order of posts in newsgroups

I'm new to windows live mail (not happy with it yet).
While viewing newsgroups, I can't seem to get the order I had in OE.
I conversations connected-- got that.
Expand threads - got it.
I want the the newest -thread- on top, I can do ascending/descending.
But I want them ordered by the date the tread starts.
The problem: A two week old thread gets a new post then that thread goes to
the top.
I want there starting date to stay in order.
I suspect there is just one more click I need to make but I can't find
it.
Mikek

On 09/06/2011 22:36, amdx wrote:
> I'm new to windows live mail (not happy with it yet).
> While viewing newsgroups, I can't seem to get the order I had in OE.
> I conversations connected-- got that.
> Expand threads - got it.
> I want the the newest -thread- on top, I can do ascending/descending.
> But I want them ordered by the date the tread starts.
> The problem: A two week old thread gets a new post then that thread goes
> to the top.
> I want there starting date to stay in order.
> I suspect there is just one more click I need to make but I can't find it.
> Mikek
>

I could ~not~ find a solution to the same problem in WLM but I also
found that WLM would not correctly quote messages 'replied to' in
newsgroups, try it .. it's rubbish. I now use Mozilla Thunderbird for
newsgroups, but I'll hang on to WLM for email, for now anyway.

"123Jim" wrote in message news:isrfn6$fge$...

On 09/06/2011 22:36, amdx wrote:
> I'm new to windows live mail (not happy with it yet).
> While viewing newsgroups, I can't seem to get the order I had in OE.
> I conversations connected-- got that.
> Expand threads - got it.
> I want the the newest -thread- on top, I can do ascending/descending.
> But I want them ordered by the date the tread starts.
> The problem: A two week old thread gets a new post then that thread goes
> to the top.
> I want there starting date to stay in order.
> I suspect there is just one more click I need to make but I can't find it.
> Mikek
>

I could ~not~ find a solution to the same problem in WLM but I also
found that WLM would not correctly quote messages 'replied to' in
newsgroups, try it .. it's rubbish. I now use Mozilla Thunderbird for
newsgroups, but I'll hang on to WLM for email, for now anyway.

Hmm.... so it's not just me!
I'm about to go to Thunderbird, but I'll probably use it for my mail too.
Thanks, Mikek

View >> Sort by

Now make sure the DATE and SORT Descending are selected.

Nothing else is to be selected.

hth




amdx wrote:
> I'm new to windows live mail (not happy with it yet).
> While viewing newsgroups, I can't seem to get the order I had in OE.
> I conversations connected-- got that.
> Expand threads - got it.
> I want the the newest -thread- on top, I can do ascending/descending.
> But I want them ordered by the date the tread starts.
> The problem: A two week old thread gets a new post then that thread goes
> to the top.
> I want there starting date to stay in order.
> I suspect there is just one more click I need to make but I can't
> find it.
> Mikek
>

"Tester" wrote in message news:isrovg$kas$...


View >> Sort by

Now make sure the DATE and SORT Descending are selected.

Nothing else is to be selected.

hth

Ok, I'm in "View" I click on "Sort Order" and click "Descending".
What's this about DATE?

A good example is in >sci.electronics.design< it has a Ron Paul thread that
started on 4-29-11
every time someone adds to the thread it jumps back to the top, it's 22
screens down to get to the next thread.
I think it's a flaw in WLM.
Mikek






amdx wrote:
> I'm new to windows live mail (not happy with it yet).
> While viewing newsgroups, I can't seem to get the order I had in OE.
> I conversations connected-- got that.
> Expand threads - got it.
> I want the the newest -thread- on top, I can do ascending/descending.
> But I want them ordered by the date the tread starts.
> The problem: A two week old thread gets a new post then that thread goes
> to the top.
> I want there starting date to stay in order.
> I suspect there is just one more click I need to make but I can't
> find it.
> Mikek
>

What you don't have Date item on your View menu item like in this picture:

<https://picasaweb.google.com/xfsgpr/Jun10201102?authkey=Gv1sRgCNTI3J_Uu_nM6wE#slidesho w/5616403444086340914>

In the picture, the first item is DATE (you can just about see it).
This works fine in WLM version 14 (2009) on Windows XP.

hth


amdx wrote:
>
>

> Ok, I'm in "View" I click on "Sort Order" and click "Descending".
> What's this about DATE?
>
> A good example is in >sci.electronics.design< it has a Ron Paul thread
> that started on 4-29-11
> every time someone adds to the thread it jumps back to the top, it's 22
> screens down to get to the next thread.
> I think it's a flaw in WLM.
> Mikek
>

Hi, Mikek.

In WLM 2011 (aka Build 15.*, aka Wave 4) they changed the listing order - as
you saw. Instead of having the latest-started thread at the top (when
sorted in descending order by date Sent), the thread containing the latest
message is at the top. So if someone replies to a year-old thread today,
the OP in that thread will be at the top, with other messages in that thread
below, with sub-threads indented and listed earliest first, as we used to
see them in OE/WM/WLM pre-2011.

It took some getting used to, but now I'm comfy with that arrangement. All
threads with new traffic are at the top of the list, and I don't have to go
looking to see if there are new posts in threads I am following.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3508.1109) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"amdx" wrote in message news:d984$4df13cfa$18ec6dd7$...

I'm new to windows live mail (not happy with it yet).
While viewing newsgroups, I can't seem to get the order I had in OE.
I conversations connected-- got that.
Expand threads - got it.
I want the the newest -thread- on top, I can do ascending/descending.
But I want them ordered by the date the tread starts.
The problem: A two week old thread gets a new post then that thread goes to
the top.
I want there starting date to stay in order.
I suspect there is just one more click I need to make but I can't find
it.
Mikek

"Tester" wrote in message news:isrtq8$tmf$...

What you don't have Date item on your View menu item like in this picture:

<https://picasaweb.google.com/xfsgpr/Jun10201102?authkey=Gv1sRgCNTI3J_Uu_nM6wE#slidesho w/5616403444086340914>

In the picture, the first item is DATE (you can just about see it).
This works fine in WLM version 14 (2009) on Windows XP.

hth

I'm using Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3502.0922) must be a change since version
14 (2009).
I don't see what you show in your link.
Thanks, Mikek


amdx wrote:
>
>

> Ok, I'm in "View" I click on "Sort Order" and click "Descending".
> What's this about DATE?
>
> A good example is in >sci.electronics.design< it has a Ron Paul thread
> that started on 4-29-11
> every time someone adds to the thread it jumps back to the top, it's 22
> screens down to get to the next thread.
> I think it's a flaw in WLM.
> Mikek
>

"R. C. White" wrote in message
news: ecom...

Hi, Mikek.

In WLM 2011 (aka Build 15.*, aka Wave 4) they changed the listing order - as
you saw. Instead of having the latest-started thread at the top (when
sorted in descending order by date Sent), the thread containing the latest
message is at the top. So if someone replies to a year-old thread today,
the OP in that thread will be at the top, with other messages in that thread
below, with sub-threads indented and listed earliest first, as we used to
see them in OE/WM/WLM pre-2011.

It took some getting used to, but now I'm comfy with that arrangement. All
threads with new traffic are at the top of the list, and I don't have to go
looking to see if there are new posts in threads I am following.

RC

Thanks RC, I wish they had put in an option to change that.
Mikek


"amdx" wrote in message news:d984$4df13cfa$18ec6dd7$...

I'm new to windows live mail (not happy with it yet).
While viewing newsgroups, I can't seem to get the order I had in OE.
I conversations connected-- got that.
Expand threads - got it.
I want the the newest -thread- on top, I can do ascending/descending.
But I want them ordered by the date the tread starts.
The problem: A two week old thread gets a new post then that thread goes to
the top.
I want there starting date to stay in order.
I suspect there is just one more click I need to make but I can't find
it.
Mikek

Hi, Mikek.

Your version of WLM:
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922

is one build out of date. You can get the current build (15.4.3508.1109) -
and any other of the Windows Live Essentials that you might want - at:
http://explore.live.com/windows-live...tials?os=other

But the new build still sorts messages the same way. As I said, I didn't
like it at first, but I'm happy with it after getting used to it. Yes, it
would have been nice to have had an option, rather than being forced to
change.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3508.1109) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"amdx" wrote in message news:d7159$4df18aa6$18ec6dd7$...

"R. C. White" wrote in message
news: ecom...

Hi, Mikek.

In WLM 2011 (aka Build 15.*, aka Wave 4) they changed the listing order - as
you saw. Instead of having the latest-started thread at the top (when
sorted in descending order by date Sent), the thread containing the latest
message is at the top. So if someone replies to a year-old thread today,
the OP in that thread will be at the top, with other messages in that thread
below, with sub-threads indented and listed earliest first, as we used to
see them in OE/WM/WLM pre-2011.

It took some getting used to, but now I'm comfy with that arrangement. All
threads with new traffic are at the top of the list, and I don't have to go
looking to see if there are new posts in threads I am following.

RC

Thanks RC, I wish they had put in an option to change that.
Mikek


"amdx" wrote in message news:d984$4df13cfa$18ec6dd7$...

I'm new to windows live mail (not happy with it yet).
While viewing newsgroups, I can't seem to get the order I had in OE.
I conversations connected-- got that.
Expand threads - got it.
I want the the newest -thread- on top, I can do ascending/descending.
But I want them ordered by the date the tread starts.
The problem: A two week old thread gets a new post then that thread goes to
the top.
I want there starting date to stay in order.
I suspect there is just one more click I need to make but I can't find
it.
Mikek