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Kerem Gümrükcü
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Hi,
this speaks for itself: http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr1.jpg http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr2.jpg http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr3.jpg http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr4.jpg http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr5.jpg http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr6.jpg http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr7.jpg How this happened: I wanted to send System to Hbernation Mode, but it was not able to enter this state: No Error Log Entries, no Messages, it just turned from "Preparing for Hibernation,..." to this Window. Interessting is that you can see in a Screenshot that everything is rendered false except the disabled MenuItems on Menus. Why only disabled items are drawn correctly. An why can the content from Internet Explorer be drawn correctly? Every Application started after this fault has totally destroyed Character repesentation and Consoles write their buffers also false and randomly as you can see. I had to restart the complete System to get a usefull state. If i wouldn't be that familliar with the OS and MS Paint i couldnt make these screeenshots and save them, since you can read nothing on any window or menu items,... Oh yes, why will the content from FreeMath rendered successfully and other apps not? Its OT but maybe someone is interessted in it and also can expplain me what and why this happens,...OS is SP3 WinXPPro, you propably already figured this out from the Screenshots,.. Regards Kerem -- ----------------------- Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue Kerem Gümrükcü Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de ----------------------- "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." |
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Alexander Grigoriev
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1. Check your system memory for stability (good memory test, not just POST)
2. That could be your video driver misbehaving. Or some crapware hooked to your video drover (remote access?) "Kerem Gümrükcü" <> wrote in message news:%23A%23wT$... > Hi, > > this speaks for itself: > > http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr1.jpg > http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr2.jpg > http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr3.jpg > http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr4.jpg > http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr5.jpg > http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr6.jpg > http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr7.jpg > > How this happened: I wanted to send System to Hbernation Mode, > but it was not able to enter this state: No Error Log Entries, no > Messages, it just turned from "Preparing for Hibernation,..." to > this Window. Interessting is that you can see in a Screenshot that > everything is rendered false except the disabled MenuItems on > Menus. Why only disabled items are drawn correctly. An why > can the content from Internet Explorer be drawn correctly? > Every Application started after this fault has totally destroyed > Character repesentation and Consoles write their buffers also > false and randomly as you can see. I had to restart the complete > System to get a usefull state. If i wouldn't be that familliar with > the OS and MS Paint i couldnt make these screeenshots and > save them, since you can read nothing on any window or menu > items,... > > Oh yes, why will the content from FreeMath rendered successfully > and other apps not? > > Its OT but maybe someone is interessted in it and also can expplain > me what and why this happens,...OS is SP3 WinXPPro, you propably > already figured this out from the Screenshots,.. > > Regards > > Kerem > > -- > ----------------------- > Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue > Kerem Gümrükcü > Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ > Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de > ----------------------- > "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." |
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Kerem Gümrükcü
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Hi Alexander,
>1. Check your system memory for stability (good memory test, not just POST) My recommendation for everybody: http://www.memtest.org/ I checked memory even yesterday,..really! No Problems,... >2. That could be your video driver misbehaving. Or some crapware hooked to >your video drover (remote access?) The only video driver attached to the system except the primary video driver is UltraVNC Video Driver and there was never ever a problem with it at least on my system. Here is some Version info: C:\Programme\verinfo>verinfo C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys File Version Info for: "C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys" [FileName] -- C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys -- [Language] -- Sprachneutral -- [Comments] -- "No Information Available" -- [CompanyName] -- RDV Soft -- [FileDescription] -- Ultravnc Mirror Driver -- [FileVersion] -- 1.00.17 -- [InternalName] -- vncdrv.sys -- [LegalCopyright] -- RDV Soft -- [LegalTrademarks] -- "No Information Available" -- [OriginalFilename] -- vncdrv.sys -- [ProductName] -- UltraVnc Mirror Driver -- [ProductVersion] -- 1.00.17 -- [PrivateBuild] -- "No Information Available" -- [SpecialBuild] -- "No Information Available" -- [Checksums] -- Header Sum: 65670 -- -- Computed Sum: 65670 -- [ImageExtraInfo] -- Image Characteristics: 270 -- -- Machine: 332 -- -- Subsystem: 1 -- -- Major Linker Version: 7 -- -- Minor Linker Version: 10 -- -- Minor Image Version: 5 -- -- Minor Image Version: 0 -- -- Major Operating System Version: 5 -- -- Minor Operating System Version: 0 -- -- Major Subsystem Version: 5 -- -- Minor Subsystem Version: 0 -- -- Image Magic: 267 -- -- Image Checksum: 65670 -- -- Image Dll Characteristics: 1024 -- Even it was not loaded and/or activated while this happened,... Regards Kerem -- ----------------------- Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue Kerem Gümrükcü Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de ----------------------- "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." "Alexander Grigoriev" <> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:... > 1. Check your system memory for stability (good memory test, not just > POST) > 2. That could be your video driver misbehaving. Or some crapware hooked to > your video drover (remote access?) > > "Kerem Gümrükcü" <> wrote in message > news:%23A%23wT$... >> Hi, >> >> this speaks for itself: >> >> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr1.jpg >> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr2.jpg >> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr3.jpg >> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr4.jpg >> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr5.jpg >> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr6.jpg >> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr7.jpg >> >> How this happened: I wanted to send System to Hbernation Mode, >> but it was not able to enter this state: No Error Log Entries, no >> Messages, it just turned from "Preparing for Hibernation,..." to >> this Window. Interessting is that you can see in a Screenshot that >> everything is rendered false except the disabled MenuItems on >> Menus. Why only disabled items are drawn correctly. An why >> can the content from Internet Explorer be drawn correctly? >> Every Application started after this fault has totally destroyed >> Character repesentation and Consoles write their buffers also >> false and randomly as you can see. I had to restart the complete >> System to get a usefull state. If i wouldn't be that familliar with >> the OS and MS Paint i couldnt make these screeenshots and >> save them, since you can read nothing on any window or menu >> items,... >> >> Oh yes, why will the content from FreeMath rendered successfully >> and other apps not? >> >> Its OT but maybe someone is interessted in it and also can expplain >> me what and why this happens,...OS is SP3 WinXPPro, you propably >> already figured this out from the Screenshots,.. >> >> Regards >> >> Kerem >> >> -- >> ----------------------- >> Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue >> Kerem Gümrükcü >> Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ >> Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de >> ----------------------- >> "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." > > |
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Ivan Brugiolo [MSFT]
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The images shown would make me think of GDI handle exhaustion,
USER handle exhaustion, Desktop-Heap exhaustion, or, Session-Space exhausion. The fact that you have a mirror driver would make me think of the 4th one. -- -- This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified at http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm "Kerem Gümrükcü" <> wrote in message news:... > Hi Alexander, > >>1. Check your system memory for stability (good memory test, not just >>POST) > > My recommendation for everybody: > http://www.memtest.org/ > > I checked memory even yesterday,..really! No Problems,... > >>2. That could be your video driver misbehaving. Or some crapware hooked to >>your video drover (remote access?) > > The only video driver attached to the system except > the primary video driver is UltraVNC Video Driver > and there was never ever a problem with it at least > on my system. Here is some Version info: > > C:\Programme\verinfo>verinfo C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys > > File Version Info for: > "C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys" > > [FileName] > -- C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys -- > [Language] > -- Sprachneutral -- > [Comments] > -- "No Information Available" -- > [CompanyName] > -- RDV Soft -- > [FileDescription] > -- Ultravnc Mirror Driver -- > [FileVersion] > -- 1.00.17 -- > [InternalName] > -- vncdrv.sys -- > [LegalCopyright] > -- RDV Soft -- > [LegalTrademarks] > -- "No Information Available" -- > [OriginalFilename] > -- vncdrv.sys -- > [ProductName] > -- UltraVnc Mirror Driver -- > [ProductVersion] > -- 1.00.17 -- > [PrivateBuild] > -- "No Information Available" -- > [SpecialBuild] > -- "No Information Available" -- > [Checksums] > -- Header Sum: 65670 -- > -- Computed Sum: 65670 -- > [ImageExtraInfo] > -- Image Characteristics: 270 -- > -- Machine: 332 -- > -- Subsystem: 1 -- > -- Major Linker Version: 7 -- > -- Minor Linker Version: 10 -- > -- Minor Image Version: 5 -- > -- Minor Image Version: 0 -- > -- Major Operating System Version: 5 -- > -- Minor Operating System Version: 0 -- > -- Major Subsystem Version: 5 -- > -- Minor Subsystem Version: 0 -- > -- Image Magic: 267 -- > -- Image Checksum: 65670 -- > -- Image Dll Characteristics: 1024 -- > > > Even it was not loaded and/or activated while this happened,... > > Regards > > Kerem > > -- > ----------------------- > Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue > Kerem Gümrükcü > Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ > Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de > ----------------------- > "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." > "Alexander Grigoriev" <> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > news:... >> 1. Check your system memory for stability (good memory test, not just >> POST) >> 2. That could be your video driver misbehaving. Or some crapware hooked >> to your video drover (remote access?) >> >> "Kerem Gümrükcü" <> wrote in message >> news:%23A%23wT$... >>> Hi, >>> >>> this speaks for itself: >>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr1.jpg >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr2.jpg >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr3.jpg >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr4.jpg >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr5.jpg >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr6.jpg >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr7.jpg >>> >>> How this happened: I wanted to send System to Hbernation Mode, >>> but it was not able to enter this state: No Error Log Entries, no >>> Messages, it just turned from "Preparing for Hibernation,..." to >>> this Window. Interessting is that you can see in a Screenshot that >>> everything is rendered false except the disabled MenuItems on >>> Menus. Why only disabled items are drawn correctly. An why >>> can the content from Internet Explorer be drawn correctly? >>> Every Application started after this fault has totally destroyed >>> Character repesentation and Consoles write their buffers also >>> false and randomly as you can see. I had to restart the complete >>> System to get a usefull state. If i wouldn't be that familliar with >>> the OS and MS Paint i couldnt make these screeenshots and >>> save them, since you can read nothing on any window or menu >>> items,... >>> >>> Oh yes, why will the content from FreeMath rendered successfully >>> and other apps not? >>> >>> Its OT but maybe someone is interessted in it and also can expplain >>> me what and why this happens,...OS is SP3 WinXPPro, you propably >>> already figured this out from the Screenshots,.. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Kerem >>> >>> -- >>> ----------------------- >>> Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue >>> Kerem Gümrükcü >>> Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ >>> Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de >>> ----------------------- >>> "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." >> >> > |
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Ken Snyder
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Hi Ivan,
>The fact that you have a mirror driver would make me think of the 4th one. at the Time this happened, the driver neither was started nor loaded in any way in the systems user/kernelspace, in fact it was just a binary located somewhere on the hard disk. The point is, that i did a call to SetSystemPowerState (hibernate,force), the system started to prepare for this and suddenly returned to that surface what you saw. No MessageBox, schowing any "Driver did not allow to set state xyz" or something like that. But why and what has happened that made any characters and any sort of drawing text gone, especially the console subsystem. What happened internally there? What is the Limit of USER/GDI/DESKTOP/SESSION Objects/Handles? I do have lots of physical memory (i mean if not there is virtual space, no matter how much physical you have!) But i do not have lots of paging access while working, anyway, whats the Limit of these objects and on what does this depend,...and what do i have to take care/measure to avoid such situations,...i guess there is no indicator for this,..am i right? Regards Kerem -- -- ----------------------- Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue Kerem Gümrükcü Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de ----------------------- "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." "Ivan Brugiolo [MSFT]" <> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:545DB2A6-61E4-484D-BCB0-... > The images shown would make me think of GDI handle exhaustion, > USER handle exhaustion, Desktop-Heap exhaustion, or, Session-Space > exhausion. > The fact that you have a mirror driver would make me think of the 4th one. > > -- > -- > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. > Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified at > http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm > > > "Kerem Gümrükcü" <> wrote in message > news:... > > Hi Alexander, > > > >>1. Check your system memory for stability (good memory test, not just > >>POST) > > > > My recommendation for everybody: > > http://www.memtest.org/ > > > > I checked memory even yesterday,..really! No Problems,... > > > >>2. That could be your video driver misbehaving. Or some crapware hooked to > >>your video drover (remote access?) > > > > The only video driver attached to the system except > > the primary video driver is UltraVNC Video Driver > > and there was never ever a problem with it at least > > on my system. Here is some Version info: > > > > C:\Programme\verinfo>verinfo C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys > > > > File Version Info for: > > "C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys" > > > > [FileName] > > -- C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys -- > > [Language] > > -- Sprachneutral -- > > [Comments] > > -- "No Information Available" -- > > [CompanyName] > > -- RDV Soft -- > > [FileDescription] > > -- Ultravnc Mirror Driver -- > > [FileVersion] > > -- 1.00.17 -- > > [InternalName] > > -- vncdrv.sys -- > > [LegalCopyright] > > -- RDV Soft -- > > [LegalTrademarks] > > -- "No Information Available" -- > > [OriginalFilename] > > -- vncdrv.sys -- > > [ProductName] > > -- UltraVnc Mirror Driver -- > > [ProductVersion] > > -- 1.00.17 -- > > [PrivateBuild] > > -- "No Information Available" -- > > [SpecialBuild] > > -- "No Information Available" -- > > [Checksums] > > -- Header Sum: 65670 -- > > -- Computed Sum: 65670 -- > > [ImageExtraInfo] > > -- Image Characteristics: 270 -- > > -- Machine: 332 -- > > -- Subsystem: 1 -- > > -- Major Linker Version: 7 -- > > -- Minor Linker Version: 10 -- > > -- Minor Image Version: 5 -- > > -- Minor Image Version: 0 -- > > -- Major Operating System Version: 5 -- > > -- Minor Operating System Version: 0 -- > > -- Major Subsystem Version: 5 -- > > -- Minor Subsystem Version: 0 -- > > -- Image Magic: 267 -- > > -- Image Checksum: 65670 -- > > -- Image Dll Characteristics: 1024 -- > > > > > > Even it was not loaded and/or activated while this happened,... > > > > Regards > > > > Kerem > > > > -- > > ----------------------- > > Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue > > Kerem Gümrükcü > > Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ > > Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de > > ----------------------- > > "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." > > "Alexander Grigoriev" <> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > > news:... > >> 1. Check your system memory for stability (good memory test, not just > >> POST) > >> 2. That could be your video driver misbehaving. Or some crapware hooked > >> to your video drover (remote access?) > >> > >> "Kerem Gümrükcü" <> wrote in message > >> news:%23A%23wT$... > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> this speaks for itself: > >>> > >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr1.jpg > >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr2.jpg > >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr3.jpg > >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr4.jpg > >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr5.jpg > >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr6.jpg > >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr7.jpg > >>> > >>> How this happened: I wanted to send System to Hbernation Mode, > >>> but it was not able to enter this state: No Error Log Entries, no > >>> Messages, it just turned from "Preparing for Hibernation,..." to > >>> this Window. Interessting is that you can see in a Screenshot that > >>> everything is rendered false except the disabled MenuItems on > >>> Menus. Why only disabled items are drawn correctly. An why > >>> can the content from Internet Explorer be drawn correctly? > >>> Every Application started after this fault has totally destroyed > >>> Character repesentation and Consoles write their buffers also > >>> false and randomly as you can see. I had to restart the complete > >>> System to get a usefull state. If i wouldn't be that familliar with > >>> the OS and MS Paint i couldnt make these screeenshots and > >>> save them, since you can read nothing on any window or menu > >>> items,... > >>> > >>> Oh yes, why will the content from FreeMath rendered successfully > >>> and other apps not? > >>> > >>> Its OT but maybe someone is interessted in it and also can expplain > >>> me what and why this happens,...OS is SP3 WinXPPro, you propably > >>> already figured this out from the Screenshots,.. > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> > >>> Kerem > >>> > >>> -- > >>> ----------------------- > >>> Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue > >>> Kerem Gümrükcü > >>> Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ > >>> Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de > >>> ----------------------- > >>> "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." > >> > >> > > > |
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Ivan Brugiolo [MSFT]
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Gdi and User handle should be monitorable via perf-mon.
Their limit is around 10000 per process and 64000 per session. Desktop-Heap should be monitorable with a tool called dheapmon. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/184802 should be a good reading. For the general issue, this should also be a recomended reading. http://blogs.msdn.com/ntdebugging/ar...-overview.aspx For the session space exhaustion, if you are on WinXp/Win2003-32-bit, there are no magic tools that I'm aware of, short of debugging the Mm structures in KD. While I do not have a good idea why hibernation is triggering the issue, I have debugged quite a few session space exhaustion, where either the creation of a large bitmap was failing, or, the mere existence of very large display driver was killing the contiguous space of session space, and, session space fragmentation was preventing all but small operations from completing. -- -- This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified at http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm "Ken Snyder" <> wrote in message news:%... > Hi Ivan, > >>The fact that you have a mirror driver would make me think of the 4th one. > > at the Time this happened, the driver neither was started nor loaded > in any way in the systems user/kernelspace, in fact it was just a binary > located somewhere on the hard disk. The point is, that i did a call to > SetSystemPowerState (hibernate,force), the system started to prepare > for this and suddenly returned to that surface what you saw. No > MessageBox, > schowing any "Driver did not allow to set state xyz" or something like > that. > But why and what has happened that made any characters and any sort of > drawing text gone, especially the console subsystem. What happened > internally there? What is the Limit of USER/GDI/DESKTOP/SESSION > Objects/Handles? I do have lots of physical memory (i mean if not there is > virtual space, no matter how much physical you have!) But i do not have > lots of paging access while working, anyway, whats the Limit of these > objects > and on what does this depend,...and what do i have to take care/measure > to avoid such situations,...i guess there is no indicator for this,..am i > right? > > > Regards > > Kerem > > -- > -- > ----------------------- > Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue > Kerem Gümrükcü > Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ > Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de > ----------------------- > "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." > > "Ivan Brugiolo [MSFT]" <> schrieb im > Newsbeitrag news:545DB2A6-61E4-484D-BCB0-... >> The images shown would make me think of GDI handle exhaustion, >> USER handle exhaustion, Desktop-Heap exhaustion, or, Session-Space >> exhausion. >> The fact that you have a mirror driver would make me think of the 4th >> one. >> >> -- >> -- >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > rights. >> Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified at >> http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm >> >> >> "Kerem Gümrükcü" <> wrote in message >> news:... >> > Hi Alexander, >> > >> >>1. Check your system memory for stability (good memory test, not just >> >>POST) >> > >> > My recommendation for everybody: >> > http://www.memtest.org/ >> > >> > I checked memory even yesterday,..really! No Problems,... >> > >> >>2. That could be your video driver misbehaving. Or some crapware hooked > to >> >>your video drover (remote access?) >> > >> > The only video driver attached to the system except >> > the primary video driver is UltraVNC Video Driver >> > and there was never ever a problem with it at least >> > on my system. Here is some Version info: >> > >> > C:\Programme\verinfo>verinfo C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys >> > >> > File Version Info for: >> > "C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys" >> > >> > [FileName] >> > -- C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys -- >> > [Language] >> > -- Sprachneutral -- >> > [Comments] >> > -- "No Information Available" -- >> > [CompanyName] >> > -- RDV Soft -- >> > [FileDescription] >> > -- Ultravnc Mirror Driver -- >> > [FileVersion] >> > -- 1.00.17 -- >> > [InternalName] >> > -- vncdrv.sys -- >> > [LegalCopyright] >> > -- RDV Soft -- >> > [LegalTrademarks] >> > -- "No Information Available" -- >> > [OriginalFilename] >> > -- vncdrv.sys -- >> > [ProductName] >> > -- UltraVnc Mirror Driver -- >> > [ProductVersion] >> > -- 1.00.17 -- >> > [PrivateBuild] >> > -- "No Information Available" -- >> > [SpecialBuild] >> > -- "No Information Available" -- >> > [Checksums] >> > -- Header Sum: 65670 -- >> > -- Computed Sum: 65670 -- >> > [ImageExtraInfo] >> > -- Image Characteristics: 270 -- >> > -- Machine: 332 -- >> > -- Subsystem: 1 -- >> > -- Major Linker Version: 7 -- >> > -- Minor Linker Version: 10 -- >> > -- Minor Image Version: 5 -- >> > -- Minor Image Version: 0 -- >> > -- Major Operating System Version: 5 -- >> > -- Minor Operating System Version: 0 -- >> > -- Major Subsystem Version: 5 -- >> > -- Minor Subsystem Version: 0 -- >> > -- Image Magic: 267 -- >> > -- Image Checksum: 65670 -- >> > -- Image Dll Characteristics: 1024 -- >> > >> > >> > Even it was not loaded and/or activated while this happened,... >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Kerem >> > >> > -- >> > ----------------------- >> > Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue >> > Kerem Gümrükcü >> > Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ >> > Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de >> > ----------------------- >> > "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." >> > "Alexander Grigoriev" <> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >> > news:... >> >> 1. Check your system memory for stability (good memory test, not just >> >> POST) >> >> 2. That could be your video driver misbehaving. Or some crapware >> >> hooked >> >> to your video drover (remote access?) >> >> >> >> "Kerem Gümrükcü" <> wrote in message >> >> news:%23A%23wT$... >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> this speaks for itself: >> >>> >> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr1.jpg >> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr2.jpg >> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr3.jpg >> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr4.jpg >> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr5.jpg >> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr6.jpg >> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr7.jpg >> >>> >> >>> How this happened: I wanted to send System to Hbernation Mode, >> >>> but it was not able to enter this state: No Error Log Entries, no >> >>> Messages, it just turned from "Preparing for Hibernation,..." to >> >>> this Window. Interessting is that you can see in a Screenshot that >> >>> everything is rendered false except the disabled MenuItems on >> >>> Menus. Why only disabled items are drawn correctly. An why >> >>> can the content from Internet Explorer be drawn correctly? >> >>> Every Application started after this fault has totally destroyed >> >>> Character repesentation and Consoles write their buffers also >> >>> false and randomly as you can see. I had to restart the complete >> >>> System to get a usefull state. If i wouldn't be that familliar with >> >>> the OS and MS Paint i couldnt make these screeenshots and >> >>> save them, since you can read nothing on any window or menu >> >>> items,... >> >>> >> >>> Oh yes, why will the content from FreeMath rendered successfully >> >>> and other apps not? >> >>> >> >>> Its OT but maybe someone is interessted in it and also can expplain >> >>> me what and why this happens,...OS is SP3 WinXPPro, you propably >> >>> already figured this out from the Screenshots,.. >> >>> >> >>> Regards >> >>> >> >>> Kerem >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> ----------------------- >> >>> Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue >> >>> Kerem Gümrükcü >> >>> Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ >> >>> Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de >> >>> ----------------------- >> >>> "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > |
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yes, it really was the call to SetSystemPowerState, i mean we are sure that this was not the reason, the function i mean, but some other lower level code that lead to this. I could not reproduce this on my Windows XP System. The Application that send Windows to Hibernate was a self made .NET based UserMode-Only application that just drops a SetSystemPowerState(false,true); to the Windows API, thats all,... Maybe the Force-Flag lead to this. But i dont know how? Thanks for the Links,... Regards Kerem -- ----------------------- Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue Kerem Gümrükcü Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de ----------------------- "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." "Ivan Brugiolo [MSFT]" <> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:6F36F36A-22BE-4F9E-99A8-... > Gdi and User handle should be monitorable via perf-mon. > Their limit is around 10000 per process and 64000 per session. > > Desktop-Heap should be monitorable with a tool called dheapmon. > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/184802 should be a good reading. > For the general issue, this should also be a recomended reading. > http://blogs.msdn.com/ntdebugging/ar...-overview.aspx > > For the session space exhaustion, if you are on WinXp/Win2003-32-bit, > there are no magic tools that I'm aware of, short of debugging > the Mm structures in KD. > While I do not have a good idea why hibernation is triggering the issue, > I have debugged quite a few session space exhaustion, where either > the creation of a large bitmap was failing, or, the mere existence of > very large display driver was killing the contiguous space of session > space, > and, session space fragmentation was preventing all but small operations > from completing. > > -- > -- > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > rights. > Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified at > http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm > > > "Ken Snyder" <> wrote in message > news:%... >> Hi Ivan, >> >>>The fact that you have a mirror driver would make me think of the 4th >>>one. >> >> at the Time this happened, the driver neither was started nor loaded >> in any way in the systems user/kernelspace, in fact it was just a binary >> located somewhere on the hard disk. The point is, that i did a call to >> SetSystemPowerState (hibernate,force), the system started to prepare >> for this and suddenly returned to that surface what you saw. No >> MessageBox, >> schowing any "Driver did not allow to set state xyz" or something like >> that. >> But why and what has happened that made any characters and any sort of >> drawing text gone, especially the console subsystem. What happened >> internally there? What is the Limit of USER/GDI/DESKTOP/SESSION >> Objects/Handles? I do have lots of physical memory (i mean if not there >> is >> virtual space, no matter how much physical you have!) But i do not have >> lots of paging access while working, anyway, whats the Limit of these >> objects >> and on what does this depend,...and what do i have to take care/measure >> to avoid such situations,...i guess there is no indicator for this,..am i >> right? >> >> >> Regards >> >> Kerem >> >> -- >> -- >> ----------------------- >> Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue >> Kerem Gümrükcü >> Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ >> Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de >> ----------------------- >> "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." >> >> "Ivan Brugiolo [MSFT]" <> schrieb im >> Newsbeitrag news:545DB2A6-61E4-484D-BCB0-... >>> The images shown would make me think of GDI handle exhaustion, >>> USER handle exhaustion, Desktop-Heap exhaustion, or, Session-Space >>> exhausion. >>> The fact that you have a mirror driver would make me think of the 4th >>> one. >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >> rights. >>> Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified at >>> http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm >>> >>> >>> "Kerem Gümrükcü" <> wrote in message >>> news:... >>> > Hi Alexander, >>> > >>> >>1. Check your system memory for stability (good memory test, not just >>> >>POST) >>> > >>> > My recommendation for everybody: >>> > http://www.memtest.org/ >>> > >>> > I checked memory even yesterday,..really! No Problems,... >>> > >>> >>2. That could be your video driver misbehaving. Or some crapware >>> >>hooked >> to >>> >>your video drover (remote access?) >>> > >>> > The only video driver attached to the system except >>> > the primary video driver is UltraVNC Video Driver >>> > and there was never ever a problem with it at least >>> > on my system. Here is some Version info: >>> > >>> > C:\Programme\verinfo>verinfo C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys >>> > >>> > File Version Info for: >>> > "C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys" >>> > >>> > [FileName] >>> > -- C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys -- >>> > [Language] >>> > -- Sprachneutral -- >>> > [Comments] >>> > -- "No Information Available" -- >>> > [CompanyName] >>> > -- RDV Soft -- >>> > [FileDescription] >>> > -- Ultravnc Mirror Driver -- >>> > [FileVersion] >>> > -- 1.00.17 -- >>> > [InternalName] >>> > -- vncdrv.sys -- >>> > [LegalCopyright] >>> > -- RDV Soft -- >>> > [LegalTrademarks] >>> > -- "No Information Available" -- >>> > [OriginalFilename] >>> > -- vncdrv.sys -- >>> > [ProductName] >>> > -- UltraVnc Mirror Driver -- >>> > [ProductVersion] >>> > -- 1.00.17 -- >>> > [PrivateBuild] >>> > -- "No Information Available" -- >>> > [SpecialBuild] >>> > -- "No Information Available" -- >>> > [Checksums] >>> > -- Header Sum: 65670 -- >>> > -- Computed Sum: 65670 -- >>> > [ImageExtraInfo] >>> > -- Image Characteristics: 270 -- >>> > -- Machine: 332 -- >>> > -- Subsystem: 1 -- >>> > -- Major Linker Version: 7 -- >>> > -- Minor Linker Version: 10 -- >>> > -- Minor Image Version: 5 -- >>> > -- Minor Image Version: 0 -- >>> > -- Major Operating System Version: 5 -- >>> > -- Minor Operating System Version: 0 -- >>> > -- Major Subsystem Version: 5 -- >>> > -- Minor Subsystem Version: 0 -- >>> > -- Image Magic: 267 -- >>> > -- Image Checksum: 65670 -- >>> > -- Image Dll Characteristics: 1024 -- >>> > >>> > >>> > Even it was not loaded and/or activated while this happened,... >>> > >>> > Regards >>> > >>> > Kerem >>> > >>> > -- >>> > ----------------------- >>> > Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue >>> > Kerem Gümrükcü >>> > Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ >>> > Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de >>> > ----------------------- >>> > "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." >>> > "Alexander Grigoriev" <> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >>> > news:... >>> >> 1. Check your system memory for stability (good memory test, not just >>> >> POST) >>> >> 2. That could be your video driver misbehaving. Or some crapware >>> >> hooked >>> >> to your video drover (remote access?) >>> >> >>> >> "Kerem Gümrükcü" <> wrote in message >>> >> news:%23A%23wT$... >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> this speaks for itself: >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr1.jpg >>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr2.jpg >>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr3.jpg >>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr4.jpg >>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr5.jpg >>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr6.jpg >>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr7.jpg >>> >>> >>> >>> How this happened: I wanted to send System to Hbernation Mode, >>> >>> but it was not able to enter this state: No Error Log Entries, no >>> >>> Messages, it just turned from "Preparing for Hibernation,..." to >>> >>> this Window. Interessting is that you can see in a Screenshot that >>> >>> everything is rendered false except the disabled MenuItems on >>> >>> Menus. Why only disabled items are drawn correctly. An why >>> >>> can the content from Internet Explorer be drawn correctly? >>> >>> Every Application started after this fault has totally destroyed >>> >>> Character repesentation and Consoles write their buffers also >>> >>> false and randomly as you can see. I had to restart the complete >>> >>> System to get a usefull state. If i wouldn't be that familliar with >>> >>> the OS and MS Paint i couldnt make these screeenshots and >>> >>> save them, since you can read nothing on any window or menu >>> >>> items,... >>> >>> >>> >>> Oh yes, why will the content from FreeMath rendered successfully >>> >>> and other apps not? >>> >>> >>> >>> Its OT but maybe someone is interessted in it and also can expplain >>> >>> me what and why this happens,...OS is SP3 WinXPPro, you propably >>> >>> already figured this out from the Screenshots,.. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Kerem >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ----------------------- >>> >>> Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue >>> >>> Kerem Gümrükcü >>> >>> Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ >>> >>> Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de >>> >>> ----------------------- >>> >>> "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >> > |
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reading you post again lead me to this question: If the limit is arround 10000 objects/handles, so why the os fails that way and just simply does not allow the creation of new object instances or notifies the user about something like "Out of GDI Objects". I mean this would be much better that rendering the complete UI useless,...or it should only fail the applications that requested the GDI Objects.. >Gdi and User handle should be monitorable via perf-mon. >Their limit is around 10000 per process and 64000 per session Why is this limited? Wouldnt be a "Allocate until there is no more capacity" Strategy much better than limiting this.Trying to exceed that limit should just fail for the callers of the code that requested handles to objects,... Regards Kerem -- ----------------------- Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue Kerem Gümrükcü Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de ----------------------- "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." "Ivan Brugiolo [MSFT]" <> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:6F36F36A-22BE-4F9E-99A8-... > Gdi and User handle should be monitorable via perf-mon. > Their limit is around 10000 per process and 64000 per session. > > Desktop-Heap should be monitorable with a tool called dheapmon. > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/184802 should be a good reading. > For the general issue, this should also be a recomended reading. > http://blogs.msdn.com/ntdebugging/ar...-overview.aspx > > For the session space exhaustion, if you are on WinXp/Win2003-32-bit, > there are no magic tools that I'm aware of, short of debugging > the Mm structures in KD. > While I do not have a good idea why hibernation is triggering the issue, > I have debugged quite a few session space exhaustion, where either > the creation of a large bitmap was failing, or, the mere existence of > very large display driver was killing the contiguous space of session > space, > and, session space fragmentation was preventing all but small operations > from completing. > > -- > -- > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > rights. > Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified at > http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm > > > "Ken Snyder" <> wrote in message > news:%... >> Hi Ivan, >> >>>The fact that you have a mirror driver would make me think of the 4th >>>one. >> >> at the Time this happened, the driver neither was started nor loaded >> in any way in the systems user/kernelspace, in fact it was just a binary >> located somewhere on the hard disk. The point is, that i did a call to >> SetSystemPowerState (hibernate,force), the system started to prepare >> for this and suddenly returned to that surface what you saw. No >> MessageBox, >> schowing any "Driver did not allow to set state xyz" or something like >> that. >> But why and what has happened that made any characters and any sort of >> drawing text gone, especially the console subsystem. What happened >> internally there? What is the Limit of USER/GDI/DESKTOP/SESSION >> Objects/Handles? I do have lots of physical memory (i mean if not there >> is >> virtual space, no matter how much physical you have!) But i do not have >> lots of paging access while working, anyway, whats the Limit of these >> objects >> and on what does this depend,...and what do i have to take care/measure >> to avoid such situations,...i guess there is no indicator for this,..am i >> right? >> >> >> Regards >> >> Kerem >> >> -- >> -- >> ----------------------- >> Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue >> Kerem Gümrükcü >> Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ >> Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de >> ----------------------- >> "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." >> >> "Ivan Brugiolo [MSFT]" <> schrieb im >> Newsbeitrag news:545DB2A6-61E4-484D-BCB0-... >>> The images shown would make me think of GDI handle exhaustion, >>> USER handle exhaustion, Desktop-Heap exhaustion, or, Session-Space >>> exhausion. >>> The fact that you have a mirror driver would make me think of the 4th >>> one. >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >> rights. >>> Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified at >>> http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm >>> >>> >>> "Kerem Gümrükcü" <> wrote in message >>> news:... >>> > Hi Alexander, >>> > >>> >>1. Check your system memory for stability (good memory test, not just >>> >>POST) >>> > >>> > My recommendation for everybody: >>> > http://www.memtest.org/ >>> > >>> > I checked memory even yesterday,..really! No Problems,... >>> > >>> >>2. That could be your video driver misbehaving. Or some crapware >>> >>hooked >> to >>> >>your video drover (remote access?) >>> > >>> > The only video driver attached to the system except >>> > the primary video driver is UltraVNC Video Driver >>> > and there was never ever a problem with it at least >>> > on my system. Here is some Version info: >>> > >>> > C:\Programme\verinfo>verinfo C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys >>> > >>> > File Version Info for: >>> > "C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys" >>> > >>> > [FileName] >>> > -- C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys -- >>> > [Language] >>> > -- Sprachneutral -- >>> > [Comments] >>> > -- "No Information Available" -- >>> > [CompanyName] >>> > -- RDV Soft -- >>> > [FileDescription] >>> > -- Ultravnc Mirror Driver -- >>> > [FileVersion] >>> > -- 1.00.17 -- >>> > [InternalName] >>> > -- vncdrv.sys -- >>> > [LegalCopyright] >>> > -- RDV Soft -- >>> > [LegalTrademarks] >>> > -- "No Information Available" -- >>> > [OriginalFilename] >>> > -- vncdrv.sys -- >>> > [ProductName] >>> > -- UltraVnc Mirror Driver -- >>> > [ProductVersion] >>> > -- 1.00.17 -- >>> > [PrivateBuild] >>> > -- "No Information Available" -- >>> > [SpecialBuild] >>> > -- "No Information Available" -- >>> > [Checksums] >>> > -- Header Sum: 65670 -- >>> > -- Computed Sum: 65670 -- >>> > [ImageExtraInfo] >>> > -- Image Characteristics: 270 -- >>> > -- Machine: 332 -- >>> > -- Subsystem: 1 -- >>> > -- Major Linker Version: 7 -- >>> > -- Minor Linker Version: 10 -- >>> > -- Minor Image Version: 5 -- >>> > -- Minor Image Version: 0 -- >>> > -- Major Operating System Version: 5 -- >>> > -- Minor Operating System Version: 0 -- >>> > -- Major Subsystem Version: 5 -- >>> > -- Minor Subsystem Version: 0 -- >>> > -- Image Magic: 267 -- >>> > -- Image Checksum: 65670 -- >>> > -- Image Dll Characteristics: 1024 -- >>> > >>> > >>> > Even it was not loaded and/or activated while this happened,... >>> > >>> > Regards >>> > >>> > Kerem >>> > >>> > -- >>> > ----------------------- >>> > Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue >>> > Kerem Gümrükcü >>> > Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ >>> > Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de >>> > ----------------------- >>> > "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." >>> > "Alexander Grigoriev" <> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >>> > news:... >>> >> 1. Check your system memory for stability (good memory test, not just >>> >> POST) >>> >> 2. That could be your video driver misbehaving. Or some crapware >>> >> hooked >>> >> to your video drover (remote access?) >>> >> >>> >> "Kerem Gümrükcü" <> wrote in message >>> >> news:%23A%23wT$... >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> this speaks for itself: >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr1.jpg >>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr2.jpg >>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr3.jpg >>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr4.jpg >>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr5.jpg >>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr6.jpg >>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr7.jpg >>> >>> >>> >>> How this happened: I wanted to send System to Hbernation Mode, >>> >>> but it was not able to enter this state: No Error Log Entries, no >>> >>> Messages, it just turned from "Preparing for Hibernation,..." to >>> >>> this Window. Interessting is that you can see in a Screenshot that >>> >>> everything is rendered false except the disabled MenuItems on >>> >>> Menus. Why only disabled items are drawn correctly. An why >>> >>> can the content from Internet Explorer be drawn correctly? >>> >>> Every Application started after this fault has totally destroyed >>> >>> Character repesentation and Consoles write their buffers also >>> >>> false and randomly as you can see. I had to restart the complete >>> >>> System to get a usefull state. If i wouldn't be that familliar with >>> >>> the OS and MS Paint i couldnt make these screeenshots and >>> >>> save them, since you can read nothing on any window or menu >>> >>> items,... >>> >>> >>> >>> Oh yes, why will the content from FreeMath rendered successfully >>> >>> and other apps not? >>> >>> >>> >>> Its OT but maybe someone is interessted in it and also can expplain >>> >>> me what and why this happens,...OS is SP3 WinXPPro, you propably >>> >>> already figured this out from the Screenshots,.. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Kerem >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ----------------------- >>> >>> Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue >>> >>> Kerem Gümrükcü >>> >>> Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ >>> >>> Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de >>> >>> ----------------------- >>> >>> "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >> > |
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Well, I usually see picture like this, when some driver is leaking nonpaged
memory ... -- V. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Kerem Gümrükcü" <> wrote in message news:... > Hi Ivan, > > reading you post again lead me to this question: If > the limit is arround 10000 objects/handles, so why > the os fails that way and just simply does not allow > the creation of new object instances or notifies the > user about something like "Out of GDI Objects". > I mean this would be much better that rendering the > complete UI useless,...or it should only fail the applications > that requested the GDI Objects.. > >>Gdi and User handle should be monitorable via perf-mon. >>Their limit is around 10000 per process and 64000 per session > > Why is this limited? Wouldnt be a "Allocate until there is no more > capacity" Strategy much better than limiting this.Trying to exceed > that limit should just fail for the callers of the code that requested > handles to objects,... > > > Regards > > Kerem > > -- > ----------------------- > Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue > Kerem Gümrükcü > Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ > Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de > ----------------------- > "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." > "Ivan Brugiolo [MSFT]" <> schrieb im > Newsbeitrag news:6F36F36A-22BE-4F9E-99A8-... >> Gdi and User handle should be monitorable via perf-mon. >> Their limit is around 10000 per process and 64000 per session. >> >> Desktop-Heap should be monitorable with a tool called dheapmon. >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/184802 should be a good reading. >> For the general issue, this should also be a recomended reading. >> http://blogs.msdn.com/ntdebugging/ar...-overview.aspx >> >> For the session space exhaustion, if you are on WinXp/Win2003-32-bit, >> there are no magic tools that I'm aware of, short of debugging >> the Mm structures in KD. >> While I do not have a good idea why hibernation is triggering the issue, >> I have debugged quite a few session space exhaustion, where either >> the creation of a large bitmap was failing, or, the mere existence of >> very large display driver was killing the contiguous space of session >> space, >> and, session space fragmentation was preventing all but small operations >> from completing. >> >> -- >> -- >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >> rights. >> Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified at >> http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm >> >> >> "Ken Snyder" <> wrote in message >> news:%... >>> Hi Ivan, >>> >>>>The fact that you have a mirror driver would make me think of the 4th >>>>one. >>> >>> at the Time this happened, the driver neither was started nor loaded >>> in any way in the systems user/kernelspace, in fact it was just a binary >>> located somewhere on the hard disk. The point is, that i did a call to >>> SetSystemPowerState (hibernate,force), the system started to prepare >>> for this and suddenly returned to that surface what you saw. No >>> MessageBox, >>> schowing any "Driver did not allow to set state xyz" or something like >>> that. >>> But why and what has happened that made any characters and any sort of >>> drawing text gone, especially the console subsystem. What happened >>> internally there? What is the Limit of USER/GDI/DESKTOP/SESSION >>> Objects/Handles? I do have lots of physical memory (i mean if not there >>> is >>> virtual space, no matter how much physical you have!) But i do not have >>> lots of paging access while working, anyway, whats the Limit of these >>> objects >>> and on what does this depend,...and what do i have to take care/measure >>> to avoid such situations,...i guess there is no indicator for this,..am >>> i >>> right? >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Kerem >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> ----------------------- >>> Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue >>> Kerem Gümrükcü >>> Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ >>> Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de >>> ----------------------- >>> "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." >>> >>> "Ivan Brugiolo [MSFT]" <> schrieb im >>> Newsbeitrag news:545DB2A6-61E4-484D-BCB0-... >>>> The images shown would make me think of GDI handle exhaustion, >>>> USER handle exhaustion, Desktop-Heap exhaustion, or, Session-Space >>>> exhausion. >>>> The fact that you have a mirror driver would make me think of the 4th >>>> one. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >>> rights. >>>> Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified >>>> at >>>> http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> "Kerem Gümrükcü" <> wrote in message >>>> news:... >>>> > Hi Alexander, >>>> > >>>> >>1. Check your system memory for stability (good memory test, not just >>>> >>POST) >>>> > >>>> > My recommendation for everybody: >>>> > http://www.memtest.org/ >>>> > >>>> > I checked memory even yesterday,..really! No Problems,... >>>> > >>>> >>2. That could be your video driver misbehaving. Or some crapware >>>> >>hooked >>> to >>>> >>your video drover (remote access?) >>>> > >>>> > The only video driver attached to the system except >>>> > the primary video driver is UltraVNC Video Driver >>>> > and there was never ever a problem with it at least >>>> > on my system. Here is some Version info: >>>> > >>>> > C:\Programme\verinfo>verinfo C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys >>>> > >>>> > File Version Info for: >>>> > "C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys" >>>> > >>>> > [FileName] >>>> > -- C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys -- >>>> > [Language] >>>> > -- Sprachneutral -- >>>> > [Comments] >>>> > -- "No Information Available" -- >>>> > [CompanyName] >>>> > -- RDV Soft -- >>>> > [FileDescription] >>>> > -- Ultravnc Mirror Driver -- >>>> > [FileVersion] >>>> > -- 1.00.17 -- >>>> > [InternalName] >>>> > -- vncdrv.sys -- >>>> > [LegalCopyright] >>>> > -- RDV Soft -- >>>> > [LegalTrademarks] >>>> > -- "No Information Available" -- >>>> > [OriginalFilename] >>>> > -- vncdrv.sys -- >>>> > [ProductName] >>>> > -- UltraVnc Mirror Driver -- >>>> > [ProductVersion] >>>> > -- 1.00.17 -- >>>> > [PrivateBuild] >>>> > -- "No Information Available" -- >>>> > [SpecialBuild] >>>> > -- "No Information Available" -- >>>> > [Checksums] >>>> > -- Header Sum: 65670 -- >>>> > -- Computed Sum: 65670 -- >>>> > [ImageExtraInfo] >>>> > -- Image Characteristics: 270 -- >>>> > -- Machine: 332 -- >>>> > -- Subsystem: 1 -- >>>> > -- Major Linker Version: 7 -- >>>> > -- Minor Linker Version: 10 -- >>>> > -- Minor Image Version: 5 -- >>>> > -- Minor Image Version: 0 -- >>>> > -- Major Operating System Version: 5 -- >>>> > -- Minor Operating System Version: 0 -- >>>> > -- Major Subsystem Version: 5 -- >>>> > -- Minor Subsystem Version: 0 -- >>>> > -- Image Magic: 267 -- >>>> > -- Image Checksum: 65670 -- >>>> > -- Image Dll Characteristics: 1024 -- >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Even it was not loaded and/or activated while this happened,... >>>> > >>>> > Regards >>>> > >>>> > Kerem >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > ----------------------- >>>> > Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue >>>> > Kerem Gümrükcü >>>> > Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ >>>> > Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de >>>> > ----------------------- >>>> > "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." >>>> > "Alexander Grigoriev" <> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >>>> > news:... >>>> >> 1. Check your system memory for stability (good memory test, not >>>> >> just >>>> >> POST) >>>> >> 2. That could be your video driver misbehaving. Or some crapware >>>> >> hooked >>>> >> to your video drover (remote access?) >>>> >> >>>> >> "Kerem Gümrükcü" <> wrote in message >>>> >> news:%23A%23wT$... >>>> >>> Hi, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> this speaks for itself: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr1.jpg >>>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr2.jpg >>>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr3.jpg >>>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr4.jpg >>>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr5.jpg >>>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr6.jpg >>>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr7.jpg >>>> >>> >>>> >>> How this happened: I wanted to send System to Hbernation Mode, >>>> >>> but it was not able to enter this state: No Error Log Entries, no >>>> >>> Messages, it just turned from "Preparing for Hibernation,..." to >>>> >>> this Window. Interessting is that you can see in a Screenshot that >>>> >>> everything is rendered false except the disabled MenuItems on >>>> >>> Menus. Why only disabled items are drawn correctly. An why >>>> >>> can the content from Internet Explorer be drawn correctly? >>>> >>> Every Application started after this fault has totally destroyed >>>> >>> Character repesentation and Consoles write their buffers also >>>> >>> false and randomly as you can see. I had to restart the complete >>>> >>> System to get a usefull state. If i wouldn't be that familliar with >>>> >>> the OS and MS Paint i couldnt make these screeenshots and >>>> >>> save them, since you can read nothing on any window or menu >>>> >>> items,... >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Oh yes, why will the content from FreeMath rendered successfully >>>> >>> and other apps not? >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Its OT but maybe someone is interessted in it and also can expplain >>>> >>> me what and why this happens,...OS is SP3 WinXPPro, you propably >>>> >>> already figured this out from the Screenshots,.. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Regards >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Kerem >>>> >>> >>>> >>> -- >>>> >>> ----------------------- >>>> >>> Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue >>>> >>> Kerem Gümrükcü >>>> >>> Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ >>>> >>> Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de >>>> >>> ----------------------- >>>> >>> "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or >>>> >>> implied." >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >>> >>> >> > |
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Hi V.
i dont know what is hapenning to my system the last days, but it really freaks out. Ten minutes ago, i got this while resuking from hibernation: KERNEL_STACK_INPAGE_ERROR (77) The requested page of kernel data could not be read in. Caused by bad block in paging file or disk controller error. In the case when the first arguments is 0 or 1, the stack signature in the kernel stack was not found. Again, bad hardware. An I/O status of c000009c (STATUS_DEVICE_DATA_ERROR) or C000016AL (STATUS_DISK_OPERATION_FAILED) normally indicates the data could not be read from the disk due to a bad block. Upon reboot autocheck will run and attempt to map out the bad sector. If the status is C0000185 (STATUS_IO_DEVICE_ERROR) and the paging file is on a SCSI disk device, then the cabling and termination should be checked. See the knowledge base article on SCSI termination. Arguments: Arg1: 00000001, (page was retrieved from disk) Arg2: 00000000, value found in stack where signature should be Arg3: 00000000, 0 Arg4: f2e6b95c, address of signature on kernel stack MODULE_NAME: nt FAULTING_MODULE: 804d7000 nt DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 48025eab ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0x1 - STATUS_WAIT_1 BUGCHECK_STR: 0x77_1 DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: WRONG_SYMBOLS LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 80521007 to 8053380e STACK_TEXT: WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong. f7914d68 80521007 00000077 00000001 00000000 nt!KeBugCheckEx+0x1b f7914d8c 804e6b41 003dbda8 00000000 86bbf838 nt!IoSetFileOrigin+0x9043 f7914da4 804e6b24 863dbe08 8057aeff 00000000 nt!KeResetEvent+0x256 f7914ddc 804f88ea 804e6aa0 00000000 00000000 nt!KeResetEvent+0x239 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 nt!KeInitializeTimer+0x107 Now i think, its time for a chkdsk on the system. Regards Kerem -- ----------------------- Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue Kerem Gümrükcü Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de ----------------------- "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." "Volodymyr M. Shcherbyna" <> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:... > Well, I usually see picture like this, when some driver is leaking > nonpaged memory ... > > -- > V. > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > rights. > "Kerem Gümrükcü" <> wrote in message > news:... >> Hi Ivan, >> >> reading you post again lead me to this question: If >> the limit is arround 10000 objects/handles, so why >> the os fails that way and just simply does not allow >> the creation of new object instances or notifies the >> user about something like "Out of GDI Objects". >> I mean this would be much better that rendering the >> complete UI useless,...or it should only fail the applications >> that requested the GDI Objects.. >> >>>Gdi and User handle should be monitorable via perf-mon. >>>Their limit is around 10000 per process and 64000 per session >> >> Why is this limited? Wouldnt be a "Allocate until there is no more >> capacity" Strategy much better than limiting this.Trying to exceed >> that limit should just fail for the callers of the code that requested >> handles to objects,... >> >> >> Regards >> >> Kerem >> >> -- >> ----------------------- >> Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue >> Kerem Gümrükcü >> Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ >> Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de >> ----------------------- >> "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." >> "Ivan Brugiolo [MSFT]" <> schrieb im >> Newsbeitrag news:6F36F36A-22BE-4F9E-99A8-... >>> Gdi and User handle should be monitorable via perf-mon. >>> Their limit is around 10000 per process and 64000 per session. >>> >>> Desktop-Heap should be monitorable with a tool called dheapmon. >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/184802 should be a good reading. >>> For the general issue, this should also be a recomended reading. >>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ntdebugging/ar...-overview.aspx >>> >>> For the session space exhaustion, if you are on WinXp/Win2003-32-bit, >>> there are no magic tools that I'm aware of, short of debugging >>> the Mm structures in KD. >>> While I do not have a good idea why hibernation is triggering the issue, >>> I have debugged quite a few session space exhaustion, where either >>> the creation of a large bitmap was failing, or, the mere existence of >>> very large display driver was killing the contiguous space of session >>> space, >>> and, session space fragmentation was preventing all but small operations >>> from completing. >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >>> rights. >>> Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified at >>> http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm >>> >>> >>> "Ken Snyder" <> wrote in message >>> news:%... >>>> Hi Ivan, >>>> >>>>>The fact that you have a mirror driver would make me think of the 4th >>>>>one. >>>> >>>> at the Time this happened, the driver neither was started nor loaded >>>> in any way in the systems user/kernelspace, in fact it was just a >>>> binary >>>> located somewhere on the hard disk. The point is, that i did a call to >>>> SetSystemPowerState (hibernate,force), the system started to prepare >>>> for this and suddenly returned to that surface what you saw. No >>>> MessageBox, >>>> schowing any "Driver did not allow to set state xyz" or something like >>>> that. >>>> But why and what has happened that made any characters and any sort of >>>> drawing text gone, especially the console subsystem. What happened >>>> internally there? What is the Limit of USER/GDI/DESKTOP/SESSION >>>> Objects/Handles? I do have lots of physical memory (i mean if not there >>>> is >>>> virtual space, no matter how much physical you have!) But i do not have >>>> lots of paging access while working, anyway, whats the Limit of these >>>> objects >>>> and on what does this depend,...and what do i have to take care/measure >>>> to avoid such situations,...i guess there is no indicator for this,..am >>>> i >>>> right? >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Kerem >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> ----------------------- >>>> Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue >>>> Kerem Gümrükcü >>>> Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ >>>> Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de >>>> ----------------------- >>>> "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." >>>> >>>> "Ivan Brugiolo [MSFT]" <> schrieb im >>>> Newsbeitrag news:545DB2A6-61E4-484D-BCB0-... >>>>> The images shown would make me think of GDI handle exhaustion, >>>>> USER handle exhaustion, Desktop-Heap exhaustion, or, Session-Space >>>>> exhausion. >>>>> The fact that you have a mirror driver would make me think of the 4th >>>>> one. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >>>> rights. >>>>> Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified >>>>> at >>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Kerem Gümrükcü" <> wrote in message >>>>> news:... >>>>> > Hi Alexander, >>>>> > >>>>> >>1. Check your system memory for stability (good memory test, not >>>>> >>just >>>>> >>POST) >>>>> > >>>>> > My recommendation for everybody: >>>>> > http://www.memtest.org/ >>>>> > >>>>> > I checked memory even yesterday,..really! No Problems,... >>>>> > >>>>> >>2. That could be your video driver misbehaving. Or some crapware >>>>> >>hooked >>>> to >>>>> >>your video drover (remote access?) >>>>> > >>>>> > The only video driver attached to the system except >>>>> > the primary video driver is UltraVNC Video Driver >>>>> > and there was never ever a problem with it at least >>>>> > on my system. Here is some Version info: >>>>> > >>>>> > C:\Programme\verinfo>verinfo C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys >>>>> > >>>>> > File Version Info for: >>>>> > "C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys" >>>>> > >>>>> > [FileName] >>>>> > -- C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\vncdrv.sys -- >>>>> > [Language] >>>>> > -- Sprachneutral -- >>>>> > [Comments] >>>>> > -- "No Information Available" -- >>>>> > [CompanyName] >>>>> > -- RDV Soft -- >>>>> > [FileDescription] >>>>> > -- Ultravnc Mirror Driver -- >>>>> > [FileVersion] >>>>> > -- 1.00.17 -- >>>>> > [InternalName] >>>>> > -- vncdrv.sys -- >>>>> > [LegalCopyright] >>>>> > -- RDV Soft -- >>>>> > [LegalTrademarks] >>>>> > -- "No Information Available" -- >>>>> > [OriginalFilename] >>>>> > -- vncdrv.sys -- >>>>> > [ProductName] >>>>> > -- UltraVnc Mirror Driver -- >>>>> > [ProductVersion] >>>>> > -- 1.00.17 -- >>>>> > [PrivateBuild] >>>>> > -- "No Information Available" -- >>>>> > [SpecialBuild] >>>>> > -- "No Information Available" -- >>>>> > [Checksums] >>>>> > -- Header Sum: 65670 -- >>>>> > -- Computed Sum: 65670 -- >>>>> > [ImageExtraInfo] >>>>> > -- Image Characteristics: 270 -- >>>>> > -- Machine: 332 -- >>>>> > -- Subsystem: 1 -- >>>>> > -- Major Linker Version: 7 -- >>>>> > -- Minor Linker Version: 10 -- >>>>> > -- Minor Image Version: 5 -- >>>>> > -- Minor Image Version: 0 -- >>>>> > -- Major Operating System Version: 5 -- >>>>> > -- Minor Operating System Version: 0 -- >>>>> > -- Major Subsystem Version: 5 -- >>>>> > -- Minor Subsystem Version: 0 -- >>>>> > -- Image Magic: 267 -- >>>>> > -- Image Checksum: 65670 -- >>>>> > -- Image Dll Characteristics: 1024 -- >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Even it was not loaded and/or activated while this happened,... >>>>> > >>>>> > Regards >>>>> > >>>>> > Kerem >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > ----------------------- >>>>> > Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue >>>>> > Kerem Gümrükcü >>>>> > Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ >>>>> > Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de >>>>> > ----------------------- >>>>> > "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." >>>>> > "Alexander Grigoriev" <> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >>>>> > news:... >>>>> >> 1. Check your system memory for stability (good memory test, not >>>>> >> just >>>>> >> POST) >>>>> >> 2. That could be your video driver misbehaving. Or some crapware >>>>> >> hooked >>>>> >> to your video drover (remote access?) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> "Kerem Gümrükcü" <> wrote in message >>>>> >> news:%23A%23wT$... >>>>> >>> Hi, >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> this speaks for itself: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr1.jpg >>>>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr2.jpg >>>>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr3.jpg >>>>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr4.jpg >>>>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr5.jpg >>>>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr6.jpg >>>>> >>> http://www.pro-it-education.de/staff...sc/gdierr7.jpg >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> How this happened: I wanted to send System to Hbernation Mode, >>>>> >>> but it was not able to enter this state: No Error Log Entries, no >>>>> >>> Messages, it just turned from "Preparing for Hibernation,..." to >>>>> >>> this Window. Interessting is that you can see in a Screenshot that >>>>> >>> everything is rendered false except the disabled MenuItems on >>>>> >>> Menus. Why only disabled items are drawn correctly. An why >>>>> >>> can the content from Internet Explorer be drawn correctly? >>>>> >>> Every Application started after this fault has totally destroyed >>>>> >>> Character repesentation and Consoles write their buffers also >>>>> >>> false and randomly as you can see. I had to restart the complete >>>>> >>> System to get a usefull state. If i wouldn't be that familliar >>>>> >>> with >>>>> >>> the OS and MS Paint i couldnt make these screeenshots and >>>>> >>> save them, since you can read nothing on any window or menu >>>>> >>> items,... >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Oh yes, why will the content from FreeMath rendered successfully >>>>> >>> and other apps not? >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Its OT but maybe someone is interessted in it and also can >>>>> >>> expplain >>>>> >>> me what and why this happens,...OS is SP3 WinXPPro, you propably >>>>> >>> already figured this out from the Screenshots,.. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Regards >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Kerem >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> -- >>>>> >>> ----------------------- >>>>> >>> Beste Grüsse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue >>>>> >>> Kerem Gümrükcü >>>>> >>> Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ >>>>> >>> Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de >>>>> >>> ----------------------- >>>>> >>> "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or >>>>> >>> implied." >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > |
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