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      09-01-2007
The One Care defrag never completes the defrag. it says that the C drive is
too fragmented and has been marked for defragmenting later, but never
completes it and gives the same message....

Why is that?, how can I set the defragmenting tool to finish no matter what?

Thanks,
mac

 
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Greg
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      09-01-2007
I experianced the same problem; my solution was to UNINSTALL onecare,
REBOOT, perform system maintenance, then REINSTALL onecare.

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> The One Care defrag never completes the defrag. it says that the C drive
> is too fragmented and has been marked for defragmenting later, but never
> completes it and gives the same message....
>
> Why is that?, how can I set the defragmenting tool to finish no matter
> what?
>
> Thanks,
> mac


 
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John Rushton
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      09-01-2007
Why not just do it manually from the system management tools then when one
care does it's defrag there wouldn't be so much for it to do??

It's just running out of time to finish the job.

"Greg" <> wrote in message
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>I experianced the same problem; my solution was to UNINSTALL onecare,
>REBOOT, perform system maintenance, then REINSTALL onecare.
>
> "Mac" <> wrote in message
> news:59831BBC-2FBB-4363-A45A-...
>> The One Care defrag never completes the defrag. it says that the C drive
>> is too fragmented and has been marked for defragmenting later, but never
>> completes it and gives the same message....
>>
>> Why is that?, how can I set the defragmenting tool to finish no matter
>> what?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> mac

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Benjamin
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      09-03-2007

Or just use a dedicated third party defrag tool. There are many in the
market. Personally, I use Diskeeper and it allows me to autodefrag,
schedule a defrag or manually defrag as I like. Better control and
performance than the windows defraggers. It starts when I want it to,
and stops when I want it to!


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Hank Arnold (MVP)
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      09-03-2007
Benjamin wrote:
> Or just use a dedicated third party defrag tool. There are many in the
> market. Personally, I use Diskeeper and it allows me to autodefrag,
> schedule a defrag or manually defrag as I like. Better control and
> performance than the windows defraggers. It starts when I want it to,
> and stops when I want it to!
>
>


I agree about DiskKeeper. I used it a long time ago (V8?) and it was
great. The automatic defrag, though, was a drag on the system
performance whenever it kicked off ( I did have it set to minimize the
impact). I just installed 2007 (NSF License for MVP's) a couple of weeks
ago and they seem to have solved that problem. The interface is very
smartly done.... It's a "keeper".... ;-)

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StephenB
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      09-03-2007
"Mac" <> wrote:

>The One Care defrag never completes the defrag. it says that the C drive is
>too fragmented and has been marked for defragmenting later, but never
>completes it and gives the same message....
>
>Why is that?, how can I set the defragmenting tool to finish no matter what?
>
>Thanks,
>mac

The Defrag is OneCare is timed. It will stop after time is up and run again the
next time a Tune-up is performed. If you have lots of fragmented files on a
large drive, it will likely never "complete" under OneCare if you only do
Tune-up monthly, so running Defrag manually or using a 3rd party program will do
better. Don't worry about the message from OneCare in the Tune-up report about
Defrag in any event.
-steve
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Communikator
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      09-04-2007
Well, the Vista system's drive IS too fragmented, indeed, even after the
(defragmentation ???) that runs in the background. Take a look at it with
some visually descriptive defrag tool, just after a scheduled
defragmentation has been finished.
I see no use for the automatic Vista defragger other than making me buy new
hdd's, because my current ones are being abused by this service, above all
without letting me know what's going on, visually, during the background
defragmentation.

 
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Benjamin
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      09-05-2007

The automatic defragger in Vista may be badly implemented. Perhaps MS
did not do a good job of balancing the end result (performance) and the
automatic nature of the defragger; perhaps SP1 will fix some of these
issues.

Whichever way you look at it, automatic is the way to go for the future
- -if- well implemented, since it removes the need for human
intervention and reduces workload.

Rather than manually scheduling, executing and checking the results of
a defrag after the workday or a weekend, let the software (defrag in
this case, but could be anything) run and manage things automatically.
All this is contingent upon the fact that the software works as
advertised and does not crash in the middle of something important lol.


Automatic, self managing software would be good, especially as the
number of installed systems increases.


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      10-04-2007
Communikator wrote:
> Well, the Vista system's drive IS too fragmented, indeed, even after the
> (defragmentation ???) that runs in the background. Take a look at it
> with some visually descriptive defrag tool, just after a scheduled
> defragmentation has been finished.
> I see no use for the automatic Vista defragger other than making me buy
> new hdd's, because my current ones are being abused by this service,
> above all without letting me know what's going on, visually, during the
> background defragmentation.



C,

I thought that the defrag tool that comes with Vista will defragment
files but not defrag free space. That is why a visually descriptive
tool reports the drive as still being fragmented becuase it has the
ability to defrag more of the drive then Vista. Some of them defrag the
MBR, Swap file, and Partition data.
 
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