
négativement)
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"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <> wrote in message
news:etqqL8%...
> "Patrick Whittle" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>I can only assume that these underwater cables have been there since WWII.
>>Kind-of like a cold war thing.
>
> Actually the Cold War was in the 50's and 60's.
>
> Ace
>
>
>

NOTE: The following unrelated general newsgroup was omitted in my reply:
microsoft.public.technet

Ace Fekay [MCT] wrote:

> John John wrote ...
>
>> I think that it's probably all going via satellite.
>
> I think they may have been already upgraded to fiber going across the
> pond.

As a test, I did a traceroute from me (in USA) to the BBC (in England) which
gave:

tracert bbc.co.uk
1 <1 ms 192.168.1.1 (my router)
2 14 ms (my cable modem)
3 8 ms (my ISP's local hub)
4 7 ms (my ISP's regional hub)
5 18 ms (my ISP's national hub in Chicago)
6 52 ms (my ISP's national hub in New York)
7 59 ms (my ISP's national hub in Virginia)
8 59 ms (my ISP's international hub in Virginia)
9 131 ms 93-126-245-83.packetexchange.net [83.245.126.93]
10 295 ms 212.58.238.129
11 132 ms virtual-vip.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.138]
Trace complete.

Notice the big jump in delay as I went across the pond. The cables are still
in use. See the following site:

http://www.iscpc.org/
Read their FAQ page.

VanguardLH wrote:

> NOTE: The following unrelated general newsgroup was omitted in my reply:
> microsoft.public.technet

Oops, forgot to omit before submit. No biggie.