Open IE7 is slow

Why is it when I open up IE7 it takes so long for it to find proxy
settings... Dont know if it on my end or what.....

Hi,
From the Release Notes at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/ie/releasenotes/default.aspx

Proxy Connectivity - If you notice slowness or a problem connecting to web
sites after upgrading to Internet Explorer 7 Beta, it may be due to Proxy
Auto Detection problems.
* Launch the Internet Control Panel by clicking "Internet Options" From the
Internet Explorer Tools menu.
* Navigate to the Connections tab
* Under Local Area Networks (LAN) settings choose LAN Settings
* Uncheck "Automatically detect settings" in the Local Area Network (LAN)
Settings dialog,
* Check "Use a proxy server for your LAN" and specify your proxy server in
the Local Area Network (LAN) Settings dialog,
* Click OK, OK

(Check with your iSP regarding proxy settings.)

Hope this helps,
Don
[MS MVP- IE]

"Mike M" <MikeM[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B3B1F3FB-5DFA-4C9A-A441-...
> Why is it when I open up IE7 it takes so long for it to find proxy
> settings... Dont know if it on my end or what.....

> * Check "Use a proxy server for your LAN" and specify your proxy server in
> the Local Area Network (LAN) Settings dialog,
> * Click OK, OK
>
> (Check with your iSP regarding proxy settings.)
>
> Hope this helps,
> Don

No, Don, it doesn't help. It breaks the whole purpose of having
auto-detection. If one does this, unplugs one's laptop from the work network
and goes home, you can't browse the net because it can't see the proxy.
Auto-detection exists for a good reason.

I can understand that for many people who have it turned on and don't need
it, the "turn it off" solution solves the problem. But it still doesn't fix
the "proxy auto-detection takes far too long" problem. It just hides it for
people who don't need it.

In general I find software copes with laptops poorly. IE is an example but
it's not on its own - not at all - probably because so many applications use
IE as their HTTP engine. Skype is another example. Just moving from work to
home, which results in an IP address change, does necessarily guarantee you
that IE will notice the IP change or realise the proxy has gone and try
auto-detect again. It just fails to let you see the world. Skype is worse,
once it loses the connection because of that, I have to close it and rerun
it to make it reconnect - even on the original connection.

Kevin.

It appears that IE7 is just slow. My home page takes forever to open. I was
having no problem with IE6, home page opened in a flash but like an idoit
thought I would upgrade to IE7. Does anyone have a clue?

Kramer

"Kevin Lentin" wrote:

> > * Check "Use a proxy server for your LAN" and specify your proxy server in
> > the Local Area Network (LAN) Settings dialog,
> > * Click OK, OK

I'll be honest, I've never needed autodetect, and I use, at last count, four
different networks.

And yes, I am using a laptop.. kind of old, actually... not even cutting
edge in terms of muscle.

Now, did you *try* the fix?

--

Sandi Hardmeier
Microsoft MVP since 1999
http://www.ie-vista.com
Internet Explorer Community
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...y/default.mspx



> No, Don, it doesn't help. It breaks the whole purpose of having
> auto-detection. If one does this, unplugs one's laptop from the work
> network and goes home, you can't browse the net because it can't see the
> proxy. Auto-detection exists for a good reason.
>
> I can understand that for many people who have it turned on and don't need
> it, the "turn it off" solution solves the problem. But it still doesn't
> fix the "proxy auto-detection takes far too long" problem. It just hides
> it for people who don't need it.
>
> In general I find software copes with laptops poorly. IE is an example but
> it's not on its own - not at all - probably because so many applications
> use IE as their HTTP engine. Skype is another example. Just moving from
> work to home, which results in an IP address change, does necessarily
> guarantee you that IE will notice the IP change or realise the proxy has
> gone and try auto-detect again. It just fails to let you see the world.
> Skype is worse, once it loses the connection because of that, I have to
> close it and rerun it to make it reconnect - even on the original
> connection.
>
> Kevin.
>

Sandi,

Can you explain how it works then? If you turn auto-detection off, how does
IE7 find the proxy? Or does it go doing WPAD anyway, even though you've
turned off the setting?

Kevin.


"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" <> wrote in message
news:...
> I'll be honest, I've never needed autodetect, and I use, at last count,
> four different networks.
>
> And yes, I am using a laptop.. kind of old, actually... not even cutting
> edge in terms of muscle.
>
> Now, did you *try* the fix?
>
> --
>
> Sandi Hardmeier
> Microsoft MVP since 1999
> http://www.ie-vista.com
> Internet Explorer Community
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...y/default.mspx
>
>
>
>> No, Don, it doesn't help. It breaks the whole purpose of having
>> auto-detection. If one does this, unplugs one's laptop from the work
>> network and goes home, you can't browse the net because it can't see the
>> proxy. Auto-detection exists for a good reason.
>>
>> I can understand that for many people who have it turned on and don't
>> need it, the "turn it off" solution solves the problem. But it still
>> doesn't fix the "proxy auto-detection takes far too long" problem. It
>> just hides it for people who don't need it.
>>
>> In general I find software copes with laptops poorly. IE is an example
>> but it's not on its own - not at all - probably because so many
>> applications use IE as their HTTP engine. Skype is another example. Just
>> moving from work to home, which results in an IP address change, does
>> necessarily guarantee you that IE will notice the IP change or realise
>> the proxy has gone and try auto-detect again. It just fails to let you
>> see the world. Skype is worse, once it loses the connection because of
>> that, I have to close it and rerun it to make it reconnect - even on the
>> original connection.
>>
>> Kevin.
>>
>
>

To be honest, I can't explain it properly to myself If an ISP does not
specifically tell you to enter proxy settings in the connectoid, then I find
that autodetect is simply not required... all such directioning is
invariably managed by the server, not the client.

--

Sandi Hardmeier
Microsoft MVP since 1999
http://www.ie-vista.com
Internet Explorer Community
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...y/default.mspx
The email address I use for newsgroups is a spam trap and does not get read.

"Kevin Lentin" <> wrote in message
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> Sandi,
>
> Can you explain how it works then? If you turn auto-detection off, how
> does IE7 find the proxy? Or does it go doing WPAD anyway, even though
> you've turned off the setting?
>
> Kevin.
>
>
> "Sandi - Microsoft MVP" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> I'll be honest, I've never needed autodetect, and I use, at last count,
>> four different networks.
>>
>> And yes, I am using a laptop.. kind of old, actually... not even cutting
>> edge in terms of muscle.
>>
>> Now, did you *try* the fix?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Sandi Hardmeier
>> Microsoft MVP since 1999
>> http://www.ie-vista.com
>> Internet Explorer Community
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...y/default.mspx
>>
>>
>>
>>> No, Don, it doesn't help. It breaks the whole purpose of having
>>> auto-detection. If one does this, unplugs one's laptop from the work
>>> network and goes home, you can't browse the net because it can't see the
>>> proxy. Auto-detection exists for a good reason.
>>>
>>> I can understand that for many people who have it turned on and don't
>>> need it, the "turn it off" solution solves the problem. But it still
>>> doesn't fix the "proxy auto-detection takes far too long" problem. It
>>> just hides it for people who don't need it.
>>>
>>> In general I find software copes with laptops poorly. IE is an example
>>> but it's not on its own - not at all - probably because so many
>>> applications use IE as their HTTP engine. Skype is another example. Just
>>> moving from work to home, which results in an IP address change, does
>>> necessarily guarantee you that IE will notice the IP change or realise
>>> the proxy has gone and try auto-detect again. It just fails to let you
>>> see the world. Skype is worse, once it loses the connection because of
>>> that, I have to close it and rerun it to make it reconnect - even on the
>>> original connection.
>>>
>>> Kevin.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

I tried unchecking auto detect settings and it works better! Go figure!

Kramer

"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote:

> To be honest, I can't explain it properly to myself If an ISP does not
> specifically tell you to enter proxy settings in the connectoid, then I find
> that autodetect is simply not required... all such directioning is
> invariably managed by the server, not the client.
>
> --
>
> Sandi Hardmeier
> Microsoft MVP since 1999
> http://www.ie-vista.com
> Internet Explorer Community
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...y/default.mspx
> The email address I use for newsgroups is a spam trap and does not get read.
>
> "Kevin Lentin" <> wrote in message
> news:ea12fa$psr$...
> > Sandi,
> >
> > Can you explain how it works then? If you turn auto-detection off, how
> > does IE7 find the proxy? Or does it go doing WPAD anyway, even though
> > you've turned off the setting?
> >
> > Kevin.
> >
> >
> > "Sandi - Microsoft MVP" <> wrote in message
> > news:...
> >> I'll be honest, I've never needed autodetect, and I use, at last count,
> >> four different networks.
> >>
> >> And yes, I am using a laptop.. kind of old, actually... not even cutting
> >> edge in terms of muscle.
> >>
> >> Now, did you *try* the fix?
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Sandi Hardmeier
> >> Microsoft MVP since 1999
> >> http://www.ie-vista.com
> >> Internet Explorer Community
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...y/default.mspx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> No, Don, it doesn't help. It breaks the whole purpose of having
> >>> auto-detection. If one does this, unplugs one's laptop from the work
> >>> network and goes home, you can't browse the net because it can't see the
> >>> proxy. Auto-detection exists for a good reason.
> >>>
> >>> I can understand that for many people who have it turned on and don't
> >>> need it, the "turn it off" solution solves the problem. But it still
> >>> doesn't fix the "proxy auto-detection takes far too long" problem. It
> >>> just hides it for people who don't need it.
> >>>
> >>> In general I find software copes with laptops poorly. IE is an example
> >>> but it's not on its own - not at all - probably because so many
> >>> applications use IE as their HTTP engine. Skype is another example. Just
> >>> moving from work to home, which results in an IP address change, does
> >>> necessarily guarantee you that IE will notice the IP change or realise
> >>> the proxy has gone and try auto-detect again. It just fails to let you
> >>> see the world. Skype is worse, once it loses the connection because of
> >>> that, I have to close it and rerun it to make it reconnect - even on the
> >>> original connection.
> >>>
> >>> Kevin.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" <> wrote in message
news:...
> To be honest, I can't explain it properly to myself If an ISP does
> not specifically tell you to enter proxy settings in the connectoid, then
> I find that autodetect is simply not required... all such directioning is
> invariably managed by the server, not the client.

Indeed, many ISP's use transparent proxies. They make their routers redirect
all port 80 traffic to a proxy server. Or they use content based routers
that redirect all HTTP traffic through a proxy (and presumably convert the
standard GET address into a GET host/address in the process).

In other cases, the ISP would like you to go via the proxy but still
supports you going direct so it works both ways.

But in my case I'm behind a corporate firewall half the time and we
definitely need a proxy.pac (either manually or, the preferable policy, by
wpad). We have all manner of partially owned subsidiaries with special
proxies sitting on vpn boundaries between companies and stuff. Our proxy.pac
is hundreds of lines long!

Kevin

An awkward issue... IE7 is not yet supported in a network environment. That
being said, I'm managing IE7 in a networked environment incorporating a
mixture of local and terminal server users and haven't had any issues so I
know the potential is there... I'd be looking real closely at that
proxy.pac.

--

Sandi Hardmeier
Microsoft MVP since 1999
http://www.ie-vista.com
Internet Explorer Community
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...y/default.mspx
The email address I use for newsgroups is a spam trap and does not get read.


"Kevin Lentin" <> wrote in message
news:ea3ojq$sat$...
>
> "Sandi - Microsoft MVP" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> To be honest, I can't explain it properly to myself If an ISP does
>> not specifically tell you to enter proxy settings in the connectoid, then
>> I find that autodetect is simply not required... all such directioning is
>> invariably managed by the server, not the client.
>
> Indeed, many ISP's use transparent proxies. They make their routers
> redirect all port 80 traffic to a proxy server. Or they use content based
> routers that redirect all HTTP traffic through a proxy (and presumably
> convert the standard GET address into a GET host/address in the process).
>
> In other cases, the ISP would like you to go via the proxy but still
> supports you going direct so it works both ways.
>
> But in my case I'm behind a corporate firewall half the time and we
> definitely need a proxy.pac (either manually or, the preferable policy, by
> wpad). We have all manner of partially owned subsidiaries with special
> proxies sitting on vpn boundaries between companies and stuff. Our
> proxy.pac is hundreds of lines long!
>
> Kevin
>