How to partition

Quote from John Barnet:

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While I do use the disk management tools that came with Vista I have to say
that I much prefer Acronis Disk Director. I also like Paragon Hard Disk
manager Suite 2008. Of course these application are not free but either are
well worth having.


Quote from Eric (the original poster):

So John, if I want C=60, D=220 and E(which doen't exist yet) = 220 coming
from C=150 and D=350,

is the following method the way to proceed:

1. shrink C to 60 and D to 220
2. create E and allocate the remaining part which should be about 220???

Thanks for your help.

Erick


Quote from John Barnet:

Somewhat more complex than that Erick and now I'm going to burst the bubble
by suggesting you use third party partitioning software.

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Quote from you:

John, since certain 'unmovable' files are not moved by Vista, the maximum
you will be able to get on the new partition is the amount that you had when
you just shrink either partition the maximum amount until the first
unmovable file on the partition

**Mr. Barnet is continually telling him to use 3rd party partitioning
software, yet you keep going back to Disk Management (included with Vista)

Quote from me:

Not entirely correct John.

If you create the bootable CD from within Disk Director Suite and then boot
from this CD the program does NOT see any locked system files. At that point
you can anything that you need to do - without any impediment at all.

I was telling you that if you use a 3rd party partitioning program (which
Mr. Barnet has been advocating all along) you are not bound by those
constraints.

Quote from you:

We were discussing what Vista can do. I did not receive Disk Director Suite
with my Vista DVD. Personally as stated above I would download the trial
version of BootItNG and do the partitions with that.


*****WRONG***** We were not!
We were talking about how to get around the limitations imposed by Disk
Management supplied with Vista!

We all know about the limitations of Disk Management and we steer people to
the solution - which is a 3rd party partitioning program!

You keep going back to Disk Manager.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"John Barnes" <> wrote in message
news:Oc$z%...
> We were discussing what Vista can do. I did not receive Disk Director
> Suite with my Vista DVD. Personally as stated above I would download the
> trial version of BootItNG and do the partitions with that.
>
> "Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Not entirely correct John.
>>
>> If you create the bootable CD from within Disk Director Suite and then
>> boot from this CD the program does NOT see any locked system files. At
>> that point you can anything that you need to do - without any impediment
>> at all.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>
>>
>> "John Barnes" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> John, since certain 'unmovable' files are not moved by Vista, the
>>> maximum you will be able to get on the new partition is the amount that
>>> you had when you just shrink either partition the maximum amount until
>>> the first unmovable file on the partition
>>>
>>> "John Barnett MVP" <> wrote in message
>>> news:uVdEiW$...
>>>> Somewhat more complex than that Erick and now I'm going to burst the
>>>> bubble by suggesting you use third party partitioning software.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Shrink the C: drive (from the end of the C drive) from 150 down to
>>>> 60
>>>> 2. You now have a 60GB C: drive immediately followed by 90GB of
>>>> unallocated space
>>>> 3. You now need to expand your D drive (from the beginning of the D
>>>> drive) to take up the 90GB of unallocated space, thus making your new D
>>>> drive (temporarily) 440GB
>>>> 4. Next shrink the D drive (from the end of the D drive) down to 220GB
>>>> 5. You will now have 220GB of unallocated space 'after' your D drive
>>>> 6. Finally create a new partition E in the unallocated zone (creating a
>>>> partition of 220GB)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> John Barnett MVP
>>>> Windows XP Associate Expert
>>>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>>>
>>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Erick" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:UIOEk.196$2...
>>>>> So John, if I want C=60, D=220 and E(which doen't exist yet) = 220
>>>>> coming from C=150 and D=350,
>>>>>
>>>>> is the following method the way to proceed:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. shrink C to 60 and D to 220
>>>>> 2. create E and allocate the remaining part which should be about
>>>>> 220???
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Erick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "John Barnett MVP" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:O29PTg%...
>>>>>> You can use the disk management tools that come with Vista (control
>>>>>> panel>administrative tools>computer management>disk management). You
>>>>>> will obviously have to shrink your D partition to enable you to
>>>>>> create a new partition (after D in the newly created unallocated
>>>>>> space.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Partition Magic is another one of Symantec's useless software
>>>>>> applications and I gave up on Symantec products years ago. Partition
>>>>>> Magic, as you have found out, will not run on Vista.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While I do use the disk management tools that came with Vista I have
>>>>>> to say that I much prefer Acronis Disk Director. I also like Paragon
>>>>>> Hard Disk manager Suite 2008. Of course these application are not
>>>>>> free but either are well worth having.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> John Barnett MVP
>>>>>> Windows XP Associate Expert
>>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>>>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>>>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
>>>>>> accuracy,
>>>>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be
>>>>>> liable for
>>>>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
>>>>>> of the
>>>>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> mail/post..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Erick" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:WJKEk.75632$2...
>>>>>>> Hi evrybody,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My drive is partionned in 2 parts.
>>>>>>> C is about 150 Gb
>>>>>>> D is about 350 Gb
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to add 1 partition E and resize the others.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How can I proceed? Under XP, I had Partition Magic 8.0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
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