poss spam emails

My son and I have been getting quite a lot of emails from a company in China
and they seem to be using his name but I do not think that they are sending
them from his computer.
I tried to find the source of the messages and get this:- Unable to
download GetMessageSource.aspx from sn130w.sntl30.mail.live.com
Does anyone know how to trace this and then get our ISPs to stop it
altogether?
Maybe hotmail or live mail should be stopping it.
Thank you

Tracing the true source of a spam email requires a very sophisticated analysis.
I delegate that chore to SpamCop: http://spamcop.net.

If the From address is always the same, you can add it to Blocked Senders.
If not, find some other aspect that those emails have in common, the
create a message rule (Tools, Message Rules, Mail...).

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
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"Stewart" wrote in message news:61B931D4-8C7D-40B0-B194-...

My son and I have been getting quite a lot of emails from a company in China
and they seem to be using his name but I do not think that they are sending
them from his computer.
I tried to find the source of the messages and get this:- Unable to
download GetMessageSource.aspx from sn130w.sntl30.mail.live.com
Does anyone know how to trace this and then get our ISPs to stop it
altogether?
Maybe hotmail or live mail should be stopping it.
Thank you

Thank you Gary , he can do that OK but my problem is slightly different;
emails are coming in (they get marked as spam) supposedly from my son; they
have his correct email address, lets say <> and while I
could block these I would also block out any that did come from him.
He had this same problem about 4 years ago and changed both his hotmail
account and his supanet account.
I can pick up the string of letters that identify the incoming emails but I
do not think that WLM or hotmail allow me to use these for blocking.
Thanks again.



"Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Tracing the true source of a spam email requires a very sophisticated
> analysis.
> I delegate that chore to SpamCop: http://spamcop.net.
>
> If the From address is always the same, you can add it to Blocked Senders.
> If not, find some other aspect that those emails have in common, the
> create a message rule (Tools, Message Rules, Mail...).
>
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Stewart" wrote in message
> news:61B931D4-8C7D-40B0-B194-...
>
> My son and I have been getting quite a lot of emails from a company in
> China
> and they seem to be using his name but I do not think that they are
> sending
> them from his computer.
> I tried to find the source of the messages and get this:- Unable to
> download GetMessageSource.aspx from sn130w.sntl30.mail.live.com
> Does anyone know how to trace this and then get our ISPs to stop it
> altogether?
> Maybe hotmail or live mail should be stopping it.
> Thank you

Thanks again; my server is the post office and I understand they use POP for
incoming mail.



"Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Is your Hotmail account in Windows Live Mail set up using the HTTP
> protocol
> or the POP protocol? With the former, filtering can only be done at the
> server,
> with some minimal user blocking options. With the POP protocol you can use
> all of Windows Live Mail's message rules, such as filtering on specific
> words
> in the Subject line or message body.
>
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Stewart" wrote in message news:...
>
> Thank you Gary , he can do that OK but my problem is slightly different;
> emails are coming in (they get marked as spam) supposedly from my son;
> they
> have his correct email address, lets say <> and while I
> could block these I would also block out any that did come from him.
> He had this same problem about 4 years ago and changed both his hotmail
> account and his supanet account.
> I can pick up the string of letters that identify the incoming emails but
> I
> do not think that WLM or hotmail allow me to use these for blocking.
> Thanks again.
>
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Tracing the true source of a spam email requires a very sophisticated
>> analysis.
>> I delegate that chore to SpamCop: http://spamcop.net.
>>
>> If the From address is always the same, you can add it to Blocked
>> Senders.
>> If not, find some other aspect that those emails have in common, the
>> create a message rule (Tools, Message Rules, Mail...).
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "Stewart" wrote in message
>> news:61B931D4-8C7D-40B0-B194-...
>>
>> My son and I have been getting quite a lot of emails from a company in
>> China
>> and they seem to be using his name but I do not think that they are
>> sending
>> them from his computer.
>> I tried to find the source of the messages and get this:- Unable to
>> download GetMessageSource.aspx from sn130w.sntl30.mail.live.com
>> Does anyone know how to trace this and then get our ISPs to stop it
>> altogether?
>> Maybe hotmail or live mail should be stopping it.
>> Thank you
>

> It's weird that you would get spam from your son's email address.


Not really. E.g. the IP address he has may have been used by a spammer or
the range of IP addresses temporarily blacklisted, etc. The same thing
happens sometimes to my brother's messages to our mother. It can show up
in the headers where the undesirable tagging starts, e.g. the routing the
messages take can make a difference too.


FYI

Robert Aldwinckle
---

It is not at all clear to me what "my server is the post office" means.
I asked which protocol. You find that out by going to Tools, Accounts,
select that account, Properties, Servers. Look for a line near the top
of that screen that says "My incoming server is a ______ server."

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
------------------------------------------------------

"Stewart" wrote in message news:...

Thanks again; my server is the post office and I understand they use POP for
incoming mail.


"Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Is your Hotmail account in Windows Live Mail set up using the HTTP protocol
> or the POP protocol? With the former, filtering can only be done at the server,
> with some minimal user blocking options. With the POP protocol you can use
> all of Windows Live Mail's message rules, such as filtering on specific words
> in the Subject line or message body.
>
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Stewart" wrote in message news:...
>
> Thank you Gary , he can do that OK but my problem is slightly different;
> emails are coming in (they get marked as spam) supposedly from my son; they
> have his correct email address, lets say <> and while I
> could block these I would also block out any that did come from him.
> He had this same problem about 4 years ago and changed both his hotmail
> account and his supanet account.
> I can pick up the string of letters that identify the incoming emails but I
> do not think that WLM or hotmail allow me to use these for blocking.
> Thanks again.
>
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Tracing the true source of a spam email requires a very sophisticated analysis.
>> I delegate that chore to SpamCop: http://spamcop.net.
>>
>> If the From address is always the same, you can add it to Blocked Senders.
>> If not, find some other aspect that those emails have in common, the
>> create a message rule (Tools, Message Rules, Mail...).
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "Stewart" wrote in message news:61B931D4-8C7D-40B0-B194-...
>>
>> My son and I have been getting quite a lot of emails from a company in China
>> and they seem to be using his name but I do not think that they are sending
>> them from his computer.
>> I tried to find the source of the messages and get this:- Unable to
>> download GetMessageSource.aspx from sn130w.sntl30.mail.live.com
>> Does anyone know how to trace this and then get our ISPs to stop it
>> altogether?
>> Maybe hotmail or live mail should be stopping it.
>> Thank you
>

Sorry Gary but I am making no progress. I can find tools etc as you say in
my Outlook 2007 mail account but in WLM and Hotmail I cannot find any
reference to "tools, accounts etc,". If I go into tools there I can only
find a reference to contacts.
I know that my server works with POP3 and SMTP.
I now have Hotmail. WLM and Outlook delivering my son's emails (supposed as
well as genuine) into the junk folder and that should be safe enough.
Thanks again for all the help.



"Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
news:...
> It is not at all clear to me what "my server is the post office" means.
> I asked which protocol. You find that out by going to Tools, Accounts,
> select that account, Properties, Servers. Look for a line near the top
> of that screen that says "My incoming server is a ______ server."
>
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Stewart" wrote in message news:...
>
> Thanks again; my server is the post office and I understand they use POP
> for
> incoming mail.
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Is your Hotmail account in Windows Live Mail set up using the HTTP
>> protocol
>> or the POP protocol? With the former, filtering can only be done at the
>> server,
>> with some minimal user blocking options. With the POP protocol you can
>> use
>> all of Windows Live Mail's message rules, such as filtering on specific
>> words
>> in the Subject line or message body.
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "Stewart" wrote in message news:...
>>
>> Thank you Gary , he can do that OK but my problem is slightly different;
>> emails are coming in (they get marked as spam) supposedly from my son;
>> they
>> have his correct email address, lets say <> and while I
>> could block these I would also block out any that did come from him.
>> He had this same problem about 4 years ago and changed both his hotmail
>> account and his supanet account.
>> I can pick up the string of letters that identify the incoming emails but
>> I
>> do not think that WLM or hotmail allow me to use these for blocking.
>> Thanks again.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Tracing the true source of a spam email requires a very sophisticated
>>> analysis.
>>> I delegate that chore to SpamCop: http://spamcop.net.
>>>
>>> If the From address is always the same, you can add it to Blocked
>>> Senders.
>>> If not, find some other aspect that those emails have in common, the
>>> create a message rule (Tools, Message Rules, Mail...).
>>>
>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> "Stewart" wrote in message
>>> news:61B931D4-8C7D-40B0-B194-...
>>>
>>> My son and I have been getting quite a lot of emails from a company in
>>> China
>>> and they seem to be using his name but I do not think that they are
>>> sending
>>> them from his computer.
>>> I tried to find the source of the messages and get this:- Unable to
>>> download GetMessageSource.aspx from sn130w.sntl30.mail.live.com
>>> Does anyone know how to trace this and then get our ISPs to stop it
>>> altogether?
>>> Maybe hotmail or live mail should be stopping it.
>>> Thank you
>>
>

My response applied only to Windows Live Mail. If you don't see the
menu bar (which has Tools on it) press the Alt key first.
You can also use the Menus shortcut to select a permanent display
of the menu bar (at the loss of some screen real estate).

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
------------------------------------------------------

"Stewart" wrote in message news:#aR$...

Sorry Gary but I am making no progress. I can find tools etc as you say in
my Outlook 2007 mail account but in WLM and Hotmail I cannot find any
reference to "tools, accounts etc,". If I go into tools there I can only
find a reference to contacts.
I know that my server works with POP3 and SMTP.
I now have Hotmail. WLM and Outlook delivering my son's emails (supposed as
well as genuine) into the junk folder and that should be safe enough.
Thanks again for all the help.



"Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
news:...
> It is not at all clear to me what "my server is the post office" means.
> I asked which protocol. You find that out by going to Tools, Accounts,
> select that account, Properties, Servers. Look for a line near the top
> of that screen that says "My incoming server is a ______ server."
>
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Stewart" wrote in message news:...
>
> Thanks again; my server is the post office and I understand they use POP for
> incoming mail.
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Is your Hotmail account in Windows Live Mail set up using the HTTP protocol
>> or the POP protocol? With the former, filtering can only be done at the server,
>> with some minimal user blocking options. With the POP protocol you can use
>> all of Windows Live Mail's message rules, such as filtering on specific words
>> in the Subject line or message body.
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "Stewart" wrote in message news:...
>>
>> Thank you Gary , he can do that OK but my problem is slightly different;
>> emails are coming in (they get marked as spam) supposedly from my son; they
>> have his correct email address, lets say <> and while I
>> could block these I would also block out any that did come from him.
>> He had this same problem about 4 years ago and changed both his hotmail
>> account and his supanet account.
>> I can pick up the string of letters that identify the incoming emails but I
>> do not think that WLM or hotmail allow me to use these for blocking.
>> Thanks again.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Tracing the true source of a spam email requires a very sophisticated analysis.
>>> I delegate that chore to SpamCop: http://spamcop.net.
>>>
>>> If the From address is always the same, you can add it to Blocked Senders.
>>> If not, find some other aspect that those emails have in common, the
>>> create a message rule (Tools, Message Rules, Mail...).
>>>
>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> "Stewart" wrote in message news:61B931D4-8C7D-40B0-B194-...
>>>
>>> My son and I have been getting quite a lot of emails from a company in China
>>> and they seem to be using his name but I do not think that they are sending
>>> them from his computer.
>>> I tried to find the source of the messages and get this:- Unable to
>>> download GetMessageSource.aspx from sn130w.sntl30.mail.live.com
>>> Does anyone know how to trace this and then get our ISPs to stop it
>>> altogether?
>>> Maybe hotmail or live mail should be stopping it.
>>> Thank you
>>
>

Gary, thanks again; sorry for the delay but this newsgroup dropped from
msnews.microsoft.com and I have just found it again.
By using the alt key as you say I can now see that I am getting via HTTP.


"Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
news:...
> My response applied only to Windows Live Mail. If you don't see the
> menu bar (which has Tools on it) press the Alt key first.
> You can also use the Menus shortcut to select a permanent display
> of the menu bar (at the loss of some screen real estate).
>
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> ------------------------------------------------------

<snip>
<snip>

That means you can only use the blocking/filtering available on the
Hotmail website. As I said in my first reply, those features are very
minimal, and they don't include being able to filter on specific words.

Incidentally, Microsoft no longer supports this newsgroup.
Future requests for help with Windows Live Mail should be posted
to the Windows Live Mail forum:
http://www.windowslivehelp.com/forums.aspx?productid=15

Gary VanderMolen

"Stewart" wrote in message news:i6oqpd$jql$...

Gary, thanks again; sorry for the delay but this newsgroup dropped from
msnews.microsoft.com and I have just found it again.
By using the alt key as you say I can now see that I am getting via HTTP.


"Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
news:...
> My response applied only to Windows Live Mail. If you don't see the
> menu bar (which has Tools on it) press the Alt key first.
> You can also use the Menus shortcut to select a permanent display
> of the menu bar (at the loss of some screen real estate).
>
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> ------------------------------------------------------

<snip>
<snip>