One Year Later

This lovely OS called Vista just crashed while running Photoshop taking down
a complex image before I could save the file, having just finished the
complex layer adjustment.
Why I booted into Vista I have no idea: masochism I suppose. I see by time
stamps it had been about a month since I last booted into Vista on this dual
boot machine. I guess I never give up hope.
Despite SP1 Vista remains a slow, unstable, unreliable, incompatible piece
of crud unlike anything ever foisted on the public.
Microsoft sales figures for this turkey for the most part represent
individual purchasers, most of whom have no choice about OS. Few businesses
will touch Vista until absolutely forced to.
Given the nature of business software and networking there is no reason at
all to adapt Vista and uncountable reasons not to.
Vista is the biggest mistake Bill Gates ever made. He gets to retire with
the computer version of an Edsel as his legacy.

"iacy" <> wrote in message
news:B500E3DB-39BD-40F9-AF95-...
> This lovely OS called Vista just crashed while running Photoshop taking
> down a complex image before I could save the file, having just finished
> the complex layer adjustment.
> Why I booted into Vista I have no idea: masochism I suppose. I see by time
> stamps it had been about a month since I last booted into Vista on this
> dual boot machine. I guess I never give up hope.
> Despite SP1 Vista remains a slow, unstable, unreliable, incompatible piece
> of crud unlike anything ever foisted on the public.
> Microsoft sales figures for this turkey for the most part represent
> individual purchasers, most of whom have no choice about OS. Few
> businesses will touch Vista until absolutely forced to.
> Given the nature of business software and networking there is no reason at
> all to adapt Vista and uncountable reasons not to.
> Vista is the biggest mistake Bill Gates ever made. He gets to retire with
> the computer version of an Edsel as his legacy.
>
>


And you get to rant in a newsgroup...who cares !

Individual purchasers DO have a choice , loonie.
Try an english comprehension course.

Wasn't it really Photoshop that crashed? Just re-enter the program and it
will recover its own file. It is not a pirated version of PS is it. What
version? Frankly, you don't seem the type too keen on paying for software so
it's probably pirated.

Your information about most users and businesses comes from where? Doesn't
matter, it's inaccurate.

Dual boot. Pfft! Too bad it doesn't work. Sucks to be you.


"Lunacy" <> wrote in message
news:B500E3DB-39BD-40F9-AF95-...
> This lovely OS called Vista just crashed while running Photoshop taking
> down a complex image before I could save the file, having just finished
> the complex layer adjustment.
> Why I booted into Vista I have no idea: masochism I suppose. I see by time
> stamps it had been about a month since I last booted into Vista on this
> dual boot machine. I guess I never give up hope.
> Despite SP1 Vista remains a slow, unstable, unreliable, incompatible piece
> of crud unlike anything ever foisted on the public.
> Microsoft sales figures for this turkey for the most part represent
> individual purchasers, most of whom have no choice about OS. Few
> businesses will touch Vista until absolutely forced to.
> Given the nature of business software and networking there is no reason at
> all to adapt Vista and uncountable reasons not to.
> Vista is the biggest mistake Bill Gates ever made. He gets to retire with
> the computer version of an Edsel as his legacy.
>
>

So it's a crash in Photoshop: are you getting any crashes in Windows /
Microsoft components?

What are your specific failure points as regards SP1?

As regards the Photoshop crash, what's the data for the crash according to
the Problem Reports and Solutions Center control panel under "View Update
History"? Have you checked with Adobe yet about this crash?

--
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See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--

"iacy" <> wrote in message
news:B500E3DB-39BD-40F9-AF95-...
> This lovely OS called Vista just crashed while running Photoshop taking
> down a complex image before I could save the file, having just finished
> the complex layer adjustment.
> Why I booted into Vista I have no idea: masochism I suppose. I see by time
> stamps it had been about a month since I last booted into Vista on this
> dual boot machine. I guess I never give up hope.
> Despite SP1 Vista remains a slow, unstable, unreliable, incompatible piece
> of crud unlike anything ever foisted on the public.
> Microsoft sales figures for this turkey for the most part represent
> individual purchasers, most of whom have no choice about OS. Few
> businesses will touch Vista until absolutely forced to.
> Given the nature of business software and networking there is no reason at
> all to adapt Vista and uncountable reasons not to.
> Vista is the biggest mistake Bill Gates ever made. He gets to retire with
> the computer version of an Edsel as his legacy.
>
>

Don't try to make vista look too good... PLEASE..

you have noe insulted it strongly enough!!! ..

its not "crud" rather its CRAP with all caps please!

It was not "foisted" rather it was "deployed" like a mass destruction
weapon...

But even if you insult vista, its not enough, you must insult the stupid
supporters that actually LIKE it
and spread hideus propaganda.. so...

Reapeat after me " VISTA IS STUPID and VISTA LUVRS MORE STUPID"

Now tell this to everyone you know, and tell them to tell everyone they know
to avoid this vista disaster


thanks




"iacy" <> wrote in message
news:B500E3DB-39BD-40F9-AF95-...
> This lovely OS called Vista just crashed while running Photoshop taking
> down a complex image before I could save the file, having just finished
> the complex layer adjustment.
> Why I booted into Vista I have no idea: masochism I suppose. I see by time
> stamps it had been about a month since I last booted into Vista on this
> dual boot machine. I guess I never give up hope.
> Despite SP1 Vista remains a slow, unstable, unreliable, incompatible piece
> of crud unlike anything ever foisted on the public.
> Microsoft sales figures for this turkey for the most part represent
> individual purchasers, most of whom have no choice about OS. Few
> businesses will touch Vista until absolutely forced to.
> Given the nature of business software and networking there is no reason at
> all to adapt Vista and uncountable reasons not to.
> Vista is the biggest mistake Bill Gates ever made. He gets to retire with
> the computer version of an Edsel as his legacy.
>
>

>What are your specific failure points as regards SP1?

Can I answer please? can I? can I? can I?

SP1 doesnt and will never fix SH1T on vista, because vista is BEYOND any
REPAIR!

what it would need would be a redesign from ground up.. but guess what? they
are doing that for windows 7!

why give a SP2 for free as a complete rewrite of Crapista (vista) when you
can SELL windows 7 and get money for fixing
a horrible OS like vista?





"zachd [MSFT]" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> So it's a crash in Photoshop: are you getting any crashes in Windows /
> Microsoft components?
>
> What are your specific failure points as regards SP1?
>
> As regards the Photoshop crash, what's the data for the crash according to
> the Problem Reports and Solutions Center control panel under "View Update
> History"? Have you checked with Adobe yet about this crash?
>
> --
> Speaking for myself only.
> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> --
>
> "iacy" <> wrote in message
> news:B500E3DB-39BD-40F9-AF95-...
>> This lovely OS called Vista just crashed while running Photoshop taking
>> down a complex image before I could save the file, having just finished
>> the complex layer adjustment.
>> Why I booted into Vista I have no idea: masochism I suppose. I see by
>> time stamps it had been about a month since I last booted into Vista on
>> this dual boot machine. I guess I never give up hope.
>> Despite SP1 Vista remains a slow, unstable, unreliable, incompatible
>> piece of crud unlike anything ever foisted on the public.
>> Microsoft sales figures for this turkey for the most part represent
>> individual purchasers, most of whom have no choice about OS. Few
>> businesses will touch Vista until absolutely forced to.
>> Given the nature of business software and networking there is no reason
>> at all to adapt Vista and uncountable reasons not to.
>> Vista is the biggest mistake Bill Gates ever made. He gets to retire with
>> the computer version of an Edsel as his legacy.
>>
>>
>
>

PS. you have the nerve coming in here with MSFT in your nick..???

Do you know how dangerous that is? There is a reason MSFT does not come in
here openly...!

you know that there are angry people that would love to lynch anyone that
was part of Vista?

Take my advice, loose the MSFT and when asked what you do, say you are a
farmer.

It might not be your fault for vistas crapicity, but hey people want to vent
on the first chance they get.

Or you can use the MSFT ego boosting thingy, but go to other newsgroups that
have MSFT products that are not
a CRIME TO HUMANITY (like vista is)!



"zachd [MSFT]" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> So it's a crash in Photoshop: are you getting any crashes in Windows /
> Microsoft components?
>
> What are your specific failure points as regards SP1?
>
> As regards the Photoshop crash, what's the data for the crash according to
> the Problem Reports and Solutions Center control panel under "View Update
> History"? Have you checked with Adobe yet about this crash?
>
> --
> Speaking for myself only.
> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> --
>
> "iacy" <> wrote in message
> news:B500E3DB-39BD-40F9-AF95-...
>> This lovely OS called Vista just crashed while running Photoshop taking
>> down a complex image before I could save the file, having just finished
>> the complex layer adjustment.
>> Why I booted into Vista I have no idea: masochism I suppose. I see by
>> time stamps it had been about a month since I last booted into Vista on
>> this dual boot machine. I guess I never give up hope.
>> Despite SP1 Vista remains a slow, unstable, unreliable, incompatible
>> piece of crud unlike anything ever foisted on the public.
>> Microsoft sales figures for this turkey for the most part represent
>> individual purchasers, most of whom have no choice about OS. Few
>> businesses will touch Vista until absolutely forced to.
>> Given the nature of business software and networking there is no reason
>> at all to adapt Vista and uncountable reasons not to.
>> Vista is the biggest mistake Bill Gates ever made. He gets to retire with
>> the computer version of an Edsel as his legacy.
>>
>>
>
>

That's not the point of Windows 7 as I understand it, but perhaps you talk
to my development managers more than I do. =)

It's clearly not possible to please everybody all the time. If you're
interested in me trying to potentially help improve things for your
experience, providing specifics makes that possible. If you simply wanted
to vent spleen, that's fine, but bear in mind that limitation of the
discussion (avoiding specific problems) does make it impossible to more
directly address your pain points.

There are a variety of pain points addressed with SP1. If you're using
Vista, it would be doubtful that you would not benefit from those updates.
I'm not suggesting that you have Vista SP1 over for a romantic dinner and
fall in love and have tiny computer babies, just that it's meant to and does
address a set of user problems. Whether or not that pleases you is up to
you, but constructive feedback is the best way to actually improve things
going forward. =)

Best regards,
-Zach
Senior Developer, Windows Experience team
--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--

"Joe cann" <> wrote in message
news:479d261a$...
> >What are your specific failure points as regards SP1?
>
> Can I answer please? can I? can I? can I?
>
> SP1 doesnt and will never fix SH1T on vista, because vista is BEYOND any
> REPAIR!
>
> what it would need would be a redesign from ground up.. but guess what?
> they are doing that for windows 7!
>
> why give a SP2 for free as a complete rewrite of Crapista (vista) when you
> can SELL windows 7 and get money for fixing
> a horrible OS like vista?
>
>
>
>
>
> "zachd [MSFT]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> So it's a crash in Photoshop: are you getting any crashes in Windows /
>> Microsoft components?
>>
>> What are your specific failure points as regards SP1?
>>
>> As regards the Photoshop crash, what's the data for the crash according
>> to the Problem Reports and Solutions Center control panel under "View
>> Update History"? Have you checked with Adobe yet about this crash?
>>
>> --
>> Speaking for myself only.
>> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>> --
>>
>> "iacy" <> wrote in message
>> news:B500E3DB-39BD-40F9-AF95-...
>>> This lovely OS called Vista just crashed while running Photoshop taking
>>> down a complex image before I could save the file, having just finished
>>> the complex layer adjustment.
>>> Why I booted into Vista I have no idea: masochism I suppose. I see by
>>> time stamps it had been about a month since I last booted into Vista on
>>> this dual boot machine. I guess I never give up hope.
>>> Despite SP1 Vista remains a slow, unstable, unreliable, incompatible
>>> piece of crud unlike anything ever foisted on the public.
>>> Microsoft sales figures for this turkey for the most part represent
>>> individual purchasers, most of whom have no choice about OS. Few
>>> businesses will touch Vista until absolutely forced to.
>>> Given the nature of business software and networking there is no reason
>>> at all to adapt Vista and uncountable reasons not to.
>>> Vista is the biggest mistake Bill Gates ever made. He gets to retire
>>> with the computer version of an Edsel as his legacy.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

"Joe cann" <> wrote in message
news:479d2789$...
> PS. you have the nerve coming in here with MSFT in your nick..???
>
> Do you know how dangerous that is? There is a reason MSFT does not come in
> here openly...!
>
> you know that there are angry people that would love to lynch anyone that
> was part of Vista?
>
> Take my advice, loose the MSFT and when asked what you do, say you are a
> farmer.
>
> It might not be your fault for vistas crapicity, but hey people want to
> vent on the first chance they get.
>
> Or you can use the MSFT ego boosting thingy, but go to other newsgroups
> that have MSFT products that are not
> a CRIME TO HUMANITY (like vista is)!
>
>

Awww...did you crash the Bozo Bin again...got a booboo

No Sir its a well know FACT that the guys behind Vista are ARROGANT
and DO NOT LISTEN to feedback...

THIS IS MY FEEDBACK> A hideous stream of insults! I will not go into tedious
details..
The details are OUT THERE, you only have to open your eyes and minds!

Perhaps some CRAP throwing and humiliation would do you guys some good
since you are NOT FIT FOR THE JOBS!

Either produce a product that WORKS or ship out, and let other more talented
people who are ready to SERVE the needs of the users better!

That's what you can tell your "development managers" who should be tarred
and feathered for even considering to release a FAULTY and horrible OS like
Vista

Thank you for reading.


"zachd [MSFT]" <> wrote in message
news:eD$...
>
> That's not the point of Windows 7 as I understand it, but perhaps you talk
> to my development managers more than I do. =)
>
> It's clearly not possible to please everybody all the time. If you're
> interested in me trying to potentially help improve things for your
> experience, providing specifics makes that possible. If you simply wanted
> to vent spleen, that's fine, but bear in mind that limitation of the
> discussion (avoiding specific problems) does make it impossible to more
> directly address your pain points.
>
> There are a variety of pain points addressed with SP1. If you're using
> Vista, it would be doubtful that you would not benefit from those updates.
> I'm not suggesting that you have Vista SP1 over for a romantic dinner and
> fall in love and have tiny computer babies, just that it's meant to and
> does address a set of user problems. Whether or not that pleases you is
> up to you, but constructive feedback is the best way to actually improve
> things going forward. =)
>
> Best regards,
> -Zach
> Senior Developer, Windows Experience team
> --
> Speaking for myself only.
> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> --
>
> "Joe cann" <> wrote in message
> news:479d261a$...
>> >What are your specific failure points as regards SP1?
>>
>> Can I answer please? can I? can I? can I?
>>
>> SP1 doesnt and will never fix SH1T on vista, because vista is BEYOND any
>> REPAIR!
>>
>> what it would need would be a redesign from ground up.. but guess what?
>> they are doing that for windows 7!
>>
>> why give a SP2 for free as a complete rewrite of Crapista (vista) when
>> you can SELL windows 7 and get money for fixing
>> a horrible OS like vista?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "zachd [MSFT]" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>>
>>> So it's a crash in Photoshop: are you getting any crashes in Windows /
>>> Microsoft components?
>>>
>>> What are your specific failure points as regards SP1?
>>>
>>> As regards the Photoshop crash, what's the data for the crash according
>>> to the Problem Reports and Solutions Center control panel under "View
>>> Update History"? Have you checked with Adobe yet about this crash?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Speaking for myself only.
>>> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>>> rights.
>>> --
>>>
>>> "iacy" <> wrote in message
>>> news:B500E3DB-39BD-40F9-AF95-...
>>>> This lovely OS called Vista just crashed while running Photoshop taking
>>>> down a complex image before I could save the file, having just finished
>>>> the complex layer adjustment.
>>>> Why I booted into Vista I have no idea: masochism I suppose. I see by
>>>> time stamps it had been about a month since I last booted into Vista on
>>>> this dual boot machine. I guess I never give up hope.
>>>> Despite SP1 Vista remains a slow, unstable, unreliable, incompatible
>>>> piece of crud unlike anything ever foisted on the public.
>>>> Microsoft sales figures for this turkey for the most part represent
>>>> individual purchasers, most of whom have no choice about OS. Few
>>>> businesses will touch Vista until absolutely forced to.
>>>> Given the nature of business software and networking there is no reason
>>>> at all to adapt Vista and uncountable reasons not to.
>>>> Vista is the biggest mistake Bill Gates ever made. He gets to retire
>>>> with the computer version of an Edsel as his legacy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>