Partition Magic

I am trying to partition my HD which has Vista Home basic in order to create
a install for Linux. On XP, I used Partition Magic which worked well,
however Vista will not allow this to run as it apparantly incompatible even
though this is an NTFS file system, the size of the HD is 120 GB and there
is currently 77 GB free. I don't think memory is an issue as I have 1300 MB
free. I think Linux has an EXT file format which was possible to create on
Partition Magic. The website for this program has no info on an upgrade for
Vista so I am wondering if anyone knows of a partitioning program that is
compatible with Vista or if it is recommended that you try a Linux
installation by using their partition program. I want to make sure that
there are no errors that could wipe out the contents of Vista and other than
installing on a 2nd drive, the safest bet might be to format first before
installing Linux. Any comments or suggestions appreciated.

IIRC, Symantec bought out PowerQuest (Partition Magic and Drive Image).
Support for Drive Image is marginal at best and the latest version (7) is
not compatible with Vista. Ghost V12 seems to be the current king of the
imaging crop. I just ordered a package from Fry's. All I wanted Partition
Magic V8 and Ghost V12. Fry's has a deal going that gives you Norton
Internet Security (gag), Partition Magic V8, and Ghost V12 for $70. Now get
this! There are two rebates good for $70 so The cost of the package is 0!
nada, nothing! I plan to sell the Internet Security junk on eBay so I will
net a gain - money in the bank. Can't get better than that.
*But* you better hurry over to Fry's because I think the deal might expire
today.

"nocal" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I am trying to partition my HD which has Vista Home basic in order to
>create a install for Linux. On XP, I used Partition Magic which worked
>well, however Vista will not allow this to run as it apparantly
>incompatible even though this is an NTFS file system, the size of the HD is
>120 GB and there is currently 77 GB free. I don't think memory is an issue
>as I have 1300 MB free. I think Linux has an EXT file format which was
>possible to create on Partition Magic. The website for this program has no
>info on an upgrade for Vista so I am wondering if anyone knows of a
>partitioning program that is compatible with Vista or if it is recommended
>that you try a Linux installation by using their partition program. I want
>to make sure that there are no errors that could wipe out the contents of
>Vista and other than installing on a 2nd drive, the safest bet might be to
>format first before installing Linux. Any comments or suggestions
>appreciated.

But Partition Magic 8 is not compatible with Windows Vista.

Ed Forsythe wrote:
> IIRC, Symantec bought out PowerQuest (Partition Magic and Drive Image).
> Support for Drive Image is marginal at best and the latest version (7) is
> not compatible with Vista. Ghost V12 seems to be the current king of the
> imaging crop. I just ordered a package from Fry's. All I wanted Partition
> Magic V8 and Ghost V12. Fry's has a deal going that gives you Norton
> Internet Security (gag), Partition Magic V8, and Ghost V12 for $70. Now get
> this! There are two rebates good for $70 so The cost of the package is 0!
> nada, nothing! I plan to sell the Internet Security junk on eBay so I will
> net a gain - money in the bank. Can't get better than that.
> *But* you better hurry over to Fry's because I think the deal might expire
> today.
>
> "nocal" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> I am trying to partition my HD which has Vista Home basic in order to
>> create a install for Linux. On XP, I used Partition Magic which worked
>> well, however Vista will not allow this to run as it apparantly
>> incompatible even though this is an NTFS file system, the size of the HD is
>> 120 GB and there is currently 77 GB free. I don't think memory is an issue
>> as I have 1300 MB free. I think Linux has an EXT file format which was
>> possible to create on Partition Magic. The website for this program has no
>> info on an upgrade for Vista so I am wondering if anyone knows of a
>> partitioning program that is compatible with Vista or if it is recommended
>> that you try a Linux installation by using their partition program. I want
>> to make sure that there are no errors that could wipe out the contents of
>> Vista and other than installing on a 2nd drive, the safest bet might be to
>> format first before installing Linux. Any comments or suggestions
>> appreciated.
>
>

Ah, but I'll be dual booting Vista Ultimate and XP Pro and PM8 *is*
compatible with XP is it not? The bottom line is I need Ghost 12. The Fry's
deal provides me with two apps + Ghost12 - FREE!

"Daze N. Knights" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> But Partition Magic 8 is not compatible with Windows Vista.
>
> Ed Forsythe wrote:
>> IIRC, Symantec bought out PowerQuest (Partition Magic and Drive Image).
>> Support for Drive Image is marginal at best and the latest version (7) is
>> not compatible with Vista. Ghost V12 seems to be the current king of the
>> imaging crop. I just ordered a package from Fry's. All I wanted
>> Partition Magic V8 and Ghost V12. Fry's has a deal going that gives you
>> Norton Internet Security (gag), Partition Magic V8, and Ghost V12 for
>> $70. Now get this! There are two rebates good for $70 so The cost of the
>> package is 0! nada, nothing! I plan to sell the Internet Security junk
>> on eBay so I will net a gain - money in the bank. Can't get better than
>> that.
>> *But* you better hurry over to Fry's because I think the deal might
>> expire today.
>>
>> "nocal" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> I am trying to partition my HD which has Vista Home basic in order to
>>> create a install for Linux. On XP, I used Partition Magic which worked
>>> well, however Vista will not allow this to run as it apparantly
>>> incompatible even though this is an NTFS file system, the size of the HD
>>> is 120 GB and there is currently 77 GB free. I don't think memory is an
>>> issue as I have 1300 MB free. I think Linux has an EXT file format which
>>> was possible to create on Partition Magic. The website for this program
>>> has no info on an upgrade for Vista so I am wondering if anyone knows of
>>> a partitioning program that is compatible with Vista or if it is
>>> recommended that you try a Linux installation by using their partition
>>> program. I want to make sure that there are no errors that could wipe
>>> out the contents of Vista and other than installing on a 2nd drive, the
>>> safest bet might be to format first before installing Linux. Any
>>> comments or suggestions appreciated.
>>

But if you create a partition for Vista, using Partition Magic 8, you "will"
have problems. Unfortunately, they may not show up until you have invested
many hours in building up your system. Then you will be forced to start
over, creating a Vista partition using either the Vista install program or
another compatible utility.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)



"Ed Forsythe" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Ah, but I'll be dual booting Vista Ultimate and XP Pro and PM8 *is*
> compatible with XP is it not? The bottom line is I need Ghost 12. The
> Fry's deal provides me with two apps + Ghost12 - FREE!
>
> "Daze N. Knights" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> But Partition Magic 8 is not compatible with Windows Vista.
>>
>> Ed Forsythe wrote:
>>> IIRC, Symantec bought out PowerQuest (Partition Magic and Drive Image).
>>> Support for Drive Image is marginal at best and the latest version (7)
>>> is not compatible with Vista. Ghost V12 seems to be the current king of
>>> the imaging crop. I just ordered a package from Fry's. All I wanted
>>> Partition Magic V8 and Ghost V12. Fry's has a deal going that gives you
>>> Norton Internet Security (gag), Partition Magic V8, and Ghost V12 for
>>> $70. Now get this! There are two rebates good for $70 so The cost of
>>> the package is 0! nada, nothing! I plan to sell the Internet Security
>>> junk on eBay so I will net a gain - money in the bank. Can't get better
>>> than that.
>>> *But* you better hurry over to Fry's because I think the deal might
>>> expire today.
>>>
>>> "nocal" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> I am trying to partition my HD which has Vista Home basic in order to
>>>> create a install for Linux. On XP, I used Partition Magic which worked
>>>> well, however Vista will not allow this to run as it apparantly
>>>> incompatible even though this is an NTFS file system, the size of the
>>>> HD is 120 GB and there is currently 77 GB free. I don't think memory is
>>>> an issue as I have 1300 MB free. I think Linux has an EXT file format
>>>> which was possible to create on Partition Magic. The website for this
>>>> program has no info on an upgrade for Vista so I am wondering if anyone
>>>> knows of a partitioning program that is compatible with Vista or if it
>>>> is recommended that you try a Linux installation by using their
>>>> partition program. I want to make sure that there are no errors that
>>>> could wipe out the contents of Vista and other than installing on a 2nd
>>>> drive, the safest bet might be to format first before installing Linux.
>>>> Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
>>>
>

"Ed Forsythe" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Ah, but I'll be dual booting Vista Ultimate and XP Pro and PM8 *is*
> compatible with XP is it not? The bottom line is I need Ghost 12. The
> Fry's deal provides me with two apps + Ghost12 - FREE!
>
Based on my experiences trying to use PM 8 to work with Vista partitions
(back in the days of Vista RC1, which I had dual booting with XP Pro, where
PM 8 was installed), heed Richard's warning!

If you want a partition utility that's safe with Vista, get Acronis Disk
Director (Version 10, Build 2160 or later).

Try these :

http://www.v-com.com/product/System_Commander_Home.html

http://vcom.avanquest.com/cat/prod.php?pid=2177

"nocal" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I am trying to partition my HD which has Vista Home basic in order to
>create a install for Linux. On XP, I used Partition Magic which worked
>well, however Vista will not allow this to run as it apparantly
>incompatible even though this is an NTFS file system, the size of the HD is
>120 GB and there is currently 77 GB free. I don't think memory is an issue
>as I have 1300 MB free. I think Linux has an EXT file format which was
>possible to create on Partition Magic. The website for this program has no
>info on an upgrade for Vista so I am wondering if anyone knows of a
>partitioning program that is compatible with Vista or if it is recommended
>that you try a Linux installation by using their partition program. I want
>to make sure that there are no errors that could wipe out the contents of
>Vista and other than installing on a 2nd drive, the safest bet might be to
>format first before installing Linux. Any comments or suggestions
>appreciated.

Richard, of course I won't create a partition using PM. I agree that would
be inviting disaster. Vista allows me to resize the current XP partition and
install Vista on another partition which Vista creates. All of this is done
during the Vista Ultimate install. Am I correct?


"Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
news:...
> But if you create a partition for Vista, using Partition Magic 8, you
> "will" have problems. Unfortunately, they may not show up until you have
> invested many hours in building up your system. Then you will be forced to
> start over, creating a Vista partition using either the Vista install
> program or another compatible utility.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
>
>
> "Ed Forsythe" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Ah, but I'll be dual booting Vista Ultimate and XP Pro and PM8 *is*
>> compatible with XP is it not? The bottom line is I need Ghost 12. The
>> Fry's deal provides me with two apps + Ghost12 - FREE!
>>
>> "Daze N. Knights" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>> But Partition Magic 8 is not compatible with Windows Vista.
>>>
>>> Ed Forsythe wrote:
>>>> IIRC, Symantec bought out PowerQuest (Partition Magic and Drive Image).
>>>> Support for Drive Image is marginal at best and the latest version (7)
>>>> is not compatible with Vista. Ghost V12 seems to be the current king of
>>>> the imaging crop. I just ordered a package from Fry's. All I wanted
>>>> Partition Magic V8 and Ghost V12. Fry's has a deal going that gives you
>>>> Norton Internet Security (gag), Partition Magic V8, and Ghost V12 for
>>>> $70. Now get this! There are two rebates good for $70 so The cost of
>>>> the package is 0! nada, nothing! I plan to sell the Internet Security
>>>> junk on eBay so I will net a gain - money in the bank. Can't get
>>>> better than that.
>>>> *But* you better hurry over to Fry's because I think the deal might
>>>> expire today.
>>>>
>>>> "nocal" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> I am trying to partition my HD which has Vista Home basic in order to
>>>>> create a install for Linux. On XP, I used Partition Magic which worked
>>>>> well, however Vista will not allow this to run as it apparantly
>>>>> incompatible even though this is an NTFS file system, the size of the
>>>>> HD is 120 GB and there is currently 77 GB free. I don't think memory
>>>>> is an issue as I have 1300 MB free. I think Linux has an EXT file
>>>>> format which was possible to create on Partition Magic. The website
>>>>> for this program has no info on an upgrade for Vista so I am wondering
>>>>> if anyone knows of a partitioning program that is compatible with
>>>>> Vista or if it is recommended that you try a Linux installation by
>>>>> using their partition program. I want to make sure that there are no
>>>>> errors that could wipe out the contents of Vista and other than
>>>>> installing on a 2nd drive, the safest bet might be to format first
>>>>> before installing Linux. Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
>>>>
>>
>

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:29:44 -0700, nocal wrote:

> I am trying to partition my HD which has Vista Home basic in order to create
> a install for Linux. On XP, I used Partition Magic which worked well,
> however Vista will not allow this to run as it apparantly incompatible even
> though this is an NTFS file system, the size of the HD is 120 GB and there
> is currently 77 GB free. I don't think memory is an issue as I have 1300 MB
> free. I think Linux has an EXT file format which was possible to create on
> Partition Magic. The website for this program has no info on an upgrade for
> Vista so I am wondering if anyone knows of a partitioning program that is
> compatible with Vista or if it is recommended that you try a Linux
> installation by using their partition program. I want to make sure that
> there are no errors that could wipe out the contents of Vista and other than
> installing on a 2nd drive, the safest bet might be to format first before
> installing Linux. Any comments or suggestions appreciated.

There is really no need to use PM. Virtually all modern Linux distros
include repartitioning as a part of the install process. If you're still
reluctant, try booting the Gparted Live CD - that will handle everything.
FYI - ext2/3 is one option for Linux - there are others. I use Reiserfs on
nearly everything. It is always a good idea to backup stuff first - what
if the power dies? It's recommended to defrag any MS system first before
resizing.

You can manage the XP o/s, extended dos/logical Ntfs and Fat32 partitions in XP with PM8 or XP's Disk Management. If you later install Vista as the second o/s and have two separate drives, with the intent to dual boot use XP's Disk Management to leave unallocated space, preferably at the beginning of the second drive prior to installing Vista and install Vista to that unallocated space.

Once complete you can not use PM8 to manage the Vista paritition or later Vista Disk Management's created partitions.

If you run PM8 in XP, and it says it found an error on the Vista drive and offers to repair, do not, repeat do not, let it repair.!! You will damage the offset Vista uses for its unique approach to ntfs.

....winston

"Ed Forsythe" <> wrote in message news:...
: Richard, of course I won't create a partition using PM. I agree that would
: be inviting disaster. Vista allows me to resize the current XP partition and
: install Vista on another partition which Vista creates. All of this is done
: during the Vista Ultimate install. Am I correct?
:
:
: "Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
: news:...
: > But if you create a partition for Vista, using Partition Magic 8, you
: > "will" have problems. Unfortunately, they may not show up until you have
: > invested many hours in building up your system. Then you will be forced to
: > start over, creating a Vista partition using either the Vista install
: > program or another compatible utility.
: >
: > --
: >
: >
: > Regards,
: >
: > Richard Urban
: > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
: > (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
: >
: >
: >
: > "Ed Forsythe" <> wrote in message
: > news:...
: >> Ah, but I'll be dual booting Vista Ultimate and XP Pro and PM8 *is*
: >> compatible with XP is it not? The bottom line is I need Ghost 12. The
: >> Fry's deal provides me with two apps + Ghost12 - FREE!
: >>
: >> "Daze N. Knights" <> wrote in message
: >> news:%...
: >>> But Partition Magic 8 is not compatible with Windows Vista.
: >>>
: >>> Ed Forsythe wrote:
: >>>> IIRC, Symantec bought out PowerQuest (Partition Magic and Drive Image).
: >>>> Support for Drive Image is marginal at best and the latest version (7)
: >>>> is not compatible with Vista. Ghost V12 seems to be the current king of
: >>>> the imaging crop. I just ordered a package from Fry's. All I wanted
: >>>> Partition Magic V8 and Ghost V12. Fry's has a deal going that gives you
: >>>> Norton Internet Security (gag), Partition Magic V8, and Ghost V12 for
: >>>> $70. Now get this! There are two rebates good for $70 so The cost of
: >>>> the package is 0! nada, nothing! I plan to sell the Internet Security
: >>>> junk on eBay so I will net a gain - money in the bank. Can't get
: >>>> better than that.
: >>>> *But* you better hurry over to Fry's because I think the deal might
: >>>> expire today.
: >>>>
: >>>> "nocal" <> wrote in message
: >>>> news:...
: >>>>> I am trying to partition my HD which has Vista Home basic in order to
: >>>>> create a install for Linux. On XP, I used Partition Magic which worked
: >>>>> well, however Vista will not allow this to run as it apparantly
: >>>>> incompatible even though this is an NTFS file system, the size of the
: >>>>> HD is 120 GB and there is currently 77 GB free. I don't think memory
: >>>>> is an issue as I have 1300 MB free. I think Linux has an EXT file
: >>>>> format which was possible to create on Partition Magic. The website
: >>>>> for this program has no info on an upgrade for Vista so I am wondering
: >>>>> if anyone knows of a partitioning program that is compatible with
: >>>>> Vista or if it is recommended that you try a Linux installation by
: >>>>> using their partition program. I want to make sure that there are no
: >>>>> errors that could wipe out the contents of Vista and other than
: >>>>> installing on a 2nd drive, the safest bet might be to format first
: >>>>> before installing Linux. Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
: >>>>
: >>
: >
:
: