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John A Grandy
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      01-24-2009
Apparently , Vista does not include ntcmds.chm ( the help file for
cmd.exe ) ...

( I did a disk-wide search and did not find it )

Has ntcmds.chm been renamed or replaced with another help file ?

Thanks.

 
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John A Grandy
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      01-26-2009
I can't believe they didn't include it ...

I wonder if that was due to a decision to not keep it up to date.


"Dave-UK" <> wrote in message
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> "John A Grandy" <johnagrandy@g-mail-dot-com> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Apparently , Vista does not include ntcmds.chm ( the help file for
>> cmd.exe ) ...
>>
>> ( I did a disk-wide search and did not find it )
>>
>> Has ntcmds.chm been renamed or replaced with another help file ?
>>
>> Thanks.

>
> The only one I know of is ' help ' at the command prompt.
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John A Grandy
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      01-26-2009
Give me a break ...

If we all we are is a bunch of googlers , we might as well permanently
cancel all of these newsgroups.

The growing obsession of many with posting snide "google it" comments
doesn't serve anyone's interests -- least of all the obsessive googlers.

There are many reasons for this , one of the less obvious is that obsessive
googling makes a profession which has certain intrinsic anti-social
tendencies even more anti-social. Historically, the newsgroups haven't just
been about "answers" but also about discussion and ... ( horrors ) opinion !

Those who just want to "just google it" all day and night probably should
stay away from the newsgroups.

But back to the topic at hand : cmd.exe help is hardly a substitute for a
well-written chm ( one of MS's better inventions ) , and over the years (
I've been doing this since 1995 ) , I've found ntcmds.chm to be one of the
better chms MS has put together.

There is a growing tendency at MS to "fix it when it ain't broke". They
seem to be in a ( potentially marketing led pattern ) of switching things
around to justify the new license fees ( kind of a variant on 3 card
Monte ). No wonder Vista sales have massively dissapointed Wall Street.


"Randall Flagg" <> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:40:51 -0800, "John A Grandy"
> <johnagrandy@g-mail-dot-com> wrote:
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>>I can't believe they didn't include it ...

>
> I can't believe you haven't Googled it: "VISTA CMD.EXE HELP"
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>>I wonder if that was due to a decision to not keep it up to date.
>>
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>>"Dave-UK" <> wrote in message
>>news:N8adnRVEUYeC0-...
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>>>
>>> "John A Grandy" <johnagrandy@g-mail-dot-com> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> Apparently , Vista does not include ntcmds.chm ( the help file for
>>>> cmd.exe ) ...
>>>>
>>>> ( I did a disk-wide search and did not find it )
>>>>
>>>> Has ntcmds.chm been renamed or replaced with another help file ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> The only one I know of is ' help ' at the command prompt.
>>>
>>>


 
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Ken Blake, MVP
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      01-26-2009
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:55:09 -0800, "John A Grandy"
<johnagrandy@g-mail-dot-com> wrote:

> Give me a break ...
>
> If we all we are is a bunch of googlers , we might as well permanently
> cancel all of these newsgroups.
>
> The growing obsession of many with posting snide "google it" comments
> doesn't serve anyone's interests -- least of all the obsessive googlers.




I completely agree with you. Here's my standard post on this subject:

There is almost no information or solution to someone's problem that
anyone can supply here that isn't already available somewhere on the
internet. The answer to *any* question could be "do a Google search."
Follow that to its logical conclusion and there would be no need for
newsgroups like this at all.

Not everyone knows about all the online resources available nor has
the skills to search them effectively. If one of us who already knows
the answer to a question can supply it, then we do a service to the
person asking.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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