Peter--
Really? You failed to provide the specific solution "that remains with
Outlook" then. In my experience regardless of what you do with add-ins, if
you disable them or don't have any of them or any of the apps mentioned,
Outlook's process will persist on Vista.
***To me, it doesn't matter if the OS is contributing to the issue.*** The
fact is on a dual boot machine with OL 2007, I don't see the problem on the
XP boot. I do on Vista about 20% of the time when I close so I go to TM and
close it. So whether it's an Outlook problem or a Vista problem, since the
solution dealing with add-ins doesn't do the trick for many many users,
what's your purely Outlook centered solution then?It's not fixed by "Office
Diagnostics." I'm pretty familiar with ways to fix Outlook and get it to do
what I need.
"If you read Roberts article from the link that Gerald has posted it is not
the OS that is causing this issue."
I had read it long ago. It doesn't work ***for the vast majority of people
who have Outlook's process still persisting on Vista and don't have ANY
add-ins. It'd be nice if it did but it doesn't.
If you read my post you know that
1) I've been monitoring MSFTOutlook groups for years as well as
www.slipstick.com and
www.officezealot.com and many of the Outlook MVPs
individual sites.
2) I read Roberts' solution and have seen similar solutions on the Outlook
groups. They often don't work.
3) For many Outlook users on Vista, regardless of whether they have the
Outlook Connector from MSFT, many other add-ins developed by MSFT, the
google search add-in, the Live Search Map Add-in or none of them, Outlook's
process remains open and not all the time. Sometimes the process will shut
correctly. Outlook's gui will always shut down in my experience, but some of
the time the process remains running. I've adapted to the the literally
couple hundred times in a multi-houred session I have to click a couple of
UAC boxes just to run a snap-in or MMC app like Event Viewer--so it's no
biggy for my to click the minimized task man and kill Outlook and as I said
Win Mail often when I shut them down.
Again, I frequently monitor the Outlook groups and have contributed
solutions to them many times over the years when I see a particularly vexing
problem that I've dealt with and others are having, and I would love to see
you --besides the "disable the add-ins" solution which doesn't work for many
people tell me explicitly what you think I need to do vis a vis Outlook 2007
to keep the process from running (about 20% of the time BEFORE ADD-INS were
ever added) when it's shut down. I haven't seen the solution yet on the
newsgroups and again it's not the solution that was posted from Robert
Sparnaaij's site to disable add-ins.
Thanks,
CH
"Peter Foldes" <> wrote in message
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Chad
I understand your point Chad but the issue with Outlook (which is a office
app as you know) that the OP is experiencing(shutting down OL) has nothing
to do with any OS be it Vista,XP,W2K3 etc. This is a Office issue and mainly
a OL issue. It has been brought up in the Office Outlook newsgroups many
times and where I also post and has been noted also with XP,W2K3, W98 and
of course Vista
When closing OL and the suite does not close the issue remains with OL and
not with the OS
If you read Roberts article from the link that Gerald has posted it is not
the OS that is causing this issue.
Anyway Chad I respectfully disagree with you that the OS causes this issue.
I guess we both have our opinions
Thanks Chad
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"Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote in message
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> Peter--
>
> I'd respectfully disagree. I do understand there is an OS called Vista;
> and
> that there is a cash cow in its 12th version called Office, but the OP
> raised a very common problem. It's my understanding that in order to run
> Outlook you have to load it onto an OS--If you know the way to run the 27
> or
> so Office related apps and servers without an OS please post it.
>
> In a pure world perhaps, people would post on subspecialty groups with
> perfect specificity, but they don't and won't, and in this case the
> problem
> is one of the integration of the Office app on the Windows Vista OS. It's
> just easier to answer their questions, however this is not a pure Outlook
> problem in fact. It also exists with Win Mail that ships with Vista.
>
> It's very common on Vista for Outlook's process to keep running in the
> background, and the add-ins cited in Gerald's link aren't the ony add-ins
> that cause this. Outlook has its own add-ins by MSFT and even before any
> of
> them were added I noticed throughout the Beta and in RTM you simply have
> to
> put up with going to Task Man and closing the process. This applies to
> Win
> Mail as well.
>
> The site Gerald posted is an excellent Outlook site from Robert Sparnaaij
> who has been a prolific Outlook MVP helper on the Outlook groups.
>
> It's simply one more Vista (not Outlook) defect that it shipped with and
> there are many. Control Panel Instability is another frequent one I see
> 3-4
> times on this group.
>
> Around September to November at Redmond, there was panic in the air and
> Sinofsky and his generals told Allchin's PMs and Testers and Developers
> to
> shut it and ship it--warts and all and they did.
>
> It's not been corrected by any means by the stability and performance
> updates here:
>
> Update for Windows Vista (KB938194)
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/i...splayLang%3den
>
> Update for Windows Vista (KB938979)
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/i...splayLang%3den
>
> I think the OP got a pretty comprehensive and correct answer, but part of
> a
> comprehensive and correct answer is that Outlook's process will run,
> whether
> their are 3rd party add-ins or MSFT Add-ins eliminated. It's just one of
> the Vista warts.
>
> CH
>
>
> "Peter Foldes" <> wrote in message
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> Akuna
>
> First of all Outlook has nothing to do with Vista. It is an Office suite
> and
> thus has to be addressed in the microsoft.public.outlook newsgroup.
>
> Please repost this to the Outlook newsgroup for a more comprehensive and
> correct answer
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...utlook.general.
>
>
> --
> Peter
>
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>
> "Akuna" <> wrote in message
> news:390E8434-4597-4005-9431-...
>> Has MS come up with a solution yet to the problem of shutting down the
>> "Outlook" process when the program is exited? I'm tired of using "Task
>> Manager"! After paying all the money I have for Vista, this is
>> inexcusable.
>> It is the only application that I use that will not remove itself from
>> the
>> process list.
>
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