Not Happy With Vista

Can anyone assure me that Vista gets better? For the last two days I have
not been able to install AIM, Itunes Real Player, or just about anything
else. Itunes & Realplayer download, then either disapper and won't install,
or I just get error messages. AIM takes half an hour to install then wont
open. Im truly on the verge of taking the computer back to the store and
getting the old one out and using XP again!

"jgoering" <> wrote in message
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> Can anyone assure me that Vista gets better? For the last two days I have
> not been able to install AIM, Itunes Real Player, or just about anything
> else. Itunes & Realplayer download, then either disapper and won't
> install,
> or I just get error messages. AIM takes half an hour to install then wont
> open. Im truly on the verge of taking the computer back to the store and
> getting the old one out and using XP again!

http://www.bestvistadownloads.com/ca...-1-25-0-d.html

Real player downloads and installs OK.
I do not use AIM or I tunes but I am sure they are used by others.
That suggests something is wrong with your computer.
Contact the manufacturer for support or considering returning if they
will not assist.

Are you using the latest versions of each of those programs?

Post details of exactly what happens with error messages when you
attempt to install and someone will probably have a solution.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"jgoering" <> wrote in message
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> Can anyone assure me that Vista gets better? For the last two days
> I have
> not been able to install AIM, Itunes Real Player, or just about
> anything
> else. Itunes & Realplayer download, then either disapper and won't
> install,
> or I just get error messages. AIM takes half an hour to install
> then wont
> open. Im truly on the verge of taking the computer back to the
> store and
> getting the old one out and using XP again!

On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:56:01 -0700, jgoering wrote:

> Can anyone assure me that Vista gets better? For the last two days I have
> not been able to install AIM, Itunes Real Player, or just about anything
> else. Itunes & Realplayer download, then either disapper and won't install,
> or I just get error messages. AIM takes half an hour to install then wont
> open. Im truly on the verge of taking the computer back to the store and
> getting the old one out and using XP again!

Most competent consultants have advised their clients to wait for at least
SP1.

Depending on the reasons that is not necessary.
Many of those same consultants are making those suggestions for the
businesses they work for and upgrading to a new operating system often
has consequences never seen by typical home users.
So I would suggest your post is nearly valueless since there are to
many unknowns about the OPs situation.
It is certainly valueless as a blanket rule.

I for one have had no problems with Windows Vista on my two older
computers since installation in November.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"ray" <> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:56:01 -0700, jgoering wrote:
> Most competent consultants have advised their clients to wait for at
> least
> SP1.

I'm not "competent" but SP1 will only correct Microsoft problems. I use all
except AIM without any problems on a new Computer with Vista Premium
installed. You might want to read this:
http://beta.aol.com/projects.php?project=triton&loc=32
"ray" <> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:56:01 -0700, jgoering wrote:
>
>> Can anyone assure me that Vista gets better? For the last two days I
>> have
>> not been able to install AIM, Itunes Real Player, or just about anything
>> else. Itunes & Realplayer download, then either disapper and won't
>> install,
>> or I just get error messages. AIM takes half an hour to install then
>> wont
>> open. Im truly on the verge of taking the computer back to the store and
>> getting the old one out and using XP again!
>
> Most competent consultants have advised their clients to wait for at least
> SP1.
>

ray wrote:

> On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:56:01 -0700, jgoering wrote:
>
>
>>Can anyone assure me that Vista gets better? For the last two days I have
>>not been able to install AIM, Itunes Real Player, or just about anything
>>else. Itunes & Realplayer download, then either disapper and won't install,
>>or I just get error messages. AIM takes half an hour to install then wont
>>open. Im truly on the verge of taking the computer back to the store and
>>getting the old one out and using XP again!
>
>
> Most competent consultants have advised their clients to wait for at least
> SP1.
>

No, that's really not true at all.
Only the incompetent consultants are advising their clients not to
upgrade to Vista until SP1 comes out. That will allow them (the
incompetent consultants) to try and learn the ins and outs of Vista so
they don't look like the fools they really are when their clients do
upgrade to Vista.

On the other hand, the really competent consultants, the ones who know
what they're doing, are advising their clients to upgrade to Vista if
they desire to because, (the competent consultants) know Vista and they
know what they're doing.
That's the real truth!
Frank

On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 19:31:40 -0700, Frank <> wrote:

>ray wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:56:01 -0700, jgoering wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Can anyone assure me that Vista gets better? For the last two days I have
>>>not been able to install AIM, Itunes Real Player, or just about anything
>>>else. Itunes & Realplayer download, then either disapper and won't install,
>>>or I just get error messages. AIM takes half an hour to install then wont
>>>open. Im truly on the verge of taking the computer back to the store and
>>>getting the old one out and using XP again!

>>
>>
>> Most competent consultants have advised their clients to wait for at least
>> SP1.
>>
>
>No, that's really not true at all.
>Only the incompetent consultants are advising their clients not to
>upgrade to Vista until SP1 comes out. That will allow them (the
>incompetent consultants) to try and learn the ins and outs of Vista so
>they don't look like the fools they really are when their clients do
>upgrade to Vista.
>
>On the other hand, the really competent consultants, the ones who know
>what they're doing, are advising their clients to upgrade to Vista if
>they desire to because, (the competent consultants) know Vista and they
>know what they're doing.
>That's the real truth!
>Frank


Funny, since it was you Frank saying YOUR "consultants" needed six
months to figure out Vista. LOL!

You want the truth? You're as phony as a three dollar bill. Why do you
try to fake being some computer expert? You are no such thing and
everybody knows it.

"Frank" <> wrote in message
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> ray wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:56:01 -0700, jgoering wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Can anyone assure me that Vista gets better? For the last two days I
>>>have not been able to install AIM, Itunes Real Player, or just about
>>>anything else. Itunes & Realplayer download, then either disapper and
>>>won't install, or I just get error messages. AIM takes half an hour to
>>>install then wont open. Im truly on the verge of taking the computer
>>>back to the store and getting the old one out and using XP again!
>>
>>
>> Most competent consultants have advised their clients to wait for at
>> least
>> SP1.
>>
>
> No, that's really not true at all.
> Only the incompetent consultants are advising their clients not to upgrade
> to Vista until SP1 comes out. That will allow them (the incompetent
> consultants) to try and learn the ins and outs of Vista so they don't look
> like the fools they really are when their clients do upgrade to Vista.
>
> On the other hand, the really competent consultants, the ones who know
> what they're doing, are advising their clients to upgrade to Vista if they
> desire to because, (the competent consultants) know Vista and they know
> what they're doing.
> That's the real truth!
> Frank


It's not as simple as that. It depends on how big the network is. Is active
directory involved? Are there any 'nix or Novell servers on the network? Are
there any incompatible LOB applications? Are their computers and other
hardware Vista compatible? Do they have remote users? There is no black and
white, yes or no, answer when it comes to upgrading anything in a business
situation. I like to think I'm reasonably competent. I've been using Vista
every day for well over a year and over eight months exclusively on my
Windows computers. I'm pretty sure I know Vista better than most people. I
administer several networks on contract ranging in size from a couple of
PC's to over a hundred. I haven't recommended any of my business clients
upgrade to Vista yet. Even when buying new computers I'm still recommending
XP for them. Once some key personnel are interested I'll recommend they try
Vista at home first for a month or so then at work. Once they're comfortable
and can help other users on their network I "may" recommend Vista but it
will be all or nothing at that point. It costs a business too much to
support two OS' in most cases. It's also much cheaper to train employees if
they have the same OS at home as at work. It's not that I don't think Vista
isn't ready for business use. It's the other way around. Most businesses are
not ready for Vista.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca

Adam Albright wrote:

>
> Funny, since it was you Frank saying YOUR "consultants" needed six
> months to figure out Vista. LOL!
>

"Funny" is that you you've made up a lie about something I never ever
said simply to cover you're own incompetent stupid a*s.

> You want the truth?

I know the truth and you can't handle it!
You're fu*kin drunk again!
Sober up loser!
Frank