pc not registering in primary dns zone in server 2003

I have a standard primary zone called fabrikam set up on a pc called
router01. Router01's ipconfig is:

Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790]
(C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : router01
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter LAN:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 21140-Based PCI Fast Ethernet
Adapt
er (Generic) #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-FF-7B-2D-AF
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.10
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter WAN:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 21140-Based PCI Fast Ethernet
Adapt
er (Generic)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-FF-64-2D-AF
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.4
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 23 January 2010 21:20:17
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 23 January 2010 22:20:17

And a pc called filesvr01 ipconfig as follows:

Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790]
(C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : filesvr01
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : fabrikam.com
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : fabrikam.com

Ethernet adapter LAN:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : fabrikam.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 21140-Based PCI Fast Ethernet
Adapt
er (Generic)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-FF-7A-2D-AF
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.11
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.10
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.10
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.10
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 23 January 2010 21:16:28
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 31 January 2010 21:16:28

The problem is that filesvr01 is not registering a host record in the
fabrikam.com zone.

Router01 and filesvr01 are running W2K3

The fabrikam.com zone is configured to allow secure and non-secure dynamic
updates.

Thanks Anastas

I set router01's Primary DNS suffix to fabrikam.com, which of course
required a restart, then filesvr01 appeared in fabrikam.com zone.

So was it setting the Primary DNS suffix, or the restart, that caused
filesvr01 to register?

Any ideas anyone,

Best regards Anastas
"Mikoyan" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I have a standard primary zone called fabrikam set up on a pc called
>router01. Router01's ipconfig is:
>
> Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790]
> (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp.
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all
>
> Windows IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : router01
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>
> Ethernet adapter LAN:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 21140-Based PCI Fast Ethernet
> Adapt
> er (Generic) #2
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-FF-7B-2D-AF
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.10
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>
> Ethernet adapter WAN:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 21140-Based PCI Fast Ethernet
> Adapt
> er (Generic)
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-FF-64-2D-AF
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.4
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 23 January 2010 21:20:17
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 23 January 2010 22:20:17
>
> And a pc called filesvr01 ipconfig as follows:
>
> Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790]
> (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp.
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all
>
> Windows IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : filesvr01
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : fabrikam.com
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : fabrikam.com
>
> Ethernet adapter LAN:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : fabrikam.com
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 21140-Based PCI Fast Ethernet
> Adapt
> er (Generic)
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-FF-7A-2D-AF
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.11
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.10
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.10
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.10
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 23 January 2010 21:16:28
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 31 January 2010 21:16:28
>
> The problem is that filesvr01 is not registering a host record in the
> fabrikam.com zone.
>
> Router01 and filesvr01 are running W2K3
>
> The fabrikam.com zone is configured to allow secure and non-secure dynamic
> updates.
>
> Thanks Anastas
>

"Mikoyan" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I set router01's Primary DNS suffix to fabrikam.com, which of course
>required a restart, then filesvr01 appeared in fabrikam.com zone.
>
> So was it setting the Primary DNS suffix, or the restart, that caused
> filesvr01 to register?
>
> Any ideas anyone,
>
> Best regards Anastas


Absolutely.

In summary, on a non-DC, the DHCP Client service, which performs Dynamic
Registration, reads the hostname and IP address, then reads the Primary DNS
Suffix, which then sends this info using the DNS server configured in IP
properties requesting registration in the zone specified as the Primary DNS
Suffix, as well as reverse IP info, if a reverse zone exists. There's more
to it than just that, but that is the gist of it.

If it's a DC, the above is performed in addition the netlogon service
registers the LdapIpAddress, GcIpAddress and other SRV data into the zone
specified as the Primary DNS Suffix.

To continue, if the zone name on a domain controller does not match the AD
zone name, it is a "dijointed namespace" issue. Otherwise, if no Primary DNS
Suffix is configured on a machine, there's no zone to send the registration
info to.

If "router01" is a domain controller, expect other issues happening because
multihomed DCs are problematic if not configured correctly (includes
registry changes, etc). If a non-DC, no worries.


Read more on it (applies to servers and workstations):

How to configure DNS dynamic updates in Windows Server 2003 (same applies to
other operating systems).
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816592

--
Ace

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responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your resolution.

Ace Fekay, MVP, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE &
MCSA 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
Microsoft Certified Trainer
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services

If you feel this is an urgent issue and require immediate assistance, please
contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check http://support.microsoft.com
for regional support phone numbers.

Hi Ace,

Thank you for the excellent info.

Router01 is not a DC, and is currently working well in it's planned role as
a router - hence the two NICs.

Thanks very much, Anastas
"Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT]" <> wrote in message
news:Oio%...
> "Mikoyan" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>I set router01's Primary DNS suffix to fabrikam.com, which of course
>>required a restart, then filesvr01 appeared in fabrikam.com zone.
>>
>> So was it setting the Primary DNS suffix, or the restart, that caused
>> filesvr01 to register?
>>
>> Any ideas anyone,
>>
>> Best regards Anastas
>
>
> Absolutely.
>
> In summary, on a non-DC, the DHCP Client service, which performs Dynamic
> Registration, reads the hostname and IP address, then reads the Primary
> DNS Suffix, which then sends this info using the DNS server configured in
> IP properties requesting registration in the zone specified as the Primary
> DNS Suffix, as well as reverse IP info, if a reverse zone exists. There's
> more to it than just that, but that is the gist of it.
>
> If it's a DC, the above is performed in addition the netlogon service
> registers the LdapIpAddress, GcIpAddress and other SRV data into the zone
> specified as the Primary DNS Suffix.
>
> To continue, if the zone name on a domain controller does not match the AD
> zone name, it is a "dijointed namespace" issue. Otherwise, if no Primary
> DNS Suffix is configured on a machine, there's no zone to send the
> registration info to.
>
> If "router01" is a domain controller, expect other issues happening
> because multihomed DCs are problematic if not configured correctly
> (includes registry changes, etc). If a non-DC, no worries.
>
>
> Read more on it (applies to servers and workstations):
>
> How to configure DNS dynamic updates in Windows Server 2003 (same applies
> to other operating systems).
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816592
>
> --
> Ace
>
> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> confers no rights.
>
> Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit
> among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your
> resolution.
>
> Ace Fekay, MVP, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE &
> MCSA 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
> Microsoft Certified Trainer
> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
>
> If you feel this is an urgent issue and require immediate assistance,
> please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check
> http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>

"Mikoyan" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi Ace,
>
> Thank you for the excellent info.
>
> Router01 is not a DC, and is currently working well in it's planned role
> as a router - hence the two NICs.
>
> Thanks very much, Anastas

You are welcome, Anastas.

Good to hear that router01 is not a DC. :-)

If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to post.

Cheers!

Ace