OEM and Retail Vista DVDs identical?

I have a generic OEM Vista DVD and product key (System Builder Disc). If I
install Vista without entering the product key, I get the Retail EULA shown
(it states EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_RTL_en-US at the bottom). If I use the
same disc and enter my product key, I get the OEM EULA
(EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US).

Does this mean that an OEM key can be used on a Retail disc and vise-versa?
I know with XP, the OEM/Retail keys were specific to the media and couldn't
be swapped.

No, OEM Keys are hard coded to system they are distributed with, OEM
versions of Windows do not allow upgrades. Windows Vista retail FPP can be
transferred according to the license agreement.
--
Andre
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"Brian W" <> wrote in message
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>I have a generic OEM Vista DVD and product key (System Builder Disc). If I
>install Vista without entering the product key, I get the Retail EULA shown
>(it states EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_RTL_en-US at the bottom). If I use
>the same disc and enter my product key, I get the OEM EULA
>(EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US).
>
> Does this mean that an OEM key can be used on a Retail disc and
> vise-versa? I know with XP, the OEM/Retail keys were specific to the media
> and couldn't be swapped.
>
>

>OEM Keys are hard coded to system they are distributed with

No this is incorrect.. again Andre you seem to be saying more wrong things
than right

what you say applies to only a few companies like HP or DELL

the majority all over the world have product keys



"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <> wrote in message
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> No, OEM Keys are hard coded to system they are distributed with, OEM
> versions of Windows do not allow upgrades. Windows Vista retail FPP can be
> transferred according to the license agreement.
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "Brian W" <> wrote in message
> news:x_Rhj.14469$...
>>I have a generic OEM Vista DVD and product key (System Builder Disc). If I
>>install Vista without entering the product key, I get the Retail EULA
>>shown (it states EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_RTL_en-US at the bottom). If I
>>use the same disc and enter my product key, I get the OEM EULA
>>(EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US).
>>
>> Does this mean that an OEM key can be used on a Retail disc and
>> vise-versa? I know with XP, the OEM/Retail keys were specific to the
>> media and couldn't be swapped.
>>
>>
>
>

"OEM versions of Windows do not allow upgrades!"

How did all the people that bought OEM computers pre-installed with XP
manage to upgrade to Vista?????

You are dangerous on here!!!!

This is being all logged!

"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:

> No, OEM Keys are hard coded to system they are distributed with, OEM
> versions of Windows do not allow upgrades. Windows Vista retail FPP can be
> transferred according to the license agreement.
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "Brian W" <> wrote in message
> news:x_Rhj.14469$...
> >I have a generic OEM Vista DVD and product key (System Builder Disc). If I
> >install Vista without entering the product key, I get the Retail EULA shown
> >(it states EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_RTL_en-US at the bottom). If I use
> >the same disc and enter my product key, I get the OEM EULA
> >(EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US).
> >
> > Does this mean that an OEM key can be used on a Retail disc and
> > vise-versa? I know with XP, the OEM/Retail keys were specific to the media
> > and couldn't be swapped.
> >
> >
>
>
>

"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> No, OEM Keys are hard coded to system they are distributed with, OEM
> versions of Windows do not allow upgrades. Windows Vista retail FPP can be
> transferred according to the license agreement.

I've done an upgrade from XP to Vista using an OEM product key. It does work
(as i've said before). And System Builder OEM keys are not hard-coded to
anything.

> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "Brian W" <> wrote in message
> news:x_Rhj.14469$...
>>I have a generic OEM Vista DVD and product key (System Builder Disc). If I
>>install Vista without entering the product key, I get the Retail EULA
>>shown (it states EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_RTL_en-US at the bottom). If I
>>use the same disc and enter my product key, I get the OEM EULA
>>(EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US).
>>
>> Does this mean that an OEM key can be used on a Retail disc and
>> vise-versa? I know with XP, the OEM/Retail keys were specific to the
>> media and couldn't be swapped.
>>
>>
>
>

Try using a Dell Vista Home Premium DVD to upgrade an XP installation on
another computer.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Mick Murphy" <> wrote in message
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> "OEM versions of Windows do not allow upgrades!"
>
> How did all the people that bought OEM computers pre-installed with XP
> manage to upgrade to Vista?????
>
> You are dangerous on here!!!!
>
> This is being all logged!
>
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:
>
>> No, OEM Keys are hard coded to system they are distributed with, OEM
>> versions of Windows do not allow upgrades. Windows Vista retail FPP can
>> be
>> transferred according to the license agreement.
>> --
>> Andre
>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>> "Brian W" <> wrote in message
>> news:x_Rhj.14469$...
>> >I have a generic OEM Vista DVD and product key (System Builder Disc). If
>> >I
>> >install Vista without entering the product key, I get the Retail EULA
>> >shown
>> >(it states EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_RTL_en-US at the bottom). If I use
>> >the same disc and enter my product key, I get the OEM EULA
>> >(EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US).
>> >
>> > Does this mean that an OEM key can be used on a Retail disc and
>> > vise-versa? I know with XP, the OEM/Retail keys were specific to the
>> > media
>> > and couldn't be swapped.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>

Mick Murphy wrote:
> "OEM versions of Windows do not allow upgrades!"
>
> How did all the people that bought OEM computers pre-installed with XP
> manage to upgrade to Vista?????
>


What the Andre meant - and what those of us with a modicum of
experience understood - is that one cannot perform an upgrade using an
OEM disk; they're specifically designed to perform only clean
installations. There's nothing to prevent one from upgrading *from* and
OEM installation of a qualifying OS.


> You are dangerous on here!!!!
>

On the contrary, Andre is consistently one of the most helpful and
knowledgeable posters in the Vista newsgroups.


> This is being all logged!
>


You're logging your own mistakes and misunderstandings? Good idea, but
don't forget to review and learn from them, now and then.



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>
> This is being all logged!
>


LOL - by whom and for what purpose?

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"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <> wrote in message
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> Try using a Dell Vista Home Premium DVD to upgrade an XP installation on
> another computer.

Fair enough, but I did say I was using a generic System Builder disc (ie a
MS supplied one with no PC manufacturer modifications). These are, as far as
I can tell, identical to Retail media.

> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "Mick Murphy" <> wrote in message
> news:F7234AC9-5DBB-462D-ABFC-...
>> "OEM versions of Windows do not allow upgrades!"
>>
>> How did all the people that bought OEM computers pre-installed with XP
>> manage to upgrade to Vista?????
>>
>> You are dangerous on here!!!!
>>
>> This is being all logged!
>>
>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:
>>
>>> No, OEM Keys are hard coded to system they are distributed with, OEM
>>> versions of Windows do not allow upgrades. Windows Vista retail FPP can
>>> be
>>> transferred according to the license agreement.
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>>> "Brian W" <> wrote in message
>>> news:x_Rhj.14469$...
>>> >I have a generic OEM Vista DVD and product key (System Builder Disc).
>>> >If I
>>> >install Vista without entering the product key, I get the Retail EULA
>>> >shown
>>> >(it states EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_RTL_en-US at the bottom). If I
>>> >use
>>> >the same disc and enter my product key, I get the OEM EULA
>>> >(EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US).
>>> >
>>> > Does this mean that an OEM key can be used on a Retail disc and
>>> > vise-versa? I know with XP, the OEM/Retail keys were specific to the
>>> > media
>>> > and couldn't be swapped.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

"Bruce Chambers" <3t> wrote in message
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> Mick Murphy wrote:
>> "OEM versions of Windows do not allow upgrades!"
>>
>> How did all the people that bought OEM computers pre-installed with XP
>> manage to upgrade to Vista?????
>>
>
>
> What the Andre meant - and what those of us with a modicum of experience
> understood - is that one cannot perform an upgrade using an OEM disk;
> they're specifically designed to perform only clean installations.
> There's nothing to prevent one from upgrading *from* and OEM installation
> of a qualifying OS.

As I've said, one can do an in-place upgrade from XP to Vista using an OEM
product key (a generic system builder key, not one supplied on the side of a
PC from Dell etc). I have done this, and it does work. It acts just like a
Full Retail key.