Pardon my bluntness, but...

I am seeing all these errors with the February critical updates, then
I am seeing posts to go to such-and-such site to find out how to
_repair_ what MS update did to your computer.

Question: Why doesn't MS just make available an update that works??

I'm not downloading _any_ updates (especially the Windoes XP ones)
until I am _totally_ confident that:

a. I won't lose my internet connection
b. Won't have to visit 10 sites to correct _their_
error
c. Am confident that my anti-virus will still _work_ after an
update.
d. I'll take my chances on what I have now. To hell with MS.
Who do they think they are: God???

Then you will never install any updates.
If you apply a similar standard to other programs from any manufacturer, you
also will never install anything else---EVER.

The updates seem bad largely for a few reasons:
Windows is used on a LARGE number of computers.
This newsgroup is primarily to solve problems so it is expected there will
be problems brought here.
Go to a hospital and judge the health of the human race solely by what is
observed there.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"newswatcher" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I am seeing all these errors with the February critical updates, then
> I am seeing posts to go to such-and-such site to find out how to
> _repair_ what MS update did to your computer.
>
> Question: Why doesn't MS just make available an update that works??
>
> I'm not downloading _any_ updates (especially the Windoes XP ones)
> until I am _totally_ confident that:
>
> a. I won't lose my internet connection
> b. Won't have to visit 10 sites to correct _their_
> error
> c. Am confident that my anti-virus will still _work_ after an
> update.
> d. I'll take my chances on what I have now. To hell with MS.
> Who do they think they are: God???

What kind of crap is that: comparing a hospital to this newsgroup?
You insult all here in that case. I have installed past updates, since
last May, with no problems. If my computer gets messed-up due to this
updates and I can't _even_ get_ to this newsgroup, or the internet for
that matter, how good is it for help? I see only problems and no
successes here. How about you?

BTW, if one of the largest and richest companies in the world, which
"is used on a LARGE number of computers" can't look ahead and
read the user's machine and _give_the_right_updates, then the
company is at fault, not the customer/user. I bought the software. I
expect them to at least make an effort to remedy the problems. Is that
too much to ask?

I notice you, Jones, help a lot. That's good. What's not good is that
you have to help, on your own time. Doesn't it p*ss you off sometimes?

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:42:38 -0700, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
<> wrote:

>Then you will never install any updates.
>If you apply a similar standard to other programs from any manufacturer, you
>also will never install anything else---EVER.
>
>The updates seem bad largely for a few reasons:
>Windows is used on a LARGE number of computers.
>This newsgroup is primarily to solve problems so it is expected there will
>be problems brought here.
>Go to a hospital and judge the health of the human race solely by what is
>observed there.

"effort to remedy the problems"
Is a long way from "totally_ confident"
The later suggests perfection which is simply not possible.

As for the hospital comparison, that is a fair comparison.
People bring their computer health issues here.
People bring their personal health issues to a hospital.
Neither place is a good place to use to make judgements about the health of
either.
In both, the healthy are less likely to visit.

No, I am not bothered by it.
I help to attempt to solve problems regardless the cause.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"newswatcher" <> wrote in message
news:...
> What kind of crap is that: comparing a hospital to this newsgroup?
> You insult all here in that case. I have installed past updates, since
> last May, with no problems. If my computer gets messed-up due to this
> updates and I can't _even_ get_ to this newsgroup, or the internet for
> that matter, how good is it for help? I see only problems and no
> successes here. How about you?
>
> BTW, if one of the largest and richest companies in the world, which
> "is used on a LARGE number of computers" can't look ahead and
> read the user's machine and _give_the_right_updates, then the
> company is at fault, not the customer/user. I bought the software. I
> expect them to at least make an effort to remedy the problems. Is that
> too much to ask?
>
> I notice you, Jones, help a lot. That's good. What's not good is that
> you have to help, on your own time. Doesn't it p*ss you off sometimes?

I never had a problem with Updates and I never post of my success on the latter. Those that do have already some issues with their OS even before they download and install the MS Updates. The failures are so minimal.

Like human nature, nobody sees the good but all see the bad. You also fall into the latter category.

If you do not want to Update that is your privilege. But if something goes wrong with your system you will be one of the 1st ones to say all those things that you posted above in your posts.

Might as well not even open your computer because you will have most of the issues that are posted in this and other newsgroups.

I have no patience for people like you that withdraw to a safe corner because a few said so.



--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"newswatcher" <> wrote in message news:...
> What kind of crap is that: comparing a hospital to this newsgroup?
> You insult all here in that case. I have installed past updates, since
> last May, with no problems. If my computer gets messed-up due to this
> updates and I can't _even_ get_ to this newsgroup, or the internet for
> that matter, how good is it for help? I see only problems and no
> successes here. How about you?
>
> BTW, if one of the largest and richest companies in the world, which
> "is used on a LARGE number of computers" can't look ahead and
> read the user's machine and _give_the_right_updates, then the
> company is at fault, not the customer/user. I bought the software. I
> expect them to at least make an effort to remedy the problems. Is that
> too much to ask?
>
> I notice you, Jones, help a lot. That's good. What's not good is that
> you have to help, on your own time. Doesn't it p*ss you off sometimes?
>
> On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:42:38 -0700, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
> <> wrote:
>
>>Then you will never install any updates.
>>If you apply a similar standard to other programs from any manufacturer, you
>>also will never install anything else---EVER.
>>
>>The updates seem bad largely for a few reasons:
>>Windows is used on a LARGE number of computers.
>>This newsgroup is primarily to solve problems so it is expected there will
>>be problems brought here.
>>Go to a hospital and judge the health of the human race solely by what is
>>observed there.
>

Users do NOT post to this newsgroup to say that they had no problems after
installing updates.
--
~PA Bear

newswatcher wrote:
> I am seeing all these errors with the February critical updates, then
> I am seeing posts to go to such-and-such site to find out how to
> _repair_ what MS update did to your computer.
>
> Question: Why doesn't MS just make available an update that works??
>
> I'm not downloading _any_ updates (especially the Windoes XP ones)
> until I am _totally_ confident that:
>
> a. I won't lose my internet connection
> b. Won't have to visit 10 sites to correct _their_
> error
> c. Am confident that my anti-virus will still _work_ after an
> update.
> d. I'll take my chances on what I have now. To hell with MS.
> Who do they think they are: God???

Well I don't have problems with the updates so have no need to come here
and complain. When you consider the number coming here to the number of
people who don't have problems it's a mere drop in the ocean.
However large the company you cannot hope to know how each person has
their machine set up and what they have running so my view is they do a
pretty good job of keeping everything up to date.
Joan


newswatcher wrote:
>I am seeing all these errors with the February critical updates, then
> I am seeing posts to go to such-and-such site to find out how to
> _repair_ what MS update did to your computer.
>
> Question: Why doesn't MS just make available an update that works??
>
> I'm not downloading _any_ updates (especially the Windoes XP ones)
> until I am _totally_ confident that:
>
> a. I won't lose my internet connection
> b. Won't have to visit 10 sites to correct _their_
> error
> c. Am confident that my anti-virus will still _work_ after an
> update.
> d. I'll take my chances on what I have now. To hell with MS.
> Who do they think they are: God???

dear newswatcher,

thats not bluntness, it's COMMON-SENSE!!!. why do we put-up with this
appauling service from ms. i've been trying to down load windows xp service
pack 3 for months with little success, i cant even find an explination for
the failure code.. and yes i have now given up down loading any more up
dates, they seam to cause more probs than they're worth. good luck x--
not a clue what i''m supposed to be doing here.. lol


"newswatcher" wrote:

> I am seeing all these errors with the February critical updates, then
> I am seeing posts to go to such-and-such site to find out how to
> _repair_ what MS update did to your computer.
>
> Question: Why doesn't MS just make available an update that works??
>
> I'm not downloading _any_ updates (especially the Windoes XP ones)
> until I am _totally_ confident that:
>
> a. I won't lose my internet connection
> b. Won't have to visit 10 sites to correct _their_
> error
> c. Am confident that my anti-virus will still _work_ after an
> update.
> d. I'll take my chances on what I have now. To hell with MS.
> Who do they think they are: God???
>

newswatcher wrote:
> I am seeing all these errors with the February critical updates,
> then I am seeing posts to go to such-and-such site to find out how
> to _repair_ what MS update did to your computer.
>
> Question: Why doesn't MS just make available an update that works??
>
> I'm not downloading _any_ updates (especially the Windoes XP ones)
> until I am _totally_ confident that:
>
> a. I won't lose my internet connection
> b. Won't have to visit 10 sites to correct _their_
> error
> c. Am confident that my anti-virus will still _work_ after an
> update.
> d. I'll take my chances on what I have now. To hell with MS.
> Who do they think they are: God???

sharon wrote:
> thats not bluntness, it's COMMON-SENSE!!!. why do we put-up with
> this appauling service from ms. i've been trying to down load
> windows xp service pack 3 for months with little success, i cant
> even find an explination for the failure code.. and yes i have now
> given up down loading any more up dates, they seam to cause more
> probs than they're worth. good luck x-- not a clue what i''m
> supposed to be doing here.. lol

Hoping Sharon is joking - since Windows XP Service Pack 3 doesn't exist...
If Sharon isn't joking, Sharon is in fine company with "newswatcher".

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Service pack 3 Sharon thats going to start a rush as far as I am aware there
is only a service pack 2 out ( which I still havent managed to download
sussessfully!)

"sharon" wrote:

> dear newswatcher,
>
> thats not bluntness, it's COMMON-SENSE!!!. why do we put-up with this
> appauling service from ms. i've been trying to down load windows xp service
> pack 3 for months with little success, i cant even find an explination for
> the failure code.. and yes i have now given up down loading any more up
> dates, they seam to cause more probs than they're worth. good luck x--
> not a clue what i''m supposed to be doing here.. lol
>
>
> "newswatcher" wrote:
>
> > I am seeing all these errors with the February critical updates, then
> > I am seeing posts to go to such-and-such site to find out how to
> > _repair_ what MS update did to your computer.
> >
> > Question: Why doesn't MS just make available an update that works??
> >
> > I'm not downloading _any_ updates (especially the Windoes XP ones)
> > until I am _totally_ confident that:
> >
> > a. I won't lose my internet connection
> > b. Won't have to visit 10 sites to correct _their_
> > error
> > c. Am confident that my anti-virus will still _work_ after an
> > update.
> > d. I'll take my chances on what I have now. To hell with MS.
> > Who do they think they are: God???
> >