plusses and not-plusses

Well, my Vista box seems to be improved. In general, the performance is
flying. The eye-candy works well, too. Installing the latest drivers from
Intel seem to have solved most of the issues, bar one which I discuss
somewhat further below. The beta version of the latest drivers from nVidia
look like they have fixed the issues that was having with earlier versions.
The network works without a hitch - I have this Vista box, an XP Pro box,
and a Linux box, and they are all quite happy to talk to each other. The few
software issues am still having may mostly need to be addressed by the
software developers, not Microsoft, and am following up that area.

Two issues looking for assistance on, however. So you have some idea what
you are looking at, system is Ultimate, nVidia 8800gts with 320Mb, 2Gb
memory, 2 x 320Gb hard drives (SATA), Dual Core 2 6600 @2.40GHz, Intel
D975XBX2 motherboard., all the latest hardware drivers from Intel and
nVidia.

First one seems rather minor - what setting have I tripped to lose my access
to information on the Windows Experience Index. Access via 'Control Panel /
System and Maintenance / System / View amount of Ram and Processor Speed',
and I get something similar to where my index used to be detailed, but
missing the various component details, and no link to re-check the index.
'System and Maintenance / System / Check your Windows Experience Index base
score' and I get an almost blank screen that says I can check it, and when
the last rating was done, but no links or other means of checking.

The other is more serious. The XP box also serves as my print server. Vista
seems to have a problem with this, but in an inconsistent manner. I can
print from most of my applications in Vista with only about a minute's delay
(still far too long, but if I must, I will live with it, albeit
impatiently), but what I will refer to as Windows native programs (Notepad,
WordPad etc) hang completely without the expected recovery I have come to
expect from Vista. After between 5 to 10 minutes, I get impatient and kill
the application off. It is only when I try to print that the problem
occurs - all applications seem to behave otherwise pretty well normally. I
suspect that it has something to do with the way the Vista and XP boxes talk
to each other about the process, but I have no other problems in Network
communications. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the printers, to
no avail. Reboots, also no joy. From the XP box, they both work perfectly
Can anyone give me some pointers (in layman's terms, please) that may help
me to fix this issue?

R.

(beating head on desk) Update.

And just now, about five hours after last having the problem, I tried (yet
one more time) to print from Notepad, and it went through *almost
instantly*. Uh? Same from Windows Mail. Uh? Anyone have an explanation?

R.

"Romane" <> wrote in message
news:eb9%...
> Well, my Vista box seems to be improved. In general, the performance is
> flying. The eye-candy works well, too. Installing the latest drivers from
> Intel seem to have solved most of the issues, bar one which I discuss
> somewhat further below. The beta version of the latest drivers from nVidia
> look like they have fixed the issues that was having with earlier
> versions. The network works without a hitch - I have this Vista box, an XP
> Pro box, and a Linux box, and they are all quite happy to talk to each
> other. The few software issues am still having may mostly need to be
> addressed by the software developers, not Microsoft, and am following up
> that area.
>
> Two issues looking for assistance on, however. So you have some idea what
> you are looking at, system is Ultimate, nVidia 8800gts with 320Mb, 2Gb
> memory, 2 x 320Gb hard drives (SATA), Dual Core 2 6600 @2.40GHz, Intel
> D975XBX2 motherboard., all the latest hardware drivers from Intel and
> nVidia.
>
> First one seems rather minor - what setting have I tripped to lose my
> access to information on the Windows Experience Index. Access via 'Control
> Panel / System and Maintenance / System / View amount of Ram and Processor
> Speed', and I get something similar to where my index used to be detailed,
> but missing the various component details, and no link to re-check the
> index. 'System and Maintenance / System / Check your Windows Experience
> Index base score' and I get an almost blank screen that says I can check
> it, and when the last rating was done, but no links or other means of
> checking.
>
> The other is more serious. The XP box also serves as my print server.
> Vista seems to have a problem with this, but in an inconsistent manner. I
> can print from most of my applications in Vista with only about a minute's
> delay (still far too long, but if I must, I will live with it, albeit
> impatiently), but what I will refer to as Windows native programs
> (Notepad, WordPad etc) hang completely without the expected recovery I
> have come to expect from Vista. After between 5 to 10 minutes, I get
> impatient and kill the application off. It is only when I try to print
> that the problem occurs - all applications seem to behave otherwise pretty
> well normally. I suspect that it has something to do with the way the
> Vista and XP boxes talk to each other about the process, but I have no
> other problems in Network communications. I have tried uninstalling and
> reinstalling the printers, to no avail. Reboots, also no joy. From the XP
> box, they both work perfectly Can anyone give me some pointers (in
> layman's terms, please) that may help me to fix this issue?
>
> R.

1St Prob - See if this applies -
http://www.winhelponline.com/articles/152/1/

2nd Prob. - Still working on it!!!!!!!!!!
--
Regards
Bob J


"Romane" wrote:

> (beating head on desk) Update.
>
> And just now, about five hours after last having the problem, I tried (yet
> one more time) to print from Notepad, and it went through *almost
> instantly*. Uh? Same from Windows Mail. Uh? Anyone have an explanation?
>
> R.
>
> "Romane" <> wrote in message
> news:eb9%...
> > Well, my Vista box seems to be improved. In general, the performance is
> > flying. The eye-candy works well, too. Installing the latest drivers from
> > Intel seem to have solved most of the issues, bar one which I discuss
> > somewhat further below. The beta version of the latest drivers from nVidia
> > look like they have fixed the issues that was having with earlier
> > versions. The network works without a hitch - I have this Vista box, an XP
> > Pro box, and a Linux box, and they are all quite happy to talk to each
> > other. The few software issues am still having may mostly need to be
> > addressed by the software developers, not Microsoft, and am following up
> > that area.
> >
> > Two issues looking for assistance on, however. So you have some idea what
> > you are looking at, system is Ultimate, nVidia 8800gts with 320Mb, 2Gb
> > memory, 2 x 320Gb hard drives (SATA), Dual Core 2 6600 @2.40GHz, Intel
> > D975XBX2 motherboard., all the latest hardware drivers from Intel and
> > nVidia.
> >
> > First one seems rather minor - what setting have I tripped to lose my
> > access to information on the Windows Experience Index. Access via 'Control
> > Panel / System and Maintenance / System / View amount of Ram and Processor
> > Speed', and I get something similar to where my index used to be detailed,
> > but missing the various component details, and no link to re-check the
> > index. 'System and Maintenance / System / Check your Windows Experience
> > Index base score' and I get an almost blank screen that says I can check
> > it, and when the last rating was done, but no links or other means of
> > checking.
> >
> > The other is more serious. The XP box also serves as my print server.
> > Vista seems to have a problem with this, but in an inconsistent manner. I
> > can print from most of my applications in Vista with only about a minute's
> > delay (still far too long, but if I must, I will live with it, albeit
> > impatiently), but what I will refer to as Windows native programs
> > (Notepad, WordPad etc) hang completely without the expected recovery I
> > have come to expect from Vista. After between 5 to 10 minutes, I get
> > impatient and kill the application off. It is only when I try to print
> > that the problem occurs - all applications seem to behave otherwise pretty
> > well normally. I suspect that it has something to do with the way the
> > Vista and XP boxes talk to each other about the process, but I have no
> > other problems in Network communications. I have tried uninstalling and
> > reinstalling the printers, to no avail. Reboots, also no joy. From the XP
> > box, they both work perfectly Can anyone give me some pointers (in
> > layman's terms, please) that may help me to fix this issue?
> >
> > R.
>
>

I was once told to install the printer river on both machine (does the
printer have Vista driver) My set up is the other way around - no problems)
--
Regards
Bob J


"Romane" wrote:

> (beating head on desk) Update.
>
> And just now, about five hours after last having the problem, I tried (yet
> one more time) to print from Notepad, and it went through *almost
> instantly*. Uh? Same from Windows Mail. Uh? Anyone have an explanation?
>
> R.
>
> "Romane" <> wrote in message
> news:eb9%...
> > Well, my Vista box seems to be improved. In general, the performance is
> > flying. The eye-candy works well, too. Installing the latest drivers from
> > Intel seem to have solved most of the issues, bar one which I discuss
> > somewhat further below. The beta version of the latest drivers from nVidia
> > look like they have fixed the issues that was having with earlier
> > versions. The network works without a hitch - I have this Vista box, an XP
> > Pro box, and a Linux box, and they are all quite happy to talk to each
> > other. The few software issues am still having may mostly need to be
> > addressed by the software developers, not Microsoft, and am following up
> > that area.
> >
> > Two issues looking for assistance on, however. So you have some idea what
> > you are looking at, system is Ultimate, nVidia 8800gts with 320Mb, 2Gb
> > memory, 2 x 320Gb hard drives (SATA), Dual Core 2 6600 @2.40GHz, Intel
> > D975XBX2 motherboard., all the latest hardware drivers from Intel and
> > nVidia.
> >
> > First one seems rather minor - what setting have I tripped to lose my
> > access to information on the Windows Experience Index. Access via 'Control
> > Panel / System and Maintenance / System / View amount of Ram and Processor
> > Speed', and I get something similar to where my index used to be detailed,
> > but missing the various component details, and no link to re-check the
> > index. 'System and Maintenance / System / Check your Windows Experience
> > Index base score' and I get an almost blank screen that says I can check
> > it, and when the last rating was done, but no links or other means of
> > checking.
> >
> > The other is more serious. The XP box also serves as my print server.
> > Vista seems to have a problem with this, but in an inconsistent manner. I
> > can print from most of my applications in Vista with only about a minute's
> > delay (still far too long, but if I must, I will live with it, albeit
> > impatiently), but what I will refer to as Windows native programs
> > (Notepad, WordPad etc) hang completely without the expected recovery I
> > have come to expect from Vista. After between 5 to 10 minutes, I get
> > impatient and kill the application off. It is only when I try to print
> > that the problem occurs - all applications seem to behave otherwise pretty
> > well normally. I suspect that it has something to do with the way the
> > Vista and XP boxes talk to each other about the process, but I have no
> > other problems in Network communications. I have tried uninstalling and
> > reinstalling the printers, to no avail. Reboots, also no joy. From the XP
> > box, they both work perfectly Can anyone give me some pointers (in
> > layman's terms, please) that may help me to fix this issue?
> >
> > R.
>
>

Aaaah. Bickies in tea (dunka). The first solution on the page gave me back
what I was looking for. It appears to have reverted to an earlier point,
however - had installed an external (USB) Digital TV receiver, redone the
index as it said I had new hardware, and now it again said I had new
hardware, but I haven't. However, all now hunky dory. Be damned if I know
why that little switch fell over - never played with area in Vista; too much
to learn about the rest of the system first.

As for the printer, with the fact that after a number of hours it worked
almost like lightening, that would suggest that Vista and XP had a little
time trying to negotiate the access, and finally came to an agreement. Will
be most frustrating if cannot find a way to speed that process up.

R.

"Bob J" <> wrote in message
news:5AB14AF1-2AD1-4F36-BE90-...
> 1St Prob - See if this applies -
> http://www.winhelponline.com/articles/152/1/
>
> 2nd Prob. - Still working on it!!!!!!!!!!
> --
> Regards
> Bob J
>
>
> "Romane" wrote:
>
>> (beating head on desk) Update.
>>
>> And just now, about five hours after last having the problem, I tried
>> (yet
>> one more time) to print from Notepad, and it went through *almost
>> instantly*. Uh? Same from Windows Mail. Uh? Anyone have an explanation?
>>
>> R.
>>
>> "Romane" <> wrote in message
>> news:eb9%...
>> > Well, my Vista box seems to be improved. In general, the performance is
>> > flying. The eye-candy works well, too. Installing the latest drivers
>> > from
>> > Intel seem to have solved most of the issues, bar one which I discuss
>> > somewhat further below. The beta version of the latest drivers from
>> > nVidia
>> > look like they have fixed the issues that was having with earlier
>> > versions. The network works without a hitch - I have this Vista box, an
>> > XP
>> > Pro box, and a Linux box, and they are all quite happy to talk to each
>> > other. The few software issues am still having may mostly need to be
>> > addressed by the software developers, not Microsoft, and am following
>> > up
>> > that area.
>> >
>> > Two issues looking for assistance on, however. So you have some idea
>> > what
>> > you are looking at, system is Ultimate, nVidia 8800gts with 320Mb, 2Gb
>> > memory, 2 x 320Gb hard drives (SATA), Dual Core 2 6600 @2.40GHz, Intel
>> > D975XBX2 motherboard., all the latest hardware drivers from Intel and
>> > nVidia.
>> >
>> > First one seems rather minor - what setting have I tripped to lose my
>> > access to information on the Windows Experience Index. Access via
>> > 'Control
>> > Panel / System and Maintenance / System / View amount of Ram and
>> > Processor
>> > Speed', and I get something similar to where my index used to be
>> > detailed,
>> > but missing the various component details, and no link to re-check the
>> > index. 'System and Maintenance / System / Check your Windows Experience
>> > Index base score' and I get an almost blank screen that says I can
>> > check
>> > it, and when the last rating was done, but no links or other means of
>> > checking.
>> >
>> > The other is more serious. The XP box also serves as my print server.
>> > Vista seems to have a problem with this, but in an inconsistent manner.
>> > I
>> > can print from most of my applications in Vista with only about a
>> > minute's
>> > delay (still far too long, but if I must, I will live with it, albeit
>> > impatiently), but what I will refer to as Windows native programs
>> > (Notepad, WordPad etc) hang completely without the expected recovery I
>> > have come to expect from Vista. After between 5 to 10 minutes, I get
>> > impatient and kill the application off. It is only when I try to print
>> > that the problem occurs - all applications seem to behave otherwise
>> > pretty
>> > well normally. I suspect that it has something to do with the way the
>> > Vista and XP boxes talk to each other about the process, but I have no
>> > other problems in Network communications. I have tried uninstalling and
>> > reinstalling the printers, to no avail. Reboots, also no joy. From the
>> > XP
>> > box, they both work perfectly Can anyone give me some pointers (in
>> > layman's terms, please) that may help me to fix this issue?
>> >
>> > R.
>>
>>

No, have not tried that yet - to be honest, had not even thought about it
due to other major priorities in using the beast. Allowed Vista to do its
own thing. Will try that when next get a few free moments.

R.

"Bob J" <> wrote in message
news:FE600C26-0294-4410-BF4D-...
>I was once told to install the printer river on both machine (does the
> printer have Vista driver) My set up is the other way around - no
> problems)
> --
> Regards
> Bob J
>
>
> "Romane" wrote:
>
>> (beating head on desk) Update.
>>
>> And just now, about five hours after last having the problem, I tried
>> (yet
>> one more time) to print from Notepad, and it went through *almost
>> instantly*. Uh? Same from Windows Mail. Uh? Anyone have an explanation?
>>
>> R.
>>
>> "Romane" <> wrote in message
>> news:eb9%...
>> > Well, my Vista box seems to be improved. In general, the performance is
>> > flying. The eye-candy works well, too. Installing the latest drivers
>> > from
>> > Intel seem to have solved most of the issues, bar one which I discuss
>> > somewhat further below. The beta version of the latest drivers from
>> > nVidia
>> > look like they have fixed the issues that was having with earlier
>> > versions. The network works without a hitch - I have this Vista box, an
>> > XP
>> > Pro box, and a Linux box, and they are all quite happy to talk to each
>> > other. The few software issues am still having may mostly need to be
>> > addressed by the software developers, not Microsoft, and am following
>> > up
>> > that area.
>> >
>> > Two issues looking for assistance on, however. So you have some idea
>> > what
>> > you are looking at, system is Ultimate, nVidia 8800gts with 320Mb, 2Gb
>> > memory, 2 x 320Gb hard drives (SATA), Dual Core 2 6600 @2.40GHz, Intel
>> > D975XBX2 motherboard., all the latest hardware drivers from Intel and
>> > nVidia.
>> >
>> > First one seems rather minor - what setting have I tripped to lose my
>> > access to information on the Windows Experience Index. Access via
>> > 'Control
>> > Panel / System and Maintenance / System / View amount of Ram and
>> > Processor
>> > Speed', and I get something similar to where my index used to be
>> > detailed,
>> > but missing the various component details, and no link to re-check the
>> > index. 'System and Maintenance / System / Check your Windows Experience
>> > Index base score' and I get an almost blank screen that says I can
>> > check
>> > it, and when the last rating was done, but no links or other means of
>> > checking.
>> >
>> > The other is more serious. The XP box also serves as my print server.
>> > Vista seems to have a problem with this, but in an inconsistent manner.
>> > I
>> > can print from most of my applications in Vista with only about a
>> > minute's
>> > delay (still far too long, but if I must, I will live with it, albeit
>> > impatiently), but what I will refer to as Windows native programs
>> > (Notepad, WordPad etc) hang completely without the expected recovery I
>> > have come to expect from Vista. After between 5 to 10 minutes, I get
>> > impatient and kill the application off. It is only when I try to print
>> > that the problem occurs - all applications seem to behave otherwise
>> > pretty
>> > well normally. I suspect that it has something to do with the way the
>> > Vista and XP boxes talk to each other about the process, but I have no
>> > other problems in Network communications. I have tried uninstalling and
>> > reinstalling the printers, to no avail. Reboots, also no joy. From the
>> > XP
>> > box, they both work perfectly Can anyone give me some pointers (in
>> > layman's terms, please) that may help me to fix this issue?
>> >
>> > R.
>>
>>