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Jeff Jones
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      01-14-2009
Hello,

We are moving in small steps towards S2003. Have moved print servers, DHCP,
most file shares and Applications to S2003. I want to move WINS, but have a
few questions.

Currently we have two WINS servers in one domain. WINS servers replicate
between them, but have DHCP clients set for only one WINS server (servers
are across IPSec tunnels, and it's a bit slow. If I had a problem, I could
change DHCP and have clients renew there lease.

Anycase, I am debating whether to export the WINS database from NT4 and
import into S2003 or just stop WINS on NT4 and start WINS on S2003 over a
weekend, and restart PC's, servers, printers, etc.. Reason I am debating is
I see lot's of events in firewall blocking two IPs that are no longer in
use. When I do a capture with Wireshark it shows SMB requests. Both IP's
being blocked were NT4 server. I can't figure out why the SMB requests are
still being made to NT4 servers which haven't been in use for at least a
year or two. I recently removed the old NT4 servers from the Server Manager
in NT4, however that did not rectifiy the problem. I have noticed when I
look at WINS Manager, Mappings, Show Database, and Show All Mappings, that
in the past I had a 0.0.0.0 listed under Select Owner. That seems to be
gone after I removed old NT4 servers in Server Manager.

Question1: Any explanation for the SMB requests to non-existent NT4
servers?

Question 2: Export and import the WINS database, or start fresh. I don't
have any static WINS. I don't want a bunch of upset users on a Monday
morning, either.

Thanks and sorry for the lengthy post!

Jeff


 
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Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
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      01-14-2009
Hello Jeff,

Have a look here, even it states 2000 it should work also to 2003:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/300473

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> Hello,
>
> We are moving in small steps towards S2003. Have moved print servers,
> DHCP, most file shares and Applications to S2003. I want to move
> WINS, but have a few questions.
>
> Currently we have two WINS servers in one domain. WINS servers
> replicate between them, but have DHCP clients set for only one WINS
> server (servers are across IPSec tunnels, and it's a bit slow. If I
> had a problem, I could change DHCP and have clients renew there lease.
>
> Anycase, I am debating whether to export the WINS database from NT4
> and import into S2003 or just stop WINS on NT4 and start WINS on S2003
> over a weekend, and restart PC's, servers, printers, etc.. Reason I
> am debating is I see lot's of events in firewall blocking two IPs that
> are no longer in use. When I do a capture with Wireshark it shows SMB
> requests. Both IP's being blocked were NT4 server. I can't figure
> out why the SMB requests are still being made to NT4 servers which
> haven't been in use for at least a year or two. I recently removed
> the old NT4 servers from the Server Manager in NT4, however that did
> not rectifiy the problem. I have noticed when I look at WINS Manager,
> Mappings, Show Database, and Show All Mappings, that in the past I had
> a 0.0.0.0 listed under Select Owner. That seems to be gone after I
> removed old NT4 servers in Server Manager.
>
> Question1: Any explanation for the SMB requests to non-existent NT4
> servers?
>
> Question 2: Export and import the WINS database, or start fresh. I
> don't have any static WINS. I don't want a bunch of upset users on a
> Monday morning, either.
>
> Thanks and sorry for the lengthy post!
>
> Jeff
>



 
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Jeff Jones
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      01-14-2009
Meinolf,

Thanks for the information. I have read the KB link, and it provides a
general guideline on how to migrate.

I still have questions on why I see SMB requests to non-existent NT4
servers, and whether I should migrate or just start fresh with WINS on a
S2003.

I am also wondering if there is any reason to have DNS in place before I
migrate WINS.

Thanks for your reply!

Jeff


"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Hello Jeff,
>
> Have a look here, even it states 2000 it should work also to 2003:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/300473
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> We are moving in small steps towards S2003. Have moved print servers,
>> DHCP, most file shares and Applications to S2003. I want to move
>> WINS, but have a few questions.
>>
>> Currently we have two WINS servers in one domain. WINS servers
>> replicate between them, but have DHCP clients set for only one WINS
>> server (servers are across IPSec tunnels, and it's a bit slow. If I
>> had a problem, I could change DHCP and have clients renew there lease.
>>
>> Anycase, I am debating whether to export the WINS database from NT4
>> and import into S2003 or just stop WINS on NT4 and start WINS on S2003
>> over a weekend, and restart PC's, servers, printers, etc.. Reason I
>> am debating is I see lot's of events in firewall blocking two IPs that
>> are no longer in use. When I do a capture with Wireshark it shows SMB
>> requests. Both IP's being blocked were NT4 server. I can't figure
>> out why the SMB requests are still being made to NT4 servers which
>> haven't been in use for at least a year or two. I recently removed
>> the old NT4 servers from the Server Manager in NT4, however that did
>> not rectifiy the problem. I have noticed when I look at WINS Manager,
>> Mappings, Show Database, and Show All Mappings, that in the past I had
>> a 0.0.0.0 listed under Select Owner. That seems to be gone after I
>> removed old NT4 servers in Server Manager.
>>
>> Question1: Any explanation for the SMB requests to non-existent NT4
>> servers?
>>
>> Question 2: Export and import the WINS database, or start fresh. I
>> don't have any static WINS. I don't want a bunch of upset users on a
>> Monday morning, either.
>>
>> Thanks and sorry for the lengthy post!
>>
>> Jeff
>>

>
>



 
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Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
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      01-14-2009
Hello Jeff,

AD relies on DNS and do not require WINS for it's functionality anymore.
DNS is a MUST with AD.

Can you specify the SMB part?

Some services/applications still require WINS and also if you need network
browsing over multiple subnets WINS is required.

If you have not such a big network you can also start with WINS form scratch,
depends on you.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Meinolf,
>
> Thanks for the information. I have read the KB link, and it provides
> a general guideline on how to migrate.
>
> I still have questions on why I see SMB requests to non-existent NT4
> servers, and whether I should migrate or just start fresh with WINS on
> a S2003.
>
> I am also wondering if there is any reason to have DNS in place before
> I migrate WINS.
>
> Thanks for your reply!
>
> Jeff
>
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news: .com...
>
>> Hello Jeff,
>>
>> Have a look here, even it states 2000 it should work also to 2003:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/300473
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> We are moving in small steps towards S2003. Have moved print
>>> servers, DHCP, most file shares and Applications to S2003. I want
>>> to move WINS, but have a few questions.
>>>
>>> Currently we have two WINS servers in one domain. WINS servers
>>> replicate between them, but have DHCP clients set for only one WINS
>>> server (servers are across IPSec tunnels, and it's a bit slow. If I
>>> had a problem, I could change DHCP and have clients renew there
>>> lease.
>>>
>>> Anycase, I am debating whether to export the WINS database from NT4
>>> and import into S2003 or just stop WINS on NT4 and start WINS on
>>> S2003 over a weekend, and restart PC's, servers, printers, etc..
>>> Reason I am debating is I see lot's of events in firewall blocking
>>> two IPs that are no longer in use. When I do a capture with
>>> Wireshark it shows SMB requests. Both IP's being blocked were NT4
>>> server. I can't figure out why the SMB requests are still being
>>> made to NT4 servers which haven't been in use for at least a year or
>>> two. I recently removed the old NT4 servers from the Server Manager
>>> in NT4, however that did not rectifiy the problem. I have noticed
>>> when I look at WINS Manager, Mappings, Show Database, and Show All
>>> Mappings, that in the past I had a 0.0.0.0 listed under Select
>>> Owner. That seems to be gone after I removed old NT4 servers in
>>> Server Manager.
>>>
>>> Question1: Any explanation for the SMB requests to non-existent NT4
>>> servers?
>>>
>>> Question 2: Export and import the WINS database, or start fresh. I
>>> don't have any static WINS. I don't want a bunch of upset users on
>>> a Monday morning, either.
>>>
>>> Thanks and sorry for the lengthy post!
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>



 
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