ntfs partition formated with 16k clusters

Can vista 32 pro install on an ntfs partition formated with 16k clusters. If
so how can I format the drive to 16k clusters using the vista boot cd, are
there any steps or commands I need to do during the boot sequence? And are
there any "stable" third party programs or suggestions so I don't have to
dump the current os that is on the drive? As I believe that the image file
restores the cluster size.

thanks, any thoughts?

"Dattron" ha scritto:
> Can vista 32 pro install on an ntfs partition formated with 16k clusters.

I don't think it's possible.

> And are
> there any "stable" third party programs or suggestions so I don't have to
> dump the current os that is on the drive?

This is not possible for sure.
The dimension of the clusters can be modified only during a format.

Bye!

"8n20_C#" <> wrote in message
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> "Dattron" ha scritto:
>> Can vista 32 pro install on an ntfs partition formated with 16k clusters.
>
> I don't think it's possible.
>
>> And are
>> there any "stable" third party programs or suggestions so I don't have to
>> dump the current os that is on the drive?
>
> This is not possible for sure.
> The dimension of the clusters can be modified only during a format.
>
> Bye!
>
Ehhhhh Wrong again

"smbdymf" wrote:
> Ehhhhh Wrong again

Sorry, can you tell me where i'm wrong?
Do you know some apps that can resize the clusters dimension?

Bye!

Thanks for your thoughts however if anyone else has any more solid
information on the vista cluster\defrag issue below, it would be greatly
appreciated..........

Can vista 32 pro install on an ntfs partition formated with 16k clusters. If
so how can I format the drive to 16k clusters using the vista boot cd, are
there any steps or commands I need to do during the boot sequence? And are
there any "stable" third party programs or suggestions so I don't have to
dump the current os that is on the drive? As I believe that the image file
restores the cluster size.

thanks, any thoughts?




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"8n20_C#" wrote:

> "Dattron" ha scritto:
> > Can vista 32 pro install on an ntfs partition formated with 16k clusters.
>
> I don't think it's possible.
>
> > And are
> > there any "stable" third party programs or suggestions so I don't have to
> > dump the current os that is on the drive?
>
> This is not possible for sure.
> The dimension of the clusters can be modified only during a format.
>
> Bye!
>
>

16KB clusters would run Vista extremely slow. The default 4KB cluster
size is optimal for Vista.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows Vista Enthusiast

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"Dattron" <> wrote in message news:1EA799FE-A28C-477E-97CE-...
Thanks for your thoughts however if anyone else has any more solid
information on the vista cluster\defrag issue below, it would be greatly
appreciated..........

Can vista 32 pro install on an ntfs partition formated with 16k clusters. If
so how can I format the drive to 16k clusters using the vista boot cd, are
there any steps or commands I need to do during the boot sequence? And are
there any "stable" third party programs or suggestions so I don't have to
dump the current os that is on the drive? As I believe that the image file
restores the cluster size.

thanks, any thoughts?




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"8n20_C#" wrote:

> "Dattron" ha scritto:
> > Can vista 32 pro install on an ntfs partition formated with 16k clusters.
>
> I don't think it's possible.
>
> > And are
> > there any "stable" third party programs or suggestions so I don't have to
> > dump the current os that is on the drive?
>
> This is not possible for sure.
> The dimension of the clusters can be modified only during a format.
>
> Bye!
>
>

Hi Carey,

Thanks for getting back to me I will look in to that, it's good info.
However I thought I read somewhere that larger clusters would speed things up
but hinder hard drive space. Anyway thanks for the feedback...

Mike

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

> 16KB clusters would run Vista extremely slow. The default 4KB cluster
> size is optimal for Vista.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience -
> Windows Vista Enthusiast
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Dattron" <> wrote in message news:1EA799FE-A28C-477E-97CE-...
> Thanks for your thoughts however if anyone else has any more solid
> information on the vista cluster\defrag issue below, it would be greatly
> appreciated..........
>
> Can vista 32 pro install on an ntfs partition formated with 16k clusters. If
> so how can I format the drive to 16k clusters using the vista boot cd, are
> there any steps or commands I need to do during the boot sequence? And are
> there any "stable" third party programs or suggestions so I don't have to
> dump the current os that is on the drive? As I believe that the image file
> restores the cluster size.
>
> thanks, any thoughts?
>
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> "8n20_C#" wrote:
>
> > "Dattron" ha scritto:
> > > Can vista 32 pro install on an ntfs partition formated with 16k clusters.
> >
> > I don't think it's possible.
> >
> > > And are
> > > there any "stable" third party programs or suggestions so I don't have to
> > > dump the current os that is on the drive?
> >
> > This is not possible for sure.
> > The dimension of the clusters can be modified only during a format.
> >
> > Bye!
> >
> >
>

On Thu, 8 May 2008 19:45:00 -0700, Dattron
<> wrote:

>Hi Carey,
>
>Thanks for getting back to me I will look in to that, it's good info.
>However I thought I read somewhere that larger clusters would speed things up
>but hinder hard drive space. Anyway thanks for the feedback...
>
>Mike

Here's an article that says for optimal performance on an NTFS drive,
16kb is the best. Exact wording:

"The typical cluster's size for NTFS constitutes 4 KBytes. But with
the cluster of a big size, there isn't any more an opportunity of
compression of separate files. So, the optimal size is 16 KBytes. The
further increase is not effective. If you want to increase the
performance of NTFS (though you will lose possibility of compression),
make your disc formatted with the cluster's size more than 4 KBytes."

http://www.digit-life.com/articles/ntfs/index3.html

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> 16KB clusters would run Vista extremely slow. The default 4KB cluster
> size is optimal for Vista.

<chuckle>

ss.

"8n20_C#" <> wrote in message
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> "smbdymf" wrote:
>> Ehhhhh Wrong again
>
> Sorry, can you tell me where i'm wrong?
> Do you know some apps that can resize the clusters dimension?

Yeah, Acronis Disk Director can. Partition Magic could as well, IIRC.

ss.