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carl feredeck
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      07-28-2007
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...month-dsl.html

The Internet in Kazakhstan: welcome to the land of $3,355 per month DSL
By Nate Anderson | Published: July 27, 2007 - 01:39PM CT
With DSL prices like these, it's no wonder Borat left Kazakhstan behind1. A
new report from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe
(PDF) paints a grim picture of Internet access in Kazakhstan and shows how
difficult life can be for those in poor and authoritarian countries who want
to join the worldwide community of Internet users.
Consider the prices for Internet access, for one. Most users (and only four
percent of the country even has access) hook up through state-owned
Kazakhtelecom, a company not concerned with competitive pricing for its
services. An unlimited dial-up plan costs about ?82 ($111) in a country
where the average monthly wage is ?292 ($399). As for DSL, an unlimited
1.5Mbps connection costs ?2,458 ($3,355) a month, and doesn't even included
the required ADSL modem. Want a 6Mbps cable connection? It'll cost you, to
the tune of ?16,144 ($22,032) a month. As the OSCE report drily notes, this
is more than a thousand times the price of such a connection in Western
Europe.
This doesn't just make Internet access expensive; prices like this actually
change the way that people use the Internet, as we've seen in other
countries.
Getting a connection is only the first step, though. Internet policy
decisions-such as canceling domain name registrations-can seem a bit, well,
arbitrary. Borat.kz, a domain registered by UK comedian Sacha Baron Cohen,
was summarily shut down by the Association of a IT Companies in December
2005. The reason: "We've done this so he can't badmouth Kazakhstan under the
..kz domain name," the head of the association told Reuters. "He can go and
do whatever he wants at other domains."
The government is also not real excited about websites that publish "dirt,"
"lies," and threaten national security, and the country's Minister of
Information last year announced that a comprehensive policy on dealing with
these issues would soon be announced. Although it has yet to appear,
Kazakhstan's "Information Security Concept" was approved by President
Nursultan Nazarbayev. That "Concept" makes clear that Kazakhstan is faced
with serious threats from "destructive illegal political, religious, and
economic organizations," "certain foreign political, economic, military, and
information structures," and "unlawful activities of political and economic
organizations in creating, disseminating, and using information."
Bloggers who have published items critical of the government have been
charged under statutes that prohibit any violations of the president's
"honor and dignity." In 2003, a journalist complained that one of his
favorite websites is being blocked. According to the report, "the prosecutor
opened a criminal case against him for compromising the security system of
Kazakhtelecom. He was beaten, sentenced and sent behind bars."
As that last example indicates, content filtering is alive and well in the
country. For several years, the preferred method of blocking was apparently
by IP address, but that came to an end in 2005. The method of choice is now
"increasing the connection latency" so that undesirable sites take so long
to load that users give up.
Kazakhstan has recently been attempting to raise its worldwide profile, and
it has been a member of the OSCE since 1992. For both of those reasons, it
may pay some attention to the report, which concludes by suggesting that the
country get rid of the state telecom monopoly, that the OSCE should monitor
networks in the country to see if Kazakhstan is still filtering content, and
that the government there should work to "support affordable and safe
hosting a websites with the national ISPs."


 
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      07-28-2007
Who gives a RATS ASS - Just FYI

"carl feredeck" <> wrote in message
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> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...month-dsl.html
>
> The Internet in Kazakhstan: welcome to the land of $3,355 per month DSL
> By Nate Anderson | Published: July 27, 2007 - 01:39PM CT
> With DSL prices like these, it's no wonder Borat left Kazakhstan behind1.
> A new report from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe
> (PDF) paints a grim picture of Internet access in Kazakhstan and shows how
> difficult life can be for those in poor and authoritarian countries who
> want to join the worldwide community of Internet users.
> Consider the prices for Internet access, for one. Most users (and only
> four percent of the country even has access) hook up through state-owned
> Kazakhtelecom, a company not concerned with competitive pricing for its
> services. An unlimited dial-up plan costs about ?82 ($111) in a country
> where the average monthly wage is ?292 ($399). As for DSL, an unlimited
> 1.5Mbps connection costs ?2,458 ($3,355) a month, and doesn't even
> included the required ADSL modem. Want a 6Mbps cable connection? It'll
> cost you, to the tune of ?16,144 ($22,032) a month. As the OSCE report
> drily notes, this is more than a thousand times the price of such a
> connection in Western Europe.
> This doesn't just make Internet access expensive; prices like this
> actually change the way that people use the Internet, as we've seen in
> other countries.
> Getting a connection is only the first step, though. Internet policy
> decisions-such as canceling domain name registrations-can seem a bit,
> well, arbitrary. Borat.kz, a domain registered by UK comedian Sacha Baron
> Cohen, was summarily shut down by the Association of a IT Companies in
> December 2005. The reason: "We've done this so he can't badmouth
> Kazakhstan under the .kz domain name," the head of the association told
> Reuters. "He can go and do whatever he wants at other domains."
> The government is also not real excited about websites that publish
> "dirt," "lies," and threaten national security, and the country's Minister
> of Information last year announced that a comprehensive policy on dealing
> with these issues would soon be announced. Although it has yet to appear,
> Kazakhstan's "Information Security Concept" was approved by President
> Nursultan Nazarbayev. That "Concept" makes clear that Kazakhstan is faced
> with serious threats from "destructive illegal political, religious, and
> economic organizations," "certain foreign political, economic, military,
> and information structures," and "unlawful activities of political and
> economic organizations in creating, disseminating, and using information."
> Bloggers who have published items critical of the government have been
> charged under statutes that prohibit any violations of the president's
> "honor and dignity." In 2003, a journalist complained that one of his
> favorite websites is being blocked. According to the report, "the
> prosecutor opened a criminal case against him for compromising the
> security system of Kazakhtelecom. He was beaten, sentenced and sent behind
> bars."
> As that last example indicates, content filtering is alive and well in the
> country. For several years, the preferred method of blocking was
> apparently by IP address, but that came to an end in 2005. The method of
> choice is now "increasing the connection latency" so that undesirable
> sites take so long to load that users give up.
> Kazakhstan has recently been attempting to raise its worldwide profile,
> and it has been a member of the OSCE since 1992. For both of those
> reasons, it may pay some attention to the report, which concludes by
> suggesting that the country get rid of the state telecom monopoly, that
> the OSCE should monitor networks in the country to see if Kazakhstan is
> still filtering content, and that the government there should work to
> "support affordable and safe hosting a websites with the national ISPs."
>



 
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      07-28-2007
Since we are playing with numbers:

My husband purchased a hybrid Lexus costing $45,000 approx. US Dollars.
Now if you divide that amount by 12 that will give you a cost of $3,750.
But who pays for a brand new Lexus over 12 months? Not that many people.
We also have DSL in the house and we pay about $25.00 per month. Say we
decided to keep the DSL for 3 years, our total outlay of cash for DSL will
be $900.00 in a country where the average wage for people using DSL is
somewhere between $25,000 per year to $45,600 per year according to the
figures that I pulled out of my ass.

No then you ask, what about that nice new Lexus. Shouldn't you be financing
it over 4-5 years to get the payments down? I thought, DAMN right. Let me
go talk to my husband and see what he says. He was on the toilet when I
asked so he yelled at me to leave him alone.

I then decided that a payment of $625.00 a month would be good enough for us
to handle. So I am now paying $625.00 a month. I don't know how we did it,
but we did.

I hope that takes care of your little problem.

"carl feredeck" <> wrote in message
news:46ab4fcc$...
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...month-dsl.html
>
> The Internet in Kazakhstan: welcome to the land of $3,355 per month DSL
> By Nate Anderson | Published: July 27, 2007 - 01:39PM CT
> With DSL prices like these, it's no wonder Borat left Kazakhstan behind1.
> A new report from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe
> (PDF) paints a grim picture of Internet access in Kazakhstan and shows how
> difficult life can be for those in poor and authoritarian countries who
> want to join the worldwide community of Internet users.
> Consider the prices for Internet access, for one. Most users (and only
> four percent of the country even has access) hook up through state-owned
> Kazakhtelecom, a company not concerned with competitive pricing for its
> services. An unlimited dial-up plan costs about ?82 ($111) in a country
> where the average monthly wage is ?292 ($399). As for DSL, an unlimited
> 1.5Mbps connection costs ?2,458 ($3,355) a month, and doesn't even
> included the required ADSL modem. Want a 6Mbps cable connection? It'll
> cost you, to the tune of ?16,144 ($22,032) a month. As the OSCE report
> drily notes, this is more than a thousand times the price of such a
> connection in Western Europe.
> This doesn't just make Internet access expensive; prices like this
> actually change the way that people use the Internet, as we've seen in
> other countries.
> Getting a connection is only the first step, though. Internet policy
> decisions-such as canceling domain name registrations-can seem a bit,
> well, arbitrary. Borat.kz, a domain registered by UK comedian Sacha Baron
> Cohen, was summarily shut down by the Association of a IT Companies in
> December 2005. The reason: "We've done this so he can't badmouth
> Kazakhstan under the .kz domain name," the head of the association told
> Reuters. "He can go and do whatever he wants at other domains."
> The government is also not real excited about websites that publish
> "dirt," "lies," and threaten national security, and the country's Minister
> of Information last year announced that a comprehensive policy on dealing
> with these issues would soon be announced. Although it has yet to appear,
> Kazakhstan's "Information Security Concept" was approved by President
> Nursultan Nazarbayev. That "Concept" makes clear that Kazakhstan is faced
> with serious threats from "destructive illegal political, religious, and
> economic organizations," "certain foreign political, economic, military,
> and information structures," and "unlawful activities of political and
> economic organizations in creating, disseminating, and using information."
> Bloggers who have published items critical of the government have been
> charged under statutes that prohibit any violations of the president's
> "honor and dignity." In 2003, a journalist complained that one of his
> favorite websites is being blocked. According to the report, "the
> prosecutor opened a criminal case against him for compromising the
> security system of Kazakhtelecom. He was beaten, sentenced and sent behind
> bars."
> As that last example indicates, content filtering is alive and well in the
> country. For several years, the preferred method of blocking was
> apparently by IP address, but that came to an end in 2005. The method of
> choice is now "increasing the connection latency" so that undesirable
> sites take so long to load that users give up.
> Kazakhstan has recently been attempting to raise its worldwide profile,
> and it has been a member of the OSCE since 1992. For both of those
> reasons, it may pay some attention to the report, which concludes by
> suggesting that the country get rid of the state telecom monopoly, that
> the OSCE should monitor networks in the country to see if Kazakhstan is
> still filtering content, and that the government there should work to
> "support affordable and safe hosting a websites with the national ISPs."
>



 
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