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Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
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Hello Mojo,
Check this article from Ace about folder redirection and Offline files, maybe it helps you: ================================================== ================================================== == Folder Redirection By Ace Fekay, MCSE, MCT Updated 7/22/08 I believe Folder Redirection with using Offline Files will be the better solution for many environments. I have it implemented in all my customer sites. All data with redirection set, as well as offline files, are cached locally and only synch up at scheduled, manually set times, or when logging on or off. It vastly reduces client to server traffic. Here are some links regarding redirection. Using Folder Redirection for the My Docs, App data, Start Menu and Desktop, a user will get their data no matter where they login. Enabling Offline Files as well, will provide an additional performance increase on the user side, as well as the ability to take machines off-site (such as laptops) and the folks will have their data no matter where they are. However, I usually just implement Folder Redirection with the My Documents folder, and not the others, due to the overhead of data and backup capacities on the server. You know how large the application folder can get, and not always a good choice to implement redirection with. Keep that in mind when you implement this feature. There are a few things that need to be setup in place to make redirection work. If in a mixed Vista/XP environment, as many are going through right now, it may be a little challenging, but they can use the same home folder setting, but the user must stick with one OS or the other, not logon to an XP, then to a Vista, or things may get skewed. 1. The user accounts need to be in the OU the Redirection Policy will apply to. It doesn't matter where the computer accounts are. This is because Redirection is a User based Policy. 2. More than likely, the Redirection policy is probably setup to apply to a group. Therefore, make sure the user account is part of that group. 3. Only the internal DNS servers must show up in a machine's IP properties. 4. They way I setup the shares, is create a root folder called Users. I share it out as Users$ and set share permissions to only System=FC and Domain Admins=FC. 5. Then I would create child folders, one for each user. For example, for a user named Bill, I create a Bill folder, then share it out as Bill$, and set the share permissions to Domain Admins=FC, System=FC, and Bill=FC. The share permissions for the user MUST BE FC or it won't work. Then I set the NTFS permissions (the Security tab), to Domain Admins=FC, System=FC, and Bill=FC. The user MUST have FC for both the share and the NTFS permissions. 6. In the user's AD properties, Profile tab, you want to configure a home folder, and this is assuming you want their stuff redirected to the home folder, such as clicking on G, H, or whatever letter, then configuring something like \\servername\%username%$ (the $ makes it hidden). Whether to hide it or not depends on corporate SOP. The %username% is a variable that will create the folder for you, but I usually do it manually, as in the previous steps. 7. Create the Redirect policy based on the group membership, for example the My Documents folder, should be redirected to \\servername\username$\. You can also create it as \\servername\username$\MyDocuments Documents, which I like because their data goes into a subfolder under the user folder as My Documents. Now many places simply use \\servername\username$ and is easy, and it works. However, with this method, ALL of their documents wind up directly in the root of the home folder. However, this could be a little problematic with Vista. For more info on Vista and XP in a mixed environment, and problems that may occur, read the bottom to articles in the list of links provided below. 8. In the policy, select "Basic - Redirect everyone's folder to the same location. For the target folder location, Redirect to the following location, and it will create a UNC in the form of: \\%HOMESERVER%%HOMEPATH%. Under the settings tab, check the box that says Grant the user exclusive rights to My Docs. Also select to Move the Contents, as well as Leave the Folder in the new location when the policy is removed. 9. I usually create a logon bat script, place it in the NETLOGON share, and specify the script name in thier AD properties, to manually map the same drive letter specified under the Profile tab for the home folder to the home folder, such as with a command line of "net use h: \\servername\username$". It can also be done using VB and a logon script in their GPOs. The script normally does multiple other things as well. I'm just pointing out this portion of it. It is your choice of using VB, CMD or bat files when creating a script. 10. Enable Offline Use for the redirected My Documents. 11. Repeat for the other folders, if you choose to include them. I would set them to use subfolders, such as Application Data, so the data doesn't get intermixed with the My Docs. Links for more information and specifics: Recommendations for Folder Redirection: Group Policy http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc785925.aspx Folder Redirection feature in Windows http://support.microsoft.com/kb/232692 How To Configure Folder Redirection, Aug 22, 2007 ... How to use Group Policy to redirect the "Desktop", "My Documents", "Start Menu" and "Application Data" folders. http://www.msterminalservices.org/ar...direction.html How to Configure Folder Redirection http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc782799.aspx How To Configure Folder Redirection http://www.msterminalservices.org/ar...direction.html User Profiles and Folder Redirection FAQ http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...anage_faq.mspx Enabling the administrator to have access to redirected folders http://support.microsoft.com/kb/288991 Folder Redirection in a mixed environment XP/Vista http://www.gpanswers.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=2257 When you redirect the Documents folder on a Windows Vista-based computer to a network share, the folder name unexpectedly changes back to Documents http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947222/en-us Profile and Folder Redirection In Windows Server 2003 (Explains the differences between a Roaming profile and a non-roaming profile, recommending to not use Roaming Profiles and just use Folder Redirection: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/art...rver-2003.html --- Folder Redirection with Terminal Services: Keep in mind, There's no problem in using TS Roaming Profiles, but if you want users' Documents and Desktops to work, you need to combine the feature with Folder Redirection on all the servers and workstations so all user folders are redirected to the same place. It's recommended to not use Roaming Profiles because of the added complexity. How To Configure Folder RedirectionAug 22, 2007 ... How to use Group Policy to redirect the "Desktop", "My Documents", "Start Menu" and "Application Data" folders. http://www.msterminalservices.org/.....direction.html Terminal Service Administration and Folder RedirectionJun 6, 2006 ... If Remote Desktop for Administration is enabled on a server that's running Windows Server 2003, then the server can not be configured to use ... http://www.msterminalservices.org/.....direction.html Using Folder Redirection with Terminal Server: Terminal ServicesMar 28, 2003 .... Folder Redirection allows users and administrators to redirect the path of a folder to a new location. The new location can be a folder on ... http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...67(WS.10).aspx Best practices for Folder Redirection: Group PolicyJan 21, 2005 ... In general, accept the default Folder Redirection settings. ... Logging off the terminal server causes copying to occur in the opposite ... technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc739647(WS.10).aspx Profile and Folder Redirection In Windows Server 2003Mar 1, 2005 ... For example, if you created a share named PROFILES on a server named TAZ, then the path to Brien's profile ... The actual folder redirection is done through the group policy. ... Terminal Servers · Thin Client Servers ... http://www.windowsnetworking.com/......rver-2003.html Folder Redirection and Terminal Server Users : 1 author 4 posts - Last post: Jun 1, 2004 - Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.group_policyL We currently utilize folder redirection ... http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/21...l-server-users ============================== Ace Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > Hi All > > I know this is probably old hat to you, but I have a Win2003 server to > WinXP Pro SP2/3 clients setup and I've inherited a config whereby the > user's My Docs is redirected from a server location (which is fine for > wired machines) but user's laptops are set for off-line access so that > they can take them home, do work, come back in and sync, etc. > > Now in theory the process seems nice and straightforward, but I can't > believe that this Microsoft default setup of ticking Enable Offline > files just works 100% so I just wanted to know if anybdoy had any > tips/tricks re this process. > > I've noticed that even though I can right-click on any folder in a > user's My Docs and see Make Available Offline, it is disabled so I > can't actually select certain folders to be un-synced. Do you just > have to live with this? > > It would be great to let my users know that they can put any personal > videos, pics, music, etc in a specific My Docs folder knowing full > well their 20GB of crap won't bring my network to a grinding halt, but > the ability to be selective with your folders doesn't seem to be an > option. > > Another thing how come you can change the 'Amount of disk space...' > slider bar to a greater value only to find it goes back to the default > setting anyway - whats the point of that?? > > Is there a defacto size for how big a My Docs folder should be - > overall size and number of files wise?? > > Many thanks for any info you can give. > |
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Mojo
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Thank you
"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news: .com... Hello Mojo, Check this article from Ace about folder redirection and Offline files, maybe it helps you: ================================================== ================================================== == Folder Redirection By Ace Fekay, MCSE, MCT Updated 7/22/08 I believe Folder Redirection with using Offline Files will be the better solution for many environments. I have it implemented in all my customer sites. All data with redirection set, as well as offline files, are cached locally and only synch up at scheduled, manually set times, or when logging on or off. It vastly reduces client to server traffic. Here are some links regarding redirection. Using Folder Redirection for the My Docs, App data, Start Menu and Desktop, a user will get their data no matter where they login. Enabling Offline Files as well, will provide an additional performance increase on the user side, as well as the ability to take machines off-site (such as laptops) and the folks will have their data no matter where they are. However, I usually just implement Folder Redirection with the My Documents folder, and not the others, due to the overhead of data and backup capacities on the server. You know how large the application folder can get, and not always a good choice to implement redirection with. Keep that in mind when you implement this feature. There are a few things that need to be setup in place to make redirection work. If in a mixed Vista/XP environment, as many are going through right now, it may be a little challenging, but they can use the same home folder setting, but the user must stick with one OS or the other, not logon to an XP, then to a Vista, or things may get skewed. 1. The user accounts need to be in the OU the Redirection Policy will apply to. It doesn't matter where the computer accounts are. This is because Redirection is a User based Policy. 2. More than likely, the Redirection policy is probably setup to apply to a group. Therefore, make sure the user account is part of that group. 3. Only the internal DNS servers must show up in a machine's IP properties. 4. They way I setup the shares, is create a root folder called Users. I share it out as Users$ and set share permissions to only System=FC and Domain Admins=FC. 5. Then I would create child folders, one for each user. For example, for a user named Bill, I create a Bill folder, then share it out as Bill$, and set the share permissions to Domain Admins=FC, System=FC, and Bill=FC. The share permissions for the user MUST BE FC or it won't work. Then I set the NTFS permissions (the Security tab), to Domain Admins=FC, System=FC, and Bill=FC. The user MUST have FC for both the share and the NTFS permissions. 6. In the user's AD properties, Profile tab, you want to configure a home folder, and this is assuming you want their stuff redirected to the home folder, such as clicking on G, H, or whatever letter, then configuring something like \\servername\%username%$ (the $ makes it hidden). Whether to hide it or not depends on corporate SOP. The %username% is a variable that will create the folder for you, but I usually do it manually, as in the previous steps. 7. Create the Redirect policy based on the group membership, for example the My Documents folder, should be redirected to \\servername\username$\. You can also create it as \\servername\username$\MyDocuments Documents, which I like because their data goes into a subfolder under the user folder as My Documents. Now many places simply use \\servername\username$ and is easy, and it works. However, with this method, ALL of their documents wind up directly in the root of the home folder. However, this could be a little problematic with Vista. For more info on Vista and XP in a mixed environment, and problems that may occur, read the bottom to articles in the list of links provided below. 8. In the policy, select "Basic - Redirect everyone's folder to the same location. For the target folder location, Redirect to the following location, and it will create a UNC in the form of: \\%HOMESERVER%%HOMEPATH%. Under the settings tab, check the box that says Grant the user exclusive rights to My Docs. Also select to Move the Contents, as well as Leave the Folder in the new location when the policy is removed. 9. I usually create a logon bat script, place it in the NETLOGON share, and specify the script name in thier AD properties, to manually map the same drive letter specified under the Profile tab for the home folder to the home folder, such as with a command line of "net use h: \\servername\username$". It can also be done using VB and a logon script in their GPOs. The script normally does multiple other things as well. I'm just pointing out this portion of it. It is your choice of using VB, CMD or bat files when creating a script. 10. Enable Offline Use for the redirected My Documents. 11. Repeat for the other folders, if you choose to include them. I would set them to use subfolders, such as Application Data, so the data doesn't get intermixed with the My Docs. Links for more information and specifics: Recommendations for Folder Redirection: Group Policy http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc785925.aspx Folder Redirection feature in Windows http://support.microsoft.com/kb/232692 How To Configure Folder Redirection, Aug 22, 2007 ... How to use Group Policy to redirect the "Desktop", "My Documents", "Start Menu" and "Application Data" folders. http://www.msterminalservices.org/ar...direction.html How to Configure Folder Redirection http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc782799.aspx How To Configure Folder Redirection http://www.msterminalservices.org/ar...direction.html User Profiles and Folder Redirection FAQ http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...anage_faq.mspx Enabling the administrator to have access to redirected folders http://support.microsoft.com/kb/288991 Folder Redirection in a mixed environment XP/Vista http://www.gpanswers.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=2257 When you redirect the Documents folder on a Windows Vista-based computer to a network share, the folder name unexpectedly changes back to Documents http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947222/en-us Profile and Folder Redirection In Windows Server 2003 (Explains the differences between a Roaming profile and a non-roaming profile, recommending to not use Roaming Profiles and just use Folder Redirection: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/art...rver-2003.html --- Folder Redirection with Terminal Services: Keep in mind, There's no problem in using TS Roaming Profiles, but if you want users' Documents and Desktops to work, you need to combine the feature with Folder Redirection on all the servers and workstations so all user folders are redirected to the same place. It's recommended to not use Roaming Profiles because of the added complexity. How To Configure Folder RedirectionAug 22, 2007 ... How to use Group Policy to redirect the "Desktop", "My Documents", "Start Menu" and "Application Data" folders. http://www.msterminalservices.org/.....direction.html Terminal Service Administration and Folder RedirectionJun 6, 2006 ... If Remote Desktop for Administration is enabled on a server that's running Windows Server 2003, then the server can not be configured to use ... http://www.msterminalservices.org/.....direction.html Using Folder Redirection with Terminal Server: Terminal ServicesMar 28, 2003 .... Folder Redirection allows users and administrators to redirect the path of a folder to a new location. The new location can be a folder on ... http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...67(WS.10).aspx Best practices for Folder Redirection: Group PolicyJan 21, 2005 ... In general, accept the default Folder Redirection settings. ... Logging off the terminal server causes copying to occur in the opposite ... technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc739647(WS.10).aspx Profile and Folder Redirection In Windows Server 2003Mar 1, 2005 ... For example, if you created a share named PROFILES on a server named TAZ, then the path to Brien's profile ... The actual folder redirection is done through the group policy. ... Terminal Servers · Thin Client Servers ... http://www.windowsnetworking.com/......rver-2003.html Folder Redirection and Terminal Server Users : 1 author 4 posts - Last post: Jun 1, 2004 - Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.group_policyL We currently utilize folder redirection ... http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/21...l-server-users ============================== Ace Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > Hi All > > I know this is probably old hat to you, but I have a Win2003 server to > WinXP Pro SP2/3 clients setup and I've inherited a config whereby the > user's My Docs is redirected from a server location (which is fine for > wired machines) but user's laptops are set for off-line access so that > they can take them home, do work, come back in and sync, etc. > > Now in theory the process seems nice and straightforward, but I can't > believe that this Microsoft default setup of ticking Enable Offline > files just works 100% so I just wanted to know if anybdoy had any > tips/tricks re this process. > > I've noticed that even though I can right-click on any folder in a > user's My Docs and see Make Available Offline, it is disabled so I > can't actually select certain folders to be un-synced. Do you just > have to live with this? > > It would be great to let my users know that they can put any personal > videos, pics, music, etc in a specific My Docs folder knowing full > well their 20GB of crap won't bring my network to a grinding halt, but > the ability to be selective with your folders doesn't seem to be an > option. > > Another thing how come you can change the 'Amount of disk space...' > slider bar to a greater value only to find it goes back to the default > setting anyway - whats the point of that?? > > Is there a defacto size for how big a My Docs folder should be - > overall size and number of files wise?? > > Many thanks for any info you can give. > |
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Ace Fekay [MCT]
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"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
news: .com... Hi Meinolf, I recently updated the article. The changes made start at step 6 (posted below). I added two additional steps as well. I thought to post it to update anyone who has a copy of it! Thanks!! Cheers! Ace -- (Updated 7/30/2009) 6. In the user's AD properties, Profile tab, you want to configure a home folder, and this is assuming you want their stuff redirected to the home folder, such as clicking on G, H, or whatever letter, then configuring something like \\servername\%username%$ (the $ makes it hidden). Whether to hide it or not depends on corporate SOP. The %username% is a variable that will create the folder for you, but I usually do it manually, as in the previous steps. 7. Create an AD group, call it (for example), "My Docs Redirect Group." Create the Redirect policy based on the group membership, for example the My Documents folder, should be redirected to \\servername\username$\. You can also create it as \\servername\username$\MyDocuments Documents, which I like because their data goes into a subfolder under the user folder as My Documents. This require additional testing on your part to make sure the respective data goes into the folders you've specified. However, many installations simply specify the Home folder, \\servername\username$, which is easy, and and it works well. I've been using this method myself (outlined in the next step), however, with this method, ALL of their documents wind up directly in the root of the home folder. However, this could be a little problematic with Vista. For more info on Vista and XP in a mixed environment, and problems that may occur, please read the links at the bottom of this article that will provide additional information on how to handle this issue. 8. In the My Documents policy setting, select "Advanced - Specify Location based on various User Groups. Add the AD group you just created. For the target folder location, Redirect to the Home Folder. After you click OK, it will display a UNC in the form of: \\%HOMESERVER%%HOMEPATH%. Under the settings tab, check the box that says Grant the user exclusive rights to My Docs. Also select to Move the Contents, as well as Leave the Folder in the new location when the policy is removed. 9. I usually create a logon bat script, place it in the NETLOGON share, and specify the script name in thier AD properties, to manually map the same drive letter specified under the Profile tab for the home folder to the home folder, such as with a command line of "net use h: \\servername\username$". It can also be done using VB and a logon script in their GPOs. The script normally does multiple other things as well. I'm just pointing out this portion of it. It is your choice of using VB, CMD or bat files when creating a script. 10. Enable Offline Use for the redirected My Documents. 11. Repeat for the other folders, if you choose to include them. I would set them to use subfolders, such as Application Data, so the data doesn't get intermixed with the My Docs. 12. Link the GPO to the OU you want it to apply to. Keep in mind, it will not work until you add the users that you want it to apply to, to the My Docs Redirect Group, that you've created. 13. If you ever need to move the Users folder location to a new server, simply mirror the shared folders and permissions from the old server on the new server drive (no need to copy the data), and change the policy to point to the new UNC. Next time the user logs on, the data will be moved automatically. The larger the amount of data, the longer it will take. For example, one customer had a 10 GB home folder. It took about 20 minutes to move, however the user was able to work. Some of the files weren't available immediately, but they eventually showed up. -- Ace This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and confers no rights. Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum to benefit from collaboration among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your resolution. Ace Fekay, MCT, MCTS Exchange, MCSE, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSA Messaging Microsoft Certified Trainer http://twitter.com/acefekay For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers. |
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Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
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Hello Ace Fekay [MCT],
Thanks for that. Will update:-) Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message > news: .com... > > Hi Meinolf, > > I recently updated the article. The changes made start at step 6 > (posted below). I added two additional steps as well. I thought to > post it to update anyone who has a copy of it! > > Thanks!! > > Cheers! > > Ace > > -- > (Updated 7/30/2009) > 6. In the user's AD properties, Profile tab, you want to configure a > home folder, and this is assuming you want their stuff redirected to > the home folder, such as clicking on G, H, or whatever letter, then > configuring something like \\servername\%username%$ (the $ makes it > hidden). Whether to hide it or not depends on corporate SOP. The > %username% is a variable that will create the folder for you, but I > usually do it manually, as in the previous steps. > > 7. Create an AD group, call it (for example), "My Docs Redirect > Group." Create the Redirect policy based on the group membership, for > example the My Documents folder, should be redirected to > \\servername\username$\. You can also create it as > \\servername\username$\MyDocuments Documents, which I like because > their data goes into a subfolder under the user folder as My > Documents. This require additional testing on your part to make sure > the respective data goes into the folders you've specified. However, > many installations simply specify the Home folder, > \\servername\username$, which is easy, and and it works well. I've > been using this method myself (outlined in the next step), however, > with this method, ALL of their documents wind up directly in the root > of the home folder. However, this could be a little problematic with > Vista. For more info on Vista and XP in a mixed environment, and > problems that may occur, please read the links at the bottom of this > article that will provide additional information on how to handle this > issue. > > 8. In the My Documents policy setting, select "Advanced - Specify > Location based on various User Groups. Add the AD group you just > created. For the target folder location, Redirect to the Home Folder. > After you click OK, it will display a UNC in the form of: > \\%HOMESERVER%%HOMEPATH%. Under the settings tab, check the box that > says Grant the user exclusive rights to My Docs. Also select to Move > the Contents, as well as Leave the Folder in the new location when the > policy is removed. > > 9. I usually create a logon bat script, place it in the NETLOGON > share, and specify the script name in thier AD properties, to manually > map the same drive letter specified under the Profile tab for the home > folder to the home folder, such as with a command line of "net use h: > \\servername\username$". It can also be done using VB and a logon > script in their GPOs. The script normally does multiple other things > as well. I'm just pointing out this portion of it. It is your choice > of using VB, CMD or bat files when creating a script. > > 10. Enable Offline Use for the redirected My Documents. > > 11. Repeat for the other folders, if you choose to include them. I > would set them to use subfolders, such as Application Data, so the > data doesn't get intermixed with the My Docs. > > 12. Link the GPO to the OU you want it to apply to. Keep in mind, it > will not work until you add the users that you want it to apply to, to > the My Docs Redirect Group, that you've created. > > 13. If you ever need to move the Users folder location to a new > server, simply mirror the shared folders and permissions from the old > server on the new server drive (no need to copy the data), and change > the policy to point to the new UNC. Next time the user logs on, the > data will be moved automatically. The larger the amount of data, the > longer it will take. For example, one customer had a 10 GB home > folder. It took about 20 minutes to move, however the user was able to > work. Some of the files weren't available immediately, but they > eventually showed up. > > This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and > confers no rights. > > Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum to benefit from > collaboration among responding engineers, and to help others benefit > from your resolution. > > Ace Fekay, MCT, MCTS Exchange, MCSE, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSA Messaging > Microsoft Certified Trainer > > http://twitter.com/acefekay > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly. > Please check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone > numbers. > |
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