NTBackup.exe (from Windows XP)

Windows Vista Home Premium.

I have found a couple of articles on how to use NTBackup on Vista and
have been successful in doing Full backups on specified folders.
However, Differential backups don't seem to work. I need to perform
both types on a user's new Vista laptop. Upon installing NTBackup on
the user's laptop, I did a Full backup on selected folders. As a
test, I then attempted a Differential backup on the same folders.
What I obtained was another Full backup. Is this a known issue with
NTBackup on Vista? I would hazard a guess that the "Backup" file
attribute flag is not being reset upon performing a Full backup.
Thanks!
--
System Administrator
Sprotte + Watson Architecture and Planning
Vista, CA

You really should not use NTBackup at all. Use the Backup included with Vista
or a third party utility instead. Most of the NTbackup articles are
instructions for transferring XP backups to the vista computer, not to use
them for future bu's. I bet if you tried to restore any of those backups,
they would fail.

"System Administrator" wrote:

> Windows Vista Home Premium.
>
> I have found a couple of articles on how to use NTBackup on Vista and
> have been successful in doing Full backups on specified folders.
> However, Differential backups don't seem to work. I need to perform
> both types on a user's new Vista laptop. Upon installing NTBackup on
> the user's laptop, I did a Full backup on selected folders. As a
> test, I then attempted a Differential backup on the same folders.
> What I obtained was another Full backup. Is this a known issue with
> NTBackup on Vista? I would hazard a guess that the "Backup" file
> attribute flag is not being reset upon performing a Full backup.
> Thanks!
> --
> System Administrator
> Sprotte + Watson Architecture and Planning
> Vista, CA
>

Mary, why would a transferred XP backup (presumably using NTBackup's
restore) work on Vista using NTBackup and a newly created NTBackup
backup not restore?


On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:37:01 -0800, Mary
<> wrote:

>You really should not use NTBackup at all. Use the Backup included with Vista
>or a third party utility instead. Most of the NTbackup articles are
>instructions for transferring XP backups to the vista computer, not to use
>them for future bu's. I bet if you tried to restore any of those backups,
>they would fail.
>
>"System Administrator" wrote:
>
>> Windows Vista Home Premium.
>>
>> I have found a couple of articles on how to use NTBackup on Vista and
>> have been successful in doing Full backups on specified folders.
>> However, Differential backups don't seem to work. I need to perform
>> both types on a user's new Vista laptop. Upon installing NTBackup on
>> the user's laptop, I did a Full backup on selected folders. As a
>> test, I then attempted a Differential backup on the same folders.
>> What I obtained was another Full backup. Is this a known issue with
>> NTBackup on Vista? I would hazard a guess that the "Backup" file
>> attribute flag is not being reset upon performing a Full backup.
>> Thanks!
>> --
>> System Administrator
>> Sprotte + Watson Architecture and Planning
>> Vista, CA
>>

--
System Administrator
Sprotte + Watson Architecture and Planning
Vista, CA

Installing Ntbackup on Vista was intended only so that data could be
recovered from XP backups. Microsoft has issued a tool
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
to avoid the need to install Ntbackup.

Ntbackup is unlikely to work successfully on Vista because it knows nothing
about any detailed changes to the NTFS file system and in particular has no
knowledge of the Vista system structure.

If you want to backup your files in Vista, use the backup in your Vista
version or get a third-party backup program which is written for Vista.




"System Administrator" <> wrote in
message news:...
> Windows Vista Home Premium.
>
> I have found a couple of articles on how to use NTBackup on Vista and
> have been successful in doing Full backups on specified folders.
> However, Differential backups don't seem to work. I need to perform
> both types on a user's new Vista laptop. Upon installing NTBackup on
> the user's laptop, I did a Full backup on selected folders. As a
> test, I then attempted a Differential backup on the same folders.
> What I obtained was another Full backup. Is this a known issue with
> NTBackup on Vista? I would hazard a guess that the "Backup" file
> attribute flag is not being reset upon performing a Full backup.
> Thanks!
> --
> System Administrator
> Sprotte + Watson Architecture and Planning
> Vista, CA

"Dominic Payer" <> wrote in message
news:9AC3CDCB-E623-47BB-9E8E-...
> Installing Ntbackup on Vista was intended only so that data could be
> recovered from XP backups. Microsoft has issued a tool
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
> to avoid the need to install Ntbackup.
>
> Ntbackup is unlikely to work successfully on Vista because it knows
> nothing about any detailed changes to the NTFS file system and in
> particular has no knowledge of the Vista system structure.
>
> If you want to backup your files in Vista, use the backup in your Vista
> version or get a third-party backup program which is written for Vista.

It does work with Vista. However I don't use it to back up my system. I DO
use it retrieve archives made under XP.

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Ntbackup can be made to work just fine in Vista.
http://www.petri.co.il/installing_wi...dows_vista.htm

However, I also recommend using third-party software
instead of Ntbackup or the built-in backup offered in Vista.
Use Acronis True Image. Image backups, file and folder backups.
So many more options than Vista's backup.
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing...age/index.html


-Michael

"Dominic Payer" <> wrote in message
news:9AC3CDCB-E623-47BB-9E8E-...
> Installing Ntbackup on Vista was intended only so that data could be recovered from XP
> backups. Microsoft has issued a tool
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
> to avoid the need to install Ntbackup.
>
> Ntbackup is unlikely to work successfully on Vista because it knows nothing about any
> detailed changes to the NTFS file system and in particular has no knowledge of the Vista
> system structure.
>
> If you want to backup your files in Vista, use the backup in your Vista version or get a
> third-party backup program which is written for Vista.
>
>
>
>
> "System Administrator" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Windows Vista Home Premium.
>>
>> I have found a couple of articles on how to use NTBackup on Vista and
>> have been successful in doing Full backups on specified folders.
>> However, Differential backups don't seem to work. I need to perform
>> both types on a user's new Vista laptop. Upon installing NTBackup on
>> the user's laptop, I did a Full backup on selected folders. As a
>> test, I then attempted a Differential backup on the same folders.
>> What I obtained was another Full backup. Is this a known issue with
>> NTBackup on Vista? I would hazard a guess that the "Backup" file
>> attribute flag is not being reset upon performing a Full backup.
>> Thanks!
>> --
>> System Administrator
>> Sprotte + Watson Architecture and Planning
>> Vista, CA
>

I thank everyone for their comments.

Michael, do you know if NTBackup Differential backups work on Vista?
As I mentioned in my original post, they don't seem to work. I
haven't been at a Vista machine since my original test, so I haven't
been able to confirm. Thanks.


On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:09:40 -0500, "MICHAEL" <>
wrote:

>Ntbackup can be made to work just fine in Vista.
>http://www.petri.co.il/installing_wi...dows_vista.htm
>
>However, I also recommend using third-party software
>instead of Ntbackup or the built-in backup offered in Vista.
>Use Acronis True Image. Image backups, file and folder backups.
>So many more options than Vista's backup.
>http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing...age/index.html
>
>
>-Michael
>
>"Dominic Payer" <> wrote in message
>news:9AC3CDCB-E623-47BB-9E8E-...
>> Installing Ntbackup on Vista was intended only so that data could be recovered from XP
>> backups. Microsoft has issued a tool
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
>> to avoid the need to install Ntbackup.
>>
>> Ntbackup is unlikely to work successfully on Vista because it knows nothing about any
>> detailed changes to the NTFS file system and in particular has no knowledge of the Vista
>> system structure.
>>
>> If you want to backup your files in Vista, use the backup in your Vista version or get a
>> third-party backup program which is written for Vista.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "System Administrator" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Windows Vista Home Premium.
>>>
>>> I have found a couple of articles on how to use NTBackup on Vista and
>>> have been successful in doing Full backups on specified folders.
>>> However, Differential backups don't seem to work. I need to perform
>>> both types on a user's new Vista laptop. Upon installing NTBackup on
>>> the user's laptop, I did a Full backup on selected folders. As a
>>> test, I then attempted a Differential backup on the same folders.
>>> What I obtained was another Full backup. Is this a known issue with
>>> NTBackup on Vista? I would hazard a guess that the "Backup" file
>>> attribute flag is not being reset upon performing a Full backup.
>>> Thanks!
>>> --
>>> System Administrator
>>> Sprotte + Watson Architecture and Planning
>>> Vista, CA
>>

--
System Administrator
Sprotte + Watson Architecture and Planning
Vista, CA

No, sorry I don't know.

Wish I could help more. I really only use Acronis True Image
for most of my backup needs.

Good luck.

Take care,

Michael

"System Administrator" <> wrote in message
news:...
> I thank everyone for their comments.
>
> Michael, do you know if NTBackup Differential backups work on Vista?
> As I mentioned in my original post, they don't seem to work. I
> haven't been at a Vista machine since my original test, so I haven't
> been able to confirm. Thanks.
>
>
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:09:40 -0500, "MICHAEL" <>
> wrote:
>
>>Ntbackup can be made to work just fine in Vista.
>>http://www.petri.co.il/installing_wi...dows_vista.htm
>>
>>However, I also recommend using third-party software
>>instead of Ntbackup or the built-in backup offered in Vista.
>>Use Acronis True Image. Image backups, file and folder backups.
>>So many more options than Vista's backup.
>>http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing...age/index.html
>>
>>
>>-Michael
>>
>>"Dominic Payer" <> wrote in message
>>news:9AC3CDCB-E623-47BB-9E8E-...
>>> Installing Ntbackup on Vista was intended only so that data could be recovered from XP
>>> backups. Microsoft has issued a tool
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
>>> to avoid the need to install Ntbackup.
>>>
>>> Ntbackup is unlikely to work successfully on Vista because it knows nothing about any
>>> detailed changes to the NTFS file system and in particular has no knowledge of the Vista
>>> system structure.
>>>
>>> If you want to backup your files in Vista, use the backup in your Vista version or get a
>>> third-party backup program which is written for Vista.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "System Administrator" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> Windows Vista Home Premium.
>>>>
>>>> I have found a couple of articles on how to use NTBackup on Vista and
>>>> have been successful in doing Full backups on specified folders.
>>>> However, Differential backups don't seem to work. I need to perform
>>>> both types on a user's new Vista laptop. Upon installing NTBackup on
>>>> the user's laptop, I did a Full backup on selected folders. As a
>>>> test, I then attempted a Differential backup on the same folders.
>>>> What I obtained was another Full backup. Is this a known issue with
>>>> NTBackup on Vista? I would hazard a guess that the "Backup" file
>>>> attribute flag is not being reset upon performing a Full backup.
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> --
>>>> System Administrator
>>>> Sprotte + Watson Architecture and Planning
>>>> Vista, CA
>>>
>
> --
> System Administrator
> Sprotte + Watson Architecture and Planning
> Vista, CA

OK, Michael. Thanks!


On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:37:11 -0500, "MICHAEL" <>
wrote:

>No, sorry I don't know.
>
>Wish I could help more. I really only use Acronis True Image
>for most of my backup needs.
>
>Good luck.
>
>Take care,
>
>Michael
>
>"System Administrator" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> I thank everyone for their comments.
>>
>> Michael, do you know if NTBackup Differential backups work on Vista?
>> As I mentioned in my original post, they don't seem to work. I
>> haven't been at a Vista machine since my original test, so I haven't
>> been able to confirm. Thanks.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:09:40 -0500, "MICHAEL" <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Ntbackup can be made to work just fine in Vista.
>>>http://www.petri.co.il/installing_wi...dows_vista.htm
>>>
>>>However, I also recommend using third-party software
>>>instead of Ntbackup or the built-in backup offered in Vista.
>>>Use Acronis True Image. Image backups, file and folder backups.
>>>So many more options than Vista's backup.
>>>http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing...age/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>>-Michael
>>>
>>>"Dominic Payer" <> wrote in message
>>>news:9AC3CDCB-E623-47BB-9E8E-...
>>>> Installing Ntbackup on Vista was intended only so that data could be recovered from XP
>>>> backups. Microsoft has issued a tool
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
>>>> to avoid the need to install Ntbackup.
>>>>
>>>> Ntbackup is unlikely to work successfully on Vista because it knows nothing about any
>>>> detailed changes to the NTFS file system and in particular has no knowledge of the Vista
>>>> system structure.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to backup your files in Vista, use the backup in your Vista version or get a
>>>> third-party backup program which is written for Vista.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "System Administrator" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> Windows Vista Home Premium.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have found a couple of articles on how to use NTBackup on Vista and
>>>>> have been successful in doing Full backups on specified folders.
>>>>> However, Differential backups don't seem to work. I need to perform
>>>>> both types on a user's new Vista laptop. Upon installing NTBackup on
>>>>> the user's laptop, I did a Full backup on selected folders. As a
>>>>> test, I then attempted a Differential backup on the same folders.
>>>>> What I obtained was another Full backup. Is this a known issue with
>>>>> NTBackup on Vista? I would hazard a guess that the "Backup" file
>>>>> attribute flag is not being reset upon performing a Full backup.
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> --
>>>>> System Administrator
>>>>> Sprotte + Watson Architecture and Planning
>>>>> Vista, CA
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> System Administrator
>> Sprotte + Watson Architecture and Planning
>> Vista, CA

--
System Administrator
Sprotte + Watson Architecture and Planning
Vista, CA

"MICHAEL" <> wrote in message
news:Oa#...
> Ntbackup can be made to work just fine in Vista.
> http://www.petri.co.il/installing_wi...dows_vista.htm

I can't get it to work. All I get is an error stating that the Backup
Utility cannot
connect to the Removable Storage Service. I'm looking at the list of
Services and
RSS *is* started.

Tom Lake