If I change my mother board and processor, will I still be able to use my
OEM version of Vista?
The reason I ask is because I am being told in this forum/news group that

"Updating the motherboard and processor does not constitute a "new
computer". I can see you haven't read the EULA and are just making it up
as you go along."

when I say that changing the mother board and CPU is a new computer and
would violate the OEM license.

Microsoft does not say what part of a computer defines the computer.
It says nothing about motherboards and cpu defining the computer.

HOWEVER MS has given the freedom to the companies that sell computers
to define what THEY think will be the computer. So where did you buy it
from?

Other than that, just activate by phone and tell them that your motherboard
exploded and you had to replace it
and you are not a tech so you dont know all about that stuff (play it dumb)
I am very sure you will be able to reactivate by phone



"Gary Mount" <> wrote in message
news:C02B4F63-76FC-4620-8EC8-...
> If I change my mother board and processor, will I still be able to use my
> OEM version of Vista?
> The reason I ask is because I am being told in this forum/news group that
>
> "Updating the motherboard and processor does not constitute a "new
> computer". I can see you haven't read the EULA and are just making it up
> as you go along."
>
> when I say that changing the mother board and CPU is a new computer and
> would violate the OEM license.
>
>

I have been doing some searching and found this...

"Microsoft recently made changes to the license agreement. A new motherboard
is now apparently the equal of a new computer, and if you upgrade it you
need to purchase a new Windows license.

Microsoft's new policy states:

An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal
computer" to which Microsoft OEM operating system software cannot be
transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is upgraded or
replaced for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been
created and the license of new operating system software is required.

The reason Microsoft gave for this term is that Microsoft needs to have one
base component "left standing" that would still define that original PC.
Since the motherboard contains the CPU and is the "heart and soul" of the
PC, when the motherboard is replaced (for reasons other than defect) a new
PC is essentially created.

Microsoft has sent a memo to its OEM partners asking them to enforce this
new policy every time they upgrade a computer for a client.
"

"Gary Mount" <> wrote in message
news:C02B4F63-76FC-4620-8EC8-...
> If I change my mother board and processor, will I still be able to use my
> OEM version of Vista?
> The reason I ask is because I am being told in this forum/news group that
>
> "Updating the motherboard and processor does not constitute a "new
> computer". I can see you haven't read the EULA and are just making it up
> as you go along."
>
> when I say that changing the mother board and CPU is a new computer and
> would violate the OEM license.
>
>

I am just researching this topic so I can properly reply to another poster
in this forum/news group.
I have retail versions of Vista on my desktop machines, and a laptop with an
OEM Windows XP Home that won't be getting an O/S upgrade because the
processor sucks (a Intel Celeron).
So I don't have to worry about OEM license restrictions. My next motherboard
upgrade will be when Intel releases their Nehalem architecture late this
year.


"lemorian" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Microsoft does not say what part of a computer defines the computer.
> It says nothing about motherboards and cpu defining the computer.
>
> HOWEVER MS has given the freedom to the companies that sell computers
> to define what THEY think will be the computer. So where did you buy it
> from?
>
> Other than that, just activate by phone and tell them that your
> motherboard exploded and you had to replace it
> and you are not a tech so you dont know all about that stuff (play it
> dumb) I am very sure you will be able to reactivate by phone
>
>
>
> "Gary Mount" <> wrote in message
> news:C02B4F63-76FC-4620-8EC8-...
>> If I change my mother board and processor, will I still be able to use my
>> OEM version of Vista?
>> The reason I ask is because I am being told in this forum/news group that
>>
>> "Updating the motherboard and processor does not constitute a "new
>> computer". I can see you haven't read the EULA and are just making it up
>> as you go along."
>>
>> when I say that changing the mother board and CPU is a new computer and
>> would violate the OEM license.
>>
>>
>

Gary Mount wrote:
> I have been doing some searching and found this...
>
> "Microsoft recently made changes to the license agreement. A new
> motherboard is now apparently the equal of a new computer, and if you
> upgrade it you need to purchase a new Windows license.
>
> Microsoft's new policy states:
>
> An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal
> computer" to which Microsoft OEM operating system software cannot be
> transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is upgraded or
> replaced for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been
> created and the license of new operating system software is required.
>
> The reason Microsoft gave for this term is that Microsoft needs to have
> one base component "left standing" that would still define that original
> PC. Since the motherboard contains the CPU and is the "heart and soul"
> of the PC, when the motherboard is replaced (for reasons other than
> defect) a new PC is essentially created.
>
> Microsoft has sent a memo to its OEM partners asking them to enforce
> this new policy every time they upgrade a computer for a client.

FUD from some blog. Read the EULA. Remember there are two types of OEM,
branded (like from Dell or HP) and generic, you bought it yourself. The
latter is what I was referring to, not the branded OEM. Branded OEM
versions cannot be upgraded except by using hardware approved by the
likes of Dell or HP.

Alias
> "
>
> "Gary Mount" <> wrote in message
> news:C02B4F63-76FC-4620-8EC8-...
>> If I change my mother board and processor, will I still be able to use
>> my OEM version of Vista?
>> The reason I ask is because I am being told in this forum/news group that
>>
>> "Updating the motherboard and processor does not constitute a "new
>> computer". I can see you haven't read the EULA and are just making it up
>> as you go along."
>>
>> when I say that changing the mother board and CPU is a new computer
>> and would violate the OEM license.
>>
>>

"Gary Mount" <>wrote:

> "Microsoft recently made changes to the license agreement. A new
> motherboard is now apparently the equal of a new computer, and if you
> upgrade it you need to purchase a new Windows license."
<snip>

Are there any actual Microsoft sources that confirm this information?

Charlie42

"Gary Mount" <> wrote in message
news:C02B4F63-76FC-4620-8EC8-...
> If I change my mother board and processor, will I still be able to use my
> OEM version of Vista?
> The reason I ask is because I am being told in this forum/news group that
>
> "Updating the motherboard and processor does not constitute a "new
> computer". I can see you haven't read the EULA and are just making it up
> as you go along."
>
> when I say that changing the mother board and CPU is a new computer and
> would violate the OEM license.
>
>


How do you define a new computer?

Saucy

Gary Mount wrote:
> If I change my mother board and processor, will I still be able to use
> my OEM version of Vista?
> The reason I ask is because I am being told in this forum/news group that
>
> "Updating the motherboard and processor does not constitute a "new
> computer". I can see you haven't read the EULA and are just making it up
> as you go along."
>
> when I say that changing the mother board and CPU is a new computer and
> would violate the OEM license.
>
>

Is your OEM copy a branded OEM copy that came preinstalled on a machine
you purchased?

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Gary Mount wrote:
> I have been doing some searching and found this...
>
> "Microsoft recently made changes to the license agreement. A new
> motherboard is now apparently the equal of a new computer, and if you
> upgrade it you need to purchase a new Windows license.
>
> Microsoft's new policy states:
>
> An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal
> computer" to which Microsoft OEM operating system software cannot be
> transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is upgraded or
> replaced for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been
> created and the license of new operating system software is required.
>
> The reason Microsoft gave for this term is that Microsoft needs to have
> one base component "left standing" that would still define that original
> PC. Since the motherboard contains the CPU and is the "heart and soul"
> of the PC, when the motherboard is replaced (for reasons other than
> defect) a new PC is essentially created.
>
> Microsoft has sent a memo to its OEM partners asking them to enforce
> this new policy every time they upgrade a computer for a client.
> "

Hi Gary, do you have a link for this new policy?

>
> "Gary Mount" <> wrote in message
> news:C02B4F63-76FC-4620-8EC8-...
>> If I change my mother board and processor, will I still be able to use
>> my OEM version of Vista?
>> The reason I ask is because I am being told in this forum/news group that
>>
>> "Updating the motherboard and processor does not constitute a "new
>> computer". I can see you haven't read the EULA and are just making it up
>> as you go along."
>>
>> when I say that changing the mother board and CPU is a new computer
>> and would violate the OEM license.
>>
>>


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On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 06:35:24 -0800, "Gary Mount" <>
wrote:

> I have been doing some searching and found this...
>
> "Microsoft recently made changes to the license agreement. A new motherboard
> is now apparently the equal of a new computer, and if you upgrade it you
> need to purchase a new Windows license.
>
> Microsoft's new policy states:


I haven't seem this anywhere. If what you say is true, please post a
link to a Microsoft page that confirms what you say.





> An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal
> computer" to which Microsoft OEM operating system software cannot be
> transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is upgraded or
> replaced for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been
> created and the license of new operating system software is required.
>
> The reason Microsoft gave for this term is that Microsoft needs to have one
> base component "left standing" that would still define that original PC.
> Since the motherboard contains the CPU and is the "heart and soul" of the
> PC, when the motherboard is replaced (for reasons other than defect) a new
> PC is essentially created.
>
> Microsoft has sent a memo to its OEM partners asking them to enforce this
> new policy every time they upgrade a computer for a client.
> "
>
> "Gary Mount" <> wrote in message
> news:C02B4F63-76FC-4620-8EC8-...
> > If I change my mother board and processor, will I still be able to use my
> > OEM version of Vista?
> > The reason I ask is because I am being told in this forum/news group that
> >
> > "Updating the motherboard and processor does not constitute a "new
> > computer". I can see you haven't read the EULA and are just making it up
> > as you go along."
> >
> > when I say that changing the mother board and CPU is a new computer and
> > would violate the OEM license.
> >
> >

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