Permission Setting issue

I've run into an issue with Vista (Home Prem SP1, no UAC) properly
setting permissions. This problem has occurred multiple times over
several weeks. and a reboot always correct it. I'm looking for a
better solution than a reboot. At first I thought it was due to a
specific configuration issue but I just ran into it again on a fresh
build.

Here's the scenario: Sometimes I try to move a file, or folder, or
rename a folder, or delete something, etc, Vista responds with the
"you need permission to do this". So, I set permissions on the
object(s) to "everyone, full control". This does not solve the
problem. So, I check, recheck, reset, redo, permissions, match owners,
etc. Nothing helps - I get the same message. I do a reboot and
everything works normally.

It seems like Vista is unwilling to actually change the permissions on
certain objects. Perhaps they are "in use" somehow, somewhere in
Windows. It appears to change the permissions, they just don't work
properly until reboot. This issue never occurred in previous versions
of Windows.

Any known solutions?

Sometimes just one or two corrupted files in a large folder can prevent the
Administrator from taking Full Control of the entire folder and its contents,
thus negating the Parent Inheritance protocol that Vista UAC normally
follows.

Here’s some ideas to help gain control of your folders and files that are
giving you trouble:


1) turn off UAC and try to delete, copy or move folders.
2) run DOS as administrator and try to copy or delete from DOS command line.
3) If your troubled folders or files are in a standard user account,
transfer those files or folders from Standard users account to Administrator
account and then try to take Full Control as the logged-in Administrator. You
might need to set up sharing permissions, also. Right click folder,
Properties to get to permissions and security settings.
4) Google or Yahoo! for 3rd party software that will help you to gain Full
Control of a folder or file.
5) Exhaust all options by setting parameters in Properties > Security or
Properties > Sharing.

Sometimes Vista’s UAC gets confused and won’t allow the current
Administrator to have Full Control on certain files/folders. Depending on the
origin of the folders and files or how Vista’s built-in administrators are
protecting those files or folders, each problem of gaining permissions and
Full Control seems to call for a different “workaround.�



Best of luck…

--
oscar

....Right click is your very good friend...


"+Bob+" wrote:

> I've run into an issue with Vista (Home Prem SP1, no UAC) properly
> setting permissions. This problem has occurred multiple times over
> several weeks. and a reboot always correct it. I'm looking for a
> better solution than a reboot. At first I thought it was due to a
> specific configuration issue but I just ran into it again on a fresh
> build.
>
> Here's the scenario: Sometimes I try to move a file, or folder, or
> rename a folder, or delete something, etc, Vista responds with the
> "you need permission to do this". So, I set permissions on the
> object(s) to "everyone, full control". This does not solve the
> problem. So, I check, recheck, reset, redo, permissions, match owners,
> etc. Nothing helps - I get the same message. I do a reboot and
> everything works normally.
>
> It seems like Vista is unwilling to actually change the permissions on
> certain objects. Perhaps they are "in use" somehow, somewhere in
> Windows. It appears to change the permissions, they just don't work
> properly until reboot. This issue never occurred in previous versions
> of Windows.
>
> Any known solutions?
>

He has UAC turned OFF, lol.
--
Mad Mike


"oscar" wrote:

>
> Sometimes just one or two corrupted files in a large folder can prevent the
> Administrator from taking Full Control of the entire folder and its contents,
> thus negating the Parent Inheritance protocol that Vista UAC normally
> follows.
>
> Here’s some ideas to help gain control of your folders and files that are
> giving you trouble:
>
>
> 1) turn off UAC and try to delete, copy or move folders.
> 2) run DOS as administrator and try to copy or delete from DOS command line.
> 3) If your troubled folders or files are in a standard user account,
> transfer those files or folders from Standard users account to Administrator
> account and then try to take Full Control as the logged-in Administrator. You
> might need to set up sharing permissions, also. Right click folder,
> Properties to get to permissions and security settings.
> 4) Google or Yahoo! for 3rd party software that will help you to gain Full
> Control of a folder or file.
> 5) Exhaust all options by setting parameters in Properties > Security or
> Properties > Sharing.
>
> Sometimes Vista’s UAC gets confused and won’t allow the current
> Administrator to have Full Control on certain files/folders. Depending on the
> origin of the folders and files or how Vista’s built-in administrators are
> protecting those files or folders, each problem of gaining permissions and
> Full Control seems to call for a different “workaround.�
>
>
>
> Best of luck…
>
> --
> oscar
>
> ...Right click is your very good friend...
>
>
> "+Bob+" wrote:
>
> > I've run into an issue with Vista (Home Prem SP1, no UAC) properly
> > setting permissions. This problem has occurred multiple times over
> > several weeks. and a reboot always correct it. I'm looking for a
> > better solution than a reboot. At first I thought it was due to a
> > specific configuration issue but I just ran into it again on a fresh
> > build.
> >
> > Here's the scenario: Sometimes I try to move a file, or folder, or
> > rename a folder, or delete something, etc, Vista responds with the
> > "you need permission to do this". So, I set permissions on the
> > object(s) to "everyone, full control". This does not solve the
> > problem. So, I check, recheck, reset, redo, permissions, match owners,
> > etc. Nothing helps - I get the same message. I do a reboot and
> > everything works normally.
> >
> > It seems like Vista is unwilling to actually change the permissions on
> > certain objects. Perhaps they are "in use" somehow, somewhere in
> > Windows. It appears to change the permissions, they just don't work
> > properly until reboot. This issue never occurred in previous versions
> > of Windows.
> >
> > Any known solutions?
> >

I've done too much troubleshooting to assume that UAC is off even if
customer/poster states that UAC is off. And your solution/suggestions to the
poster's problem is?

--
oscar

....Right click is your very good friend...


"Mick Murphy" wrote:

> He has UAC turned OFF, lol.
> --
> Mad Mike
>
>
> "oscar" wrote:
>
> >
> > Sometimes just one or two corrupted files in a large folder can prevent the
> > Administrator from taking Full Control of the entire folder and its contents,
> > thus negating the Parent Inheritance protocol that Vista UAC normally
> > follows.
> >
> > Here’s some ideas to help gain control of your folders and files that are
> > giving you trouble:
> >
> >
> > 1) turn off UAC and try to delete, copy or move folders.
> > 2) run DOS as administrator and try to copy or delete from DOS command line.
> > 3) If your troubled folders or files are in a standard user account,
> > transfer those files or folders from Standard users account to Administrator
> > account and then try to take Full Control as the logged-in Administrator. You
> > might need to set up sharing permissions, also. Right click folder,
> > Properties to get to permissions and security settings.
> > 4) Google or Yahoo! for 3rd party software that will help you to gain Full
> > Control of a folder or file.
> > 5) Exhaust all options by setting parameters in Properties > Security or
> > Properties > Sharing.
> >
> > Sometimes Vista’s UAC gets confused and won’t allow the current
> > Administrator to have Full Control on certain files/folders. Depending on the
> > origin of the folders and files or how Vista’s built-in administrators are
> > protecting those files or folders, each problem of gaining permissions and
> > Full Control seems to call for a different “workaround.�
> >
> >
> >
> > Best of luck…
> >
> > --
> > oscar
> >
> > ...Right click is your very good friend...
> >
> >
> > "+Bob+" wrote:
> >
> > > I've run into an issue with Vista (Home Prem SP1, no UAC) properly
> > > setting permissions. This problem has occurred multiple times over
> > > several weeks. and a reboot always correct it. I'm looking for a
> > > better solution than a reboot. At first I thought it was due to a
> > > specific configuration issue but I just ran into it again on a fresh
> > > build.
> > >
> > > Here's the scenario: Sometimes I try to move a file, or folder, or
> > > rename a folder, or delete something, etc, Vista responds with the
> > > "you need permission to do this". So, I set permissions on the
> > > object(s) to "everyone, full control". This does not solve the
> > > problem. So, I check, recheck, reset, redo, permissions, match owners,
> > > etc. Nothing helps - I get the same message. I do a reboot and
> > > everything works normally.
> > >
> > > It seems like Vista is unwilling to actually change the permissions on
> > > certain objects. Perhaps they are "in use" somehow, somewhere in
> > > Windows. It appears to change the permissions, they just don't work
> > > properly until reboot. This issue never occurred in previous versions
> > > of Windows.
> > >
> > > Any known solutions?
> > >